And so it begins.... Max Unger out

05-09-2017, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I heard that he got pissed in the game against the Cards. But that's all I know of. Except him getting pissed after he got tackled so close to busting one for a big gainer (which doesn't bother me a bit because it seems he's pissed at himself), I don't know of any more. If there were several times when he threw a fit on the sidelines, I don't know about them.

I've never seen him get in trouble off the field. I haven't seen any tweets that were ill willed or showcased some sort of antisocial or passive aggressive attitude.

I'm not saying he hasn't done any of the above. I just haven't seen anything except the Cards game when he was doing a lot of the running in the middle of the field and Hightower was punching them in near the goal line. I didn't like that because a score is a score. But that's all I know of.

And he reacted well to the benching he got and came back running like a psycho.

I like Ingram and don't understand all the hate on the guy. If I'm wrong please enlighten me.

Nobody hates Ingram. He just isn't a transcendent talent like an Adrian Peterson. Look at it this way. The only time Ingram performs it seems is when there is another running back threatening to take his place. If it takes you to get benched multiple times at this point in your career to light a fire under you something is wrong. Why else would they bring Peterson in here when he would play basically the same role as Ingram.

Let's break this down. Ingram is a back who needs volume and gets stronger as the game goes on. Peterson is a back who needs volume and gets stronger as the game goes on. The Saints could have picked up any younger back that's out there if the only requirement was to spell Ingram. Isn't Lasco on the roster? Could he not spell Ingram? Didn't they also just draft Kamara? Could he also not spell Ingram?

I'm just putting two and two together man. It's just not looking good for Ingram. What do you think is going to happen if Peterson comes in and looks like the player who ran for over 2000 yds? Not saying it will happen but if it does it's gonna be hard to keep that guy off the field. If Peterson starts to garner more touches than Ingram you already know he's going to throw a fit if history has anything to say about it.

dafyaman · 05-09-2017, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

There is very much wrong with this post.

Philly couldn't sign AP? They couldn't have take Kamara before us? They didn't want Mixon, Lacy, Murray, Woodhead, Blount?

1. They were talking with Jamaal Charles.
2. Our draft spot was ahead of Philly so they would have to jump us. Also, maybe they didn't like Kamara as much as we did or think he was a fit for them.
3. Mixon was drafted by the Bengals who also was positioned ahead of philly and nobody was touching him in the first round. Lacy signed with Seattle. Woodhead signed with Baltimore. Murray signed with Minnesota. Blount doesn't fit Philly's scheme because they need a zone runner.

I don't get what you are getting at with these questions. You act as if Philly had first dibs on every running back available.

It makes sense to trade Ingram for Kelce and the 4th rd draft pick the Eagles got for Eric Rowe that could possibly become a 3rd rounder. I don't think it happens right away because I think they want to see how Peterson looks first. I think replacing our center is more important than Ingram. Without a good line, we won't be able to run anyway.

lee909 · 05-09-2017, 04:53 AM

Kelce was ranked 31st as a centre last year. He was a pro bowler on name only

spkb25 · 05-09-2017, 06:08 AM

Think this would be a silly trade. Why would we do that when we already have an outstanding center?

jeanpierre · 05-09-2017, 06:10 AM

FinSaint · 05-09-2017, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

Maybe Brian De La Puente would be able to fill in. I know he hasn't played in over a year and is maybe retired so this may be a silly idea. But bringing someone in who knows our system at that position for multiple years is not so silly.

Yeah, that worked out really well with Goodwin.

Championship!

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Seer1 · 05-09-2017, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by dafyaman

I wouldn't call a HOF RB an unknown quantity. Once upon a time Ingram was an unknown quantity by that logic when we let Bush walk. I think Peterson is here to bridge the gap between this year and next year. Cooks being traded should all but tell you how Payton feels about players who complain about not getting the ball which Ingram has done multiple times during the game on the sidelines throwing fits. It's embarrassing to Payton and the coaching staff and it makes the team look bad.

It doesn't matter if a player once put up three hundred yards running on top of water. A guy coming back from an injury is just a guy coming back from an injury -particularly one to the lower extremities- until he proves himself for several games. That ain't gonna happen if there's not someone good hiking the ball in the first place. It makes much more sense to sign one of the guys already out there waiting than to trade the only back we know for sure is decent. Plus, Ingram came to the Saints a child. He's grown up quite a bit and hasn't done the tantrum thing in a couple of years now. He keeps running like he did last year and Payton'll keep taking him home for dinner.

ScottF · 05-09-2017, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by dafyaman

1.

I don't get what you are getting at with these questions. You act as if Philly had first dibs on every running back available.

It makes sense to trade Ingram for Kelce and the 4th rd draft pick the Eagles got for Eric Rowe that could possibly become a 3rd rounder. I don't think it happens right away because I think they want to see how Peterson looks first. I think replacing our center is more important than Ingram. Without a good line, we won't be able to run anyway.

If they are as desperate as you say, then yes, they had "dibs" (aka cap space, draft picks) to get any of a number of backs. Or are you really insinuating that the Eagles were waiting around for an injury opportunity so they could make a trade?

C'mon Will's brother, reveal yourself

hagan714 · 05-09-2017, 10:34 AM

LMAO stop panicking already.

K Major · 05-09-2017, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

LMAO stop panicking already.

05-09-2017, 12:32 AM	#71
Threaded by dafyaman 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 113 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by jnormand I heard that he got pissed in the game against the Cards. But that's all I know of. Except him getting pissed after he got tackled so close to busting one for a big gainer (which doesn't bother me a bit because it seems he's pissed at himself), I don't know of any more. If there were several times when he threw a fit on the sidelines, I don't know about them. I've never seen him get in trouble off the field. I haven't seen any tweets that were ill willed or showcased some sort of antisocial or passive aggressive attitude. I'm not saying he hasn't done any of the above. I just haven't seen anything except the Cards game when he was doing a lot of the running in the middle of the field and Hightower was punching them in near the goal line. I didn't like that because a score is a score. But that's all I know of. And he reacted well to the benching he got and came back running like a psycho. I like Ingram and don't understand all the hate on the guy. If I'm wrong please enlighten me. Nobody hates Ingram. He just isn't a transcendent talent like an Adrian Peterson. Look at it this way. The only time Ingram performs it seems is when there is another running back threatening to take his place. If it takes you to get benched multiple times at this point in your career to light a fire under you something is wrong. Why else would they bring Peterson in here when he would play basically the same role as Ingram. Let's break this down. Ingram is a back who needs volume and gets stronger as the game goes on. Peterson is a back who needs volume and gets stronger as the game goes on. The Saints could have picked up any younger back that's out there if the only requirement was to spell Ingram. Isn't Lasco on the roster? Could he not spell Ingram? Didn't they also just draft Kamara? Could he also not spell Ingram? I'm just putting two and two together man. It's just not looking good for Ingram. What do you think is going to happen if Peterson comes in and looks like the player who ran for over 2000 yds? Not saying it will happen but if it does it's gonna be hard to keep that guy off the field. If Peterson starts to garner more touches than Ingram you already know he's going to throw a fit if history has anything to say about it.
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05-09-2017, 01:04 AM	#72
dafyaman 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 113	Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out Originally Posted by ScottF There is very much wrong with this post. Philly couldn't sign AP? They couldn't have take Kamara before us? They didn't want Mixon, Lacy, Murray, Woodhead, Blount? 1. They were talking with Jamaal Charles. 2. Our draft spot was ahead of Philly so they would have to jump us. Also, maybe they didn't like Kamara as much as we did or think he was a fit for them. 3. Mixon was drafted by the Bengals who also was positioned ahead of philly and nobody was touching him in the first round. Lacy signed with Seattle. Woodhead signed with Baltimore. Murray signed with Minnesota. Blount doesn't fit Philly's scheme because they need a zone runner. I don't get what you are getting at with these questions. You act as if Philly had first dibs on every running back available. It makes sense to trade Ingram for Kelce and the 4th rd draft pick the Eagles got for Eric Rowe that could possibly become a 3rd rounder. I don't think it happens right away because I think they want to see how Peterson looks first. I think replacing our center is more important than Ingram. Without a good line, we won't be able to run anyway.
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05-09-2017, 04:53 AM	#73
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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out Originally Posted by neugey Maybe Brian De La Puente would be able to fill in. I know he hasn't played in over a year and is maybe retired so this may be a silly idea. But bringing someone in who knows our system at that position for multiple years is not so silly. Yeah, that worked out really well with Goodwin. Championship! Sent from my FRD-L19 using Tapatalk

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out Originally Posted by dafyaman I wouldn't call a HOF RB an unknown quantity. Once upon a time Ingram was an unknown quantity by that logic when we let Bush walk. I think Peterson is here to bridge the gap between this year and next year. Cooks being traded should all but tell you how Payton feels about players who complain about not getting the ball which Ingram has done multiple times during the game on the sidelines throwing fits. It's embarrassing to Payton and the coaching staff and it makes the team look bad. It doesn't matter if a player once put up three hundred yards running on top of water. A guy coming back from an injury is just a guy coming back from an injury -particularly one to the lower extremities- until he proves himself for several games. That ain't gonna happen if there's not someone good hiking the ball in the first place. It makes much more sense to sign one of the guys already out there waiting than to trade the only back we know for sure is decent. Plus, Ingram came to the Saints a child. He's grown up quite a bit and hasn't done the tantrum thing in a couple of years now. He keeps running like he did last year and Payton'll keep taking him home for dinner. jnormand likes this.
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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out Originally Posted by dafyaman 1. I don't get what you are getting at with these questions. You act as if Philly had first dibs on every running back available. It makes sense to trade Ingram for Kelce and the 4th rd draft pick the Eagles got for Eric Rowe that could possibly become a 3rd rounder. I don't think it happens right away because I think they want to see how Peterson looks first. I think replacing our center is more important than Ingram. Without a good line, we won't be able to run anyway. If they are as desperate as you say, then yes, they had "dibs" (aka cap space, draft picks) to get any of a number of backs. Or are you really insinuating that the Eagles were waiting around for an injury opportunity so they could make a trade? C'mon Will's brother, reveal yourself

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