Thoughts on our WR corp

jjasso007 · 05-02-2017, 03:34 PM

With the loss of Brandin Cooks, I, personally, was hoping to get a WR around the 3rd round or so to fill that void. Someone who produced at the college level and could come in and contribute immediately. After Michael Thomas and WIllie Snead, our receivers are very lackluster. Brandon Coleman is still inconsistent and never maximizes his size and height advantage. Ted Ginn is known for dropping passes and inconsistency. Now, we all know Drew makes receivers better, but Coleman is still Coleman and that isn't going to change. At TE, Fleener was inconsistent also, and our other TEs are backups. Hopefully the running game being improved, with a stronger offensive line, can open up more for less talented receivers like Coleman and Ginn, but, overall, I feel our WR corp has regressed, as a whole, this offseason. What are your thoughts?

hagan714 · 05-02-2017, 04:00 PM

It is what it is and Drew will have to make the most of what he has once again.

jnormand · 05-02-2017, 04:01 PM

While I agree that the WR group isn't as talented with the loss of Cooks, I also believe the offense will be just as good. I expect to see a lot more play action type throws than we've seen in the last couple seasons. I think that's the heart of it all.

That said, Michael Thomas and Willie Snead provide a very good 1-2 punch. Coleman and some other receivers that have been buried on the depth chart will get a chance to show what they've got.

Sean Payton likes his toys. Everyone knows that. He's an offensive minded coach and enjoys deploying his high powered offensive aerial attack. There's no way he traded Cooks without having a plan in place or an idea of who is going to step up next.

He's done it for years. The offense will still be firing on all cylinders.

WillSaints81 · 05-02-2017, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

While I agree that the WR group isn't as talented with the loss of Cooks, I also believe the offense will be just as good. I expect to see a lot more play action type throws than we've seen in the last couple seasons. I think that's the heart of it all.

That said, Michael Thomas and Willie Snead provide a very good 1-2 punch. Coleman and some other receivers that have been buried on the depth chart will get a chance to show what they've got.

Sean Payton likes his toys. Everyone knows that. He's an offensive minded coach and enjoys deploying his high powered offensive aerial attack. There's no way he traded Cooks without having a plan in place or an idea of who is going to step up next.

He's done it for years. The offense will still be firing on all cylinders.

He has not always had a plan in place. Ginn and Coleman are going to be under microscopes in third down and clutch situations. and do we really know what Payton's gameplan is? People assume this is gonna happen but Payton has not ever gone through with what people assumed.

Beastmode · 05-02-2017, 04:04 PM

We have two strong WR's. A lot of teams don't even have one. Thomas was also a rookie. Somebody else will emerge in PS. Maybe Travin Dural or one of the others we stashed. Ginn is likely not going to help that much but you never know.

K Major · 07-03-2017, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

We have two strong WR's. A lot of teams don't even have one. Thomas was also a rookie. Somebody else will emerge in PS. Maybe Travin Dural or one of the others we stashed. Ginn is likely not going to help that much but you never know.

I had to bring this thread back to life. NFL network featured the Saints passing attack last week and analysts mentioned how TG Jr could easily get off against bump/run and blocks downfield in 2016. Cooks was marginal at best in either department. I just find it hard to believe that some think Ted won't be able to help this ball club in this offense.

He's also dangerous on special teams (kick off/punt returns).

saintsfan1976 · 05-02-2017, 07:44 PM

You left out 3 tight ends, 2 rbs and a fullback. Those positions catch more in Payton's offense than most.

Danno · 05-02-2017, 08:05 PM

Ginn and Kamara will fill that void nicely

44Champs · 05-02-2017, 08:39 PM

Another thing to think about - I think our offensive line is going to be one of the best in the league this year. We've got two new stud players with Warford and Ramczyk, and we'll also get back a healthy Armstead. What that means is that Brees will have more time in the pocket and not have to rush his throws as much as he's had to in the past two years. This will help our receivers tremendously.

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AllSaints · 05-02-2017, 08:42 PM

Curtis Johnson is back.... im not worried....

05-02-2017, 03:34 PM	#1
jjasso007 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 187	Thoughts on our WR corp With the loss of Brandin Cooks, I, personally, was hoping to get a WR around the 3rd round or so to fill that void. Someone who produced at the college level and could come in and contribute immediately. After Michael Thomas and WIllie Snead, our receivers are very lackluster. Brandon Coleman is still inconsistent and never maximizes his size and height advantage. Ted Ginn is known for dropping passes and inconsistency. Now, we all know Drew makes receivers better, but Coleman is still Coleman and that isn't going to change. At TE, Fleener was inconsistent also, and our other TEs are backups. Hopefully the running game being improved, with a stronger offensive line, can open up more for less talented receivers like Coleman and Ginn, but, overall, I feel our WR corp has regressed, as a whole, this offseason. What are your thoughts?

05-02-2017, 04:00 PM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Thoughts on our WR corp It is what it is and Drew will have to make the most of what he has once again.

05-02-2017, 04:01 PM	#3
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,737	Re: Thoughts on our WR corp While I agree that the WR group isn't as talented with the loss of Cooks, I also believe the offense will be just as good. I expect to see a lot more play action type throws than we've seen in the last couple seasons. I think that's the heart of it all. That said, Michael Thomas and Willie Snead provide a very good 1-2 punch. Coleman and some other receivers that have been buried on the depth chart will get a chance to show what they've got. Sean Payton likes his toys. Everyone knows that. He's an offensive minded coach and enjoys deploying his high powered offensive aerial attack. There's no way he traded Cooks without having a plan in place or an idea of who is going to step up next. He's done it for years. The offense will still be firing on all cylinders.

05-02-2017, 11:18 PM	#4
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Thoughts on our WR corp Originally Posted by jnormand While I agree that the WR group isn't as talented with the loss of Cooks, I also believe the offense will be just as good. I expect to see a lot more play action type throws than we've seen in the last couple seasons. I think that's the heart of it all. That said, Michael Thomas and Willie Snead provide a very good 1-2 punch. Coleman and some other receivers that have been buried on the depth chart will get a chance to show what they've got. Sean Payton likes his toys. Everyone knows that. He's an offensive minded coach and enjoys deploying his high powered offensive aerial attack. There's no way he traded Cooks without having a plan in place or an idea of who is going to step up next. He's done it for years. The offense will still be firing on all cylinders. He has not always had a plan in place. Ginn and Coleman are going to be under microscopes in third down and clutch situations. and do we really know what Payton's gameplan is? People assume this is gonna happen but Payton has not ever gone through with what people assumed.

05-02-2017, 04:04 PM	#5
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Thoughts on our WR corp We have two strong WR's. A lot of teams don't even have one. Thomas was also a rookie. Somebody else will emerge in PS. Maybe Travin Dural or one of the others we stashed. Ginn is likely not going to help that much but you never know. Saint in Aus likes this.
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07-03-2017, 02:52 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,740 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Thoughts on our WR corp Originally Posted by Beastmode We have two strong WR's. A lot of teams don't even have one. Thomas was also a rookie. Somebody else will emerge in PS. Maybe Travin Dural or one of the others we stashed. Ginn is likely not going to help that much but you never know. I had to bring this thread back to life. NFL network featured the Saints passing attack last week and analysts mentioned how TG Jr could easily get off against bump/run and blocks downfield in 2016. Cooks was marginal at best in either department. I just find it hard to believe that some think Ted won't be able to help this ball club in this offense. He's also dangerous on special teams (kick off/punt returns). Rugby Saint II and dizzle88 like this.

05-02-2017, 07:44 PM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Thoughts on our WR corp You left out 3 tight ends, 2 rbs and a fullback. Those positions catch more in Payton's offense than most. Seer1 and ChrisXVI like this.

05-02-2017, 08:05 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Thoughts on our WR corp Ginn and Kamara will fill that void nicely Seer1 and K Major like this.

05-02-2017, 08:39 PM	#9
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: Thoughts on our WR corp Another thing to think about - I think our offensive line is going to be one of the best in the league this year. We've got two new stud players with Warford and Ramczyk, and we'll also get back a healthy Armstead. What that means is that Brees will have more time in the pocket and not have to rush his throws as much as he's had to in the past two years. This will help our receivers tremendously. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk
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AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Re: Thoughts on our WR corp Curtis Johnson is back.... im not worried.... jnormand, Rugby Saint II and stickman like this.

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