2017 Draft Day 2 - Rounds 2 and 3

K Major · 04-28-2017, 08:54 AM

Yet some posters want to stop the OSU draft train connection

...

Urban Meyer has been recruiting studs at the next level for years. Lattimore will become a play maker for the Saints.

rezburna · 04-28-2017, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yet some posters want to stop the OSU draft train connection ...

Urban Meyer has been recruiting studs at the next level for years. Lattimore will become a play maker for the Saints.

The Ohio State players we've drafted have proven to be pretty damn good thus far. Thomas more than Bell, but I wouldn't call Bell a bad pick. I'm feeling the Ohio State connection.

hagan714 · 04-28-2017, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

The Ohio State players we've drafted have proven to be pretty damn good thus far. Thomas more than Bell, but I wouldn't call Bell a bad pick. I'm feeling the Ohio State connection.

I only say it because of the lack of love for LSU players

rezburna · 04-28-2017, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I only say it because of the lack of love for LSU players

I don't know why Payton kept passing up on all that talent LSU puts out.

Seer1 · 04-28-2017, 09:07 AM

I could give a crap where they're from. I only care where they're goin'.

Danno · 04-28-2017, 09:15 AM

Just about every expert claimed this draft was 3 or 4 rounds deep with good quality pass rush prospects.
I'm not gonna panic just because we didn't draft in in the 1st round.

We got the #1 CB, and the #1 OT. Thats a good day.

burningmetal · 04-28-2017, 09:17 AM

Urban Meyer isn't the only coach or program who puts out players. There are other top programs who put out just as many, and more, and with higher rates of pro success than Ohio State. I don't have hate for their players. Heck, there have been players I've wanted from there.

It just gets weird when better prospects are often passed on to feed the seeming infatuation of getting OSU players. I like Lattimore a lot. But Hassan Reddick would have been dymamite, and even Reuben Foster, despite my concerns of future failed drug tests (I know it isn't confirmed that his diluted sample was intentional, but I doubt it wasn't).

It is what it is, though. At least they got a good player.

|Mitch| · 04-28-2017, 09:19 AM

What about this guy with one of our picks today:

Derek Rivers, DE/OLB, Youngstown State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 248. Arm: 32.75.
40 Time: 4.61.
Projected Round (2017): 2-4.
4/26/17: Rivers ran fast at the combine and showed some athleticism. As a senior, he totaled 58 tackles with 19.5 tackles for a loss, 14 sacks, one forced fumble and one pass batted. Rivers showed his pass-rush skills with eight sacks as a junior and 13 as a sophomore. He could end up being a second-day pick.

rezburna · 04-28-2017, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Urban Meyer isn't the only coach or program who puts out players. There are other top programs who put out just as many, and more, and with higher rates of pro success than Ohio State. I don't have hate for their players. Heck, there have been players I've wanted from there.

It just gets weird when better prospects are often passed on to feed the seeming infatuation of getting OSU players. I like Lattimore a lot. But Hassan Reddick would have been dymamite, and even Reuben Foster, despite my concerns of future failed drug tests (I know it isn't confirmed that his diluted sample was intentional, but I doubt it wasn't).

It is what it is, though. At least they got a good player.

I don't think that was the case with Lattimore. He was projected as high as 5th overall to the Titans. Many had him rated as one of the top 5 players in this entire draft class. Most people didn't even expect him to fall to us. I think another gift fell to us just like Sheldon Rankins, who didn't have injury issues, but ended up injured anyway.

burningmetal · 04-28-2017, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I don't think that was the case with Lattimore. He was projected as high as 5th overall to the Titans. Many had him rated as one of the top 5 players in this entire draft class. Most people didn't even expect him to fall to us. I think another gift fell to us just like Sheldon Rankins, who didn't have injury issues, but ended up injured anyway.

I'm well aware of how highly projected Lattimore was, and I have said at every mention that I like him. I just think there were dynamic play makers, up front, who would seem to be a higher priority. Best player available is always the cop out response, I know, but if we're honest with ourselves we should have learned by now that the back end of your defense can only do so much if they have to cover all day, or if we are getting gashed in the run game.

We have some really good D-linemen, but we lack enough true pass rushers, and we really are hurting for depth up front.

All that said, again, I like Lattimore and think he'll be very good.

04-28-2017, 08:58 AM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,010	Re: Day 2: Originally Posted by K Major Yet some posters want to stop the OSU draft train connection ... Urban Meyer has been recruiting studs at the next level for years. Lattimore will become a play maker for the Saints. The Ohio State players we've drafted have proven to be pretty damn good thus far. Thomas more than Bell, but I wouldn't call Bell a bad pick. I'm feeling the Ohio State connection.

04-28-2017, 09:04 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Day 2: Originally Posted by rezburna The Ohio State players we've drafted have proven to be pretty damn good thus far. Thomas more than Bell, but I wouldn't call Bell a bad pick. I'm feeling the Ohio State connection. I only say it because of the lack of love for LSU players

04-28-2017, 09:06 AM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,010	Re: Day 2: Originally Posted by hagan714 I only say it because of the lack of love for LSU players I don't know why Payton kept passing up on all that talent LSU puts out.

04-28-2017, 09:07 AM	#5
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04-28-2017, 09:15 AM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Day 2: Just about every expert claimed this draft was 3 or 4 rounds deep with good quality pass rush prospects. I'm not gonna panic just because we didn't draft in in the 1st round. We got the #1 CB, and the #1 OT. Thats a good day. jnormand, AsylumGuido and Seer1 like this.

04-28-2017, 08:54 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,769 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Day 2: Yet some posters want to stop the OSU draft train connection ... Urban Meyer has been recruiting studs at the next level for years. Lattimore will become a play maker for the Saints. \|Mitch\| and rezburna like this.

04-28-2017, 09:17 AM	#7
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Day 2: Urban Meyer isn't the only coach or program who puts out players. There are other top programs who put out just as many, and more, and with higher rates of pro success than Ohio State. I don't have hate for their players. Heck, there have been players I've wanted from there. It just gets weird when better prospects are often passed on to feed the seeming infatuation of getting OSU players. I like Lattimore a lot. But Hassan Reddick would have been dymamite, and even Reuben Foster, despite my concerns of future failed drug tests (I know it isn't confirmed that his diluted sample was intentional, but I doubt it wasn't). It is what it is, though. At least they got a good player.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

04-28-2017, 09:19 AM	#8
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Day 2: What about this guy with one of our picks today: Derek Rivers, DE/OLB, Youngstown State Height: 6-4. Weight: 248. Arm: 32.75. 40 Time: 4.61. Projected Round (2017): 2-4. 4/26/17: Rivers ran fast at the combine and showed some athleticism. As a senior, he totaled 58 tackles with 19.5 tackles for a loss, 14 sacks, one forced fumble and one pass batted. Rivers showed his pass-rush skills with eight sacks as a junior and 13 as a sophomore. He could end up being a second-day pick. Danno and K Major like this.

04-28-2017, 09:45 AM	#9
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,010	Re: Day 2: Originally Posted by burningmetal Urban Meyer isn't the only coach or program who puts out players. There are other top programs who put out just as many, and more, and with higher rates of pro success than Ohio State. I don't have hate for their players. Heck, there have been players I've wanted from there. It just gets weird when better prospects are often passed on to feed the seeming infatuation of getting OSU players. I like Lattimore a lot. But Hassan Reddick would have been dymamite, and even Reuben Foster, despite my concerns of future failed drug tests (I know it isn't confirmed that his diluted sample was intentional, but I doubt it wasn't). It is what it is, though. At least they got a good player. I don't think that was the case with Lattimore. He was projected as high as 5th overall to the Titans. Many had him rated as one of the top 5 players in this entire draft class. Most people didn't even expect him to fall to us. I think another gift fell to us just like Sheldon Rankins, who didn't have injury issues, but ended up injured anyway.

04-28-2017, 09:57 AM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Day 2: Originally Posted by rezburna I don't think that was the case with Lattimore. He was projected as high as 5th overall to the Titans. Many had him rated as one of the top 5 players in this entire draft class. Most people didn't even expect him to fall to us. I think another gift fell to us just like Sheldon Rankins, who didn't have injury issues, but ended up injured anyway. I'm well aware of how highly projected Lattimore was, and I have said at every mention that I like him. I just think there were dynamic play makers, up front, who would seem to be a higher priority. Best player available is always the cop out response, I know, but if we're honest with ourselves we should have learned by now that the back end of your defense can only do so much if they have to cover all day, or if we are getting gashed in the run game. We have some really good D-linemen, but we lack enough true pass rushers, and we really are hurting for depth up front. All that said, again, I like Lattimore and think he'll be very good.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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