Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ...

05-07-2017, 11:20 AM

Somebody teach Breaux how to defend the Rub Route near the endzone and we'll allow a lot less TD's.

In all seriousness though, the secondary and Front 7 have to work in tandem. It wasn't all one positional groups fault, it was always a mixture.

Sometimes the DB's had great coverage but the D line gave the QB 5+ seconds to pass.

Sometimes the D line got good pressure but the DB's lost their men immediatedly off the line.

They have to learn to work as a group, 2009's D was filled with unwanted players and players that weren't that great, but they played hard for each other every snap and had a mindset that they would out work every offense.

Rugby Saint II · 05-07-2017, 04:01 PM

Give me a tenacious defense......we'll see more turn overs and shorter field position for Drew.

SmashMouth · 05-07-2017, 04:10 PM

halloween 65 · 05-07-2017, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Give me a tenacious defense......we'll see more turn overs and shorter field position for Drew.

Yes a tenacious D would be nice!! I don't think we are near that though. We might get into the 22 to 25 range this season if we don't I hope they ax Allens head because it would be 2 1/2 years without showing any improvement at all. My eyes are all on him to make or break the season.

K Major · 05-07-2017, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Yes a tenacious D would be nice!! I don't think we are near that though. We might get into the 22 to 25 range this season if we don't I hope they ax Allens head because it would be 2 1/2 years without showing any improvement at all.

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Why all the doom and gloom? It will be a tough road to start the season no doubt, but why not wait until we see where we are as a team before calling for DA's job? The defense kept us in games last year that Special Teams or Offense gave away. Namely @ Carolina, Denver, Kansas City, the Giants.

If you couldn't see a progression in the overall defense, then I don't know what to tell you.

halloween 65 · 05-07-2017, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

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Why all the doom and gloom? It will be a tough road to start the season no doubt, but why not wait until we see where we are as a team before calling for DA's job? The defense kept us in games last year that Special Teams or Offense gave away. Namely @ Carolina, Denver, Kansas City, the Giants.

If you couldn't see a progression in the overall defense, then I don't know what to tell you.

Could be I'm tired of fielding pathetic D's. I shouldn't have to even list the years, you should know them. And as far as Allen I'm sticking to my guns and still say if it wasn't for Gregg Williams and Sharper he would not even be on another teams radar as a DC. Payton surely has stacked the deck for this ( friend, puppet) DC, he better do good!!

K Major · 05-07-2017, 09:10 PM

Whatever sinking feeling you might have about Dennis it has to be offset by the fact that there's no Bill Johnson or Vitt around anymore.

WillMacKenzie · 05-07-2017, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Whatever sinking feeling you might have about Dennis it has to be offset by the fact that there's no Bill Johnson or Vitt around anymore.

And then add Mike Nolan. I think people are underestimating the quality of LB coach we have

05-07-2017, 11:20 AM	#41
Threaded by dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838 Rating: (0 votes - average) Somebody teach Breaux how to defend the Rub Route near the endzone and we'll allow a lot less TD's. In all seriousness though, the secondary and Front 7 have to work in tandem. It wasn't all one positional groups fault, it was always a mixture. Sometimes the DB's had great coverage but the D line gave the QB 5+ seconds to pass. Sometimes the D line got good pressure but the DB's lost their men immediatedly off the line. They have to learn to work as a group, 2009's D was filled with unwanted players and players that weren't that great, but they played hard for each other every snap and had a mindset that they would out work every offense.
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05-07-2017, 04:01 PM	#42
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,763	Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ... Give me a tenacious defense......we'll see more turn overs and shorter field position for Drew. halloween 65 likes this.

05-07-2017, 04:10 PM	#43
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,115 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ... AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.

05-07-2017, 04:26 PM	#44
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ... Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Give me a tenacious defense......we'll see more turn overs and shorter field position for Drew. Yes a tenacious D would be nice!! I don't think we are near that though. We might get into the 22 to 25 range this season if we don't I hope they ax Allens head because it would be 2 1/2 years without showing any improvement at all. My eyes are all on him to make or break the season.

05-07-2017, 08:00 PM	#45
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,068 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ... Originally Posted by halloween 65 Yes a tenacious D would be nice!! I don't think we are near that though. We might get into the 22 to 25 range this season if we don't I hope they ax Allens head because it would be 2 1/2 years without showing any improvement at all. ? Why all the doom and gloom? It will be a tough road to start the season no doubt, but why not wait until we see where we are as a team before calling for DA's job? The defense kept us in games last year that Special Teams or Offense gave away. Namely @ Carolina, Denver, Kansas City, the Giants. If you couldn't see a progression in the overall defense, then I don't know what to tell you. WillMacKenzie likes this.

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05-07-2017, 08:55 PM	#46
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ... Originally Posted by K Major ? Why all the doom and gloom? It will be a tough road to start the season no doubt, but why not wait until we see where we are as a team before calling for DA's job? The defense kept us in games last year that Special Teams or Offense gave away. Namely @ Carolina, Denver, Kansas City, the Giants. If you couldn't see a progression in the overall defense, then I don't know what to tell you. Could be I'm tired of fielding pathetic D's. I shouldn't have to even list the years, you should know them. And as far as Allen I'm sticking to my guns and still say if it wasn't for Gregg Williams and Sharper he would not even be on another teams radar as a DC. Payton surely has stacked the deck for this ( friend, puppet) DC, he better do good!!

05-07-2017, 09:10 PM	#47
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,068 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ... Whatever sinking feeling you might have about Dennis it has to be offset by the fact that there's no Bill Johnson or Vitt around anymore.

05-07-2017, 09:29 PM	#48
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Underhill: If you're miffed Saints didn't draft big-name pass rusher, consider this ... Originally Posted by K Major Whatever sinking feeling you might have about Dennis it has to be offset by the fact that there's no Bill Johnson or Vitt around anymore. And then add Mike Nolan. I think people are underestimating the quality of LB coach we have K Major likes this.