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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre He was a force vs Conference USA opponents... The big knock is his short arms ; many scouts and some former GMs have basically said the same thing that if Trey had longer arms, he'd been ...

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Old 04-29-2017, 11:34 AM   #1
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
He was a force vs Conference USA opponents...

The big knock is his short arms; many scouts and some former GMs have basically said the same thing that if Trey had longer arms, he'd been second round pick, possible even a first...

With his short arms, he's expected to struggled against long arm OTs (like Zach Strief)...
I'll just leave it here ...

Trey Hendrickson arm length: 32"

Derek Barnett arm length: 32 1/8"

If Trey develops proper technique, he will create space and openings to beat his man on a consistent basis.

Coach em up (see new D line coach Ryan Nielsen).
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Old 04-29-2017, 11:37 AM   #2
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I'll just leave it here ...

Trey Hendrickson arm length: 32"

Derek Barnett arm length: 32 1/8"
Some things just don't make sense huh K? Now that I think about it, the tyrannosaurus had short arms too.
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Old 04-29-2017, 11:51 AM   #3
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Some things just don't make sense huh K? Now that I think about it, the tyrannosaurus had short arms too.
I'm just turning a negative into a positive. Trey will benefit by having a good D line coach to help him with his craft. I've already read posters compare Trey to Tull (which is unfair). Tull didn't even have a pass rushing technique. If he had no speed, he wouldn't have won any one on one battles.

I think Mitch or Hagan uploaded a tape on new D line hire Nielsen where he was coaching "one arm is longer than two", which means to engage in with a single arm and body and not allow offensive lineman to get both hands inside the shoulder pad/chest area. Basic technique and a huge part of becoming an effective pass rusher.

Coach em up to their potential & turn a weakness into strength .
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I'm just turning a negative into a positive. Trey will benefit by having a good D line coach to help him with his craft. I've already read posters compare Trey to Tull (which is unfair). Tull didn't even have a pass rushing technique. If he had no speed, he wouldn't have won any one on one battles.

I think Mitch or Hagan uploaded a tape on new D line hire Nielsen where he was coaching "one arm is longer than two", which means to engage in with a single arm and body and not allow offensive lineman to get both hands inside the shoulder pad/chest area. Basic technique and a huge part of becoming an effective pass rusher.

Coach em up to their potential & turn a weakness into strength .
I didn't really compare him to Tull, just said that Tull had a high number of sacks just like Hendrickson so I hope he turns out better.

I'm warming up to the picks the more I look into it, just wish we had solidifed the pass rush earlier.
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Old 04-29-2017, 12:09 PM   #5
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I didn't really compare him to Tull, just said that Tull had a high number of sacks just like Hendrickson so I hope he turns out better.

I'm warming up to the picks the more I look into it, just wish we had solidifed the pass rush earlier.
Lol, naw I wasn't referring to you Diz. This knuckle head on Nola.com was making a weak argument last night after the pick.

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Lol, naw I wasn't referring to you Diz. This knuckle head on Nola.com was making a weak argument last night after the pick.

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Haha no worries dude, Nola.com have plenty of knuckle heads posting on their fan portion.

Let's hope we find a couple more gems in UDFA.
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I didn't really compare him to Tull, just said that Tull had a high number of sacks just like Hendrickson so I hope he turns out better.

I'm warming up to the picks the more I look into it, just wish we had solidifed the pass rush earlier.
Solidifying the pass rush earlier would have cost us a value pick. Which one of them would we sacrifice? As has been pointed out several times, we may have more than we realize already on the roster.
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Solidifying the pass rush earlier would have cost us a value pick. Which one of them would we sacrifice? As has been pointed out several times, we may have more than we realize already on the roster.
Personally, I would have replaced Ramczyk for a pass rusher. I certainly hope we have some on the roster, as it will be 2014-2016 all over again if not.
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Personally, I would have replaced Ramczyk for a pass rusher. I certainly hope we have some on the roster, as it will be 2014-2016 all over again if not.
I have a feeling that Ramcyzk with his athleticism beats out Strief... Now we hope that we have an adequate pass rusher already on the roster. I feel Okafor may surprise
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Personally, I would have replaced Ramczyk for a pass rusher. I certainly hope we have some on the roster, as it will be 2014-2016 all over again if not.
So you are saying none of the many other improvements to the defense will have any positive effect whatsoever? One pass rusher that you wanted makes all the difference in the world? For all you know Ramczyk will contribute more to the 2017 success than would a pass rusher taken in the same spot.
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