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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No. You said you have to look back at past failures if you want to be successful. So you agree that looking at past failures, something that you are obsessed with, has no impact on the ...
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06-21-2017, 04:25 PM | #101 |
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Re: Playoffs or bust?
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
He's talking about in life you moron. Parallel to football. Personally you have to learn from your mistakes and do what needs to be done to fix them. Any aspect of life is this way weather it's a football team or the history of the world.
He's trying to explain to you how normal people come to there conclusions. |
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06-21-2017, 04:40 PM | #102 |
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Re: Playoffs or bust?
Originally Posted by spkb25
I totally agree that having a positive outlook in your own life can change how your life turns out drastically. I do believe the will to survive and positive determination can cure disease.
I believe in your own business envisioning success leads to success. Positive thinking DOES lead to positive results in ones own life along with learning from and changing the negative aspect of your past and present. That is personal life, not football. You can't just will a team to win which he seems to think he can. I think he has a problem separating life and sports. It's a football team whose job is to win Super Bowls. Nothing wrong with us as fans discussing what we think should happen or what we would do if we COULD do something about it. I'm going to stop because we clearly aren't dealing with a rational person. He seems like a good person, a caring person, and probably someone whose positivity would rub off on you when it comes to aspects of your personal life, but when it comes to the Saints he goes into lala land. Even worse he expects everyone else to join him. |
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06-21-2017, 04:50 PM | #103 |
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But anyway I think if we win one of the first two games we will get the taste of losing early out of our mouths and have steam to build on moving forward. Starting strong for this team this year is key, more than ever. We don't want a Groundhog Day feeling in the locker room.
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06-21-2017, 05:47 PM | #104 |
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Re: Playoffs or bust?
Originally Posted by The Dude
Wrong, Dude. spkb25 claimed on multiple occasions that he does and we should look at past failures to make sure things are done better in the future. That was his explanation for constantly dwelling on negative aspects of the franchises recent past. I can take some time and link every thread where he made that argument if you wish.
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Originally Posted by The Dude
I would be shocked if we don't win the opener at Minny.
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06-21-2017, 06:31 PM | #106 |
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I like to look at teams in an aspect of "what have you done lately?"
In these terms, the Saints haven't been relevant since 2013. The patriots have 2 Super Bowl victories in that span and we have 3 consecutive 7-9 seasons. I have no issues with Spkb bringing up the past, we have the freedom on a sports forum to discuss past failures, and that's what the Saints have been for 3 years, failures. No amount of excuses change that, Sean Payton for instance expected a 37 year old Champ Bailey to win the starting corner job in 2014 and then had zero depth when he didn't play as expected. You are only as good as your record says, and we are 7-9, consistently mediocre. |
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06-21-2017, 07:04 PM | #107 |
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Re: Playoffs or bust?
Originally Posted by dizzle88
So you are projecting another 7-9 this season based solely upon the past? Well, diz?
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06-21-2017, 07:22 PM | #108 |
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
I'm not projecting a 7-9 season, didn't say anything of the sort.
I said we have been consistently mediocre in the past. But I have no problem reflecting on past failures and identifying where the problems lie. |
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Re: Playoffs or bust?
Originally Posted by dizzle88
And that's what it is all about. You churn 3 straight 7-9 seasons, 4 of the last 5 seasons, you're on your third d coord and set a record for dead money. You don't brush that away as if it doesn't exist, didn't exist, etc. If we were making good moves those things would not have happened.
If as a fan you choose to pump sunshine and rainbows I don't have a problem with it. I think when it becomes an issue is when you go around attacking the other members of the board for talking about facts and why they're hesitant to get sucked in again and not really look at who this team is, etc. Pump sunshine all day if it tickles your fancy, but leave those with a critical view of the team to share their thoughts without being bothered. |
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06-21-2017, 08:44 PM | #110 |
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Re: Playoffs or bust?
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Now your just putting words in peoples mouths .
Since you are so hung up on fact checking please show me how you arrived at that conclusion. Show us the quote of him saying that. Really I want to see your translation of what you think he said. What would lead you to believe that he because he values the past he must think we are going to have the same record. |
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