Playoffs or bust?

CharityMike · 06-16-2017, 06:53 PM

Chris and Saintfaninatlhell answered it better than I could.

I would only add that IMO...a question like this is usually made at the end of a season of failure like the last few. But when asked at this time, it felt WillSaint81 ish...This is the time for optimism..the time when everything is puppy dogs and rainbows. The new season is almost here and everyone is on a even keel at this point. Its the time for speculation..the time for HOPE and the time for optimism.

To me Dude, your post felt negative and I took it as such. If that wasn't your intention, I get it. Its all good. You are correct, this is a fan forum. We are all entitled to our own opinion.

I am looking forward to this season and being here talking about the team we all love. So lets stay optimistic and hope we can turn this thing around. WHO DAT!

dizzle88 · 06-18-2017, 05:13 PM

Like it or not Brees is not going to last forever and Payton fired a butt load of staff recently. We are trying to win now.

Therefore, anything short of the playoffs is an automatic failure.

But then again, all 32 teams aim for the playoffs.

spkb25 · 06-18-2017, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Like it or not Brees is not going to last forever and Payton fired a butt load of staff recently. We are trying to win now.

Therefore, anything short of the playoffs is an automatic failure.

But then again, all 32 teams aim for the playoffs.

And Drew knows this. He doesn't want to end his career with a consistent loser. So he is on a wait and see.

AsylumGuido · 06-18-2017, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

And Drew knows this. He doesn't want to end his career with a consistent loser. So he is on a wait and see.

You don't have a clue. You are full of ****. LOL!

The Dude · 06-18-2017, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

And Drew knows this. He doesn't want to end his career with a consistent loser. So he is on a wait and see.

Yea he's sure not taking it year to year just to sign one year contracts until he retires. He's also not going to come out and say "I'm taking it year to year to see what direction the team is headed before I make another big decision". He is likely not signing now to focus on this year AND make an evaluation after it's over. At his age he's taking a risk. Ink a contract now and secure his future or play out his contract knowing that if gets injured his price tag will take a huge drop or just become non existent.

Nothing about a HOF QB at his age leads me to believe he would stay with a team that produces losing seasons every year.

I do however think we will be a better team and the firing of the coaching staff tells me Payton is serious.

I think by game 4 you know the team well enough to see how the season could shake out.

The comment that said nothing I can say will change a thing is just asinine. Nobody in there right mind should take a statement like "heads to roll" and act like I thought I was going to somehow effect anything.

Papa Voodoo · 06-20-2017, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Yea he's sure not taking it year to year just to sign one year contracts until he retires. He's also not going to come out and say "I'm taking it year to year to see what direction the team is headed before I make another big decision". He is likely not signing now to focus on this year AND make an evaluation after it's over. At his age he's taking a risk. Ink a contract now and secure his future or play out his contract knowing that if gets injured his price tag will take a huge drop or just become non existent.

Nothing about a HOF QB at his age leads me to believe he would stay with a team that produces losing seasons every year.

I do however think we will be a better team and the firing of the coaching staff tells me Payton is serious.

I think by game 4 you know the team well enough to see how the season could shake out.

The comment that said nothing I can say will change a thing is just asinine. Nobody in there right mind should take a statement like "heads to roll" and act like I thought I was going to somehow effect anything.

Drew has several businesses in the city. His kids and wife have roots here. 11 years is a long time to uproot and move to chase a Super Bowl that may not materialize in the new city. Major changes were made and heads did roll due to the mediocrity. With new coaches and players it's unfair to compare this team if it goes 7-9 to the past teams. Give them time. We have a very hard start to the season. If we go 2-2 that would be huge. 1-3 would be ok too as long as they continue to improve as the season progresses. From what I've read I think that's all Asylum has asked fellow posters to acknowledge. If we kept the same coaches and went 7-9 then the question would have more weight.

AsylumGuido · 06-20-2017, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Drew has several businesses in the city. His kids and wife have roots here. 11 years is a long time to uproot and move to chase a Super Bowl that may not materialize in the new city. Major changes were made and heads did roll due to the mediocrity. With new coaches and players it's unfair to compare this team if it goes 7-9 to the past teams. Give them time. We have a very hard start to the season. If we go 2-2 that would be huge. 1-3 would be ok too as long as they continue to improve as the season progresses. From what I've read I think that's all Asylum has asked fellow posters to acknowledge. If we kept the same coaches and went 7-9 then the question would have more weight.

Well said, Papa!

spkb25 · 06-21-2017, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Drew has several businesses in the city. His kids and wife have roots here. 11 years is a long time to uproot and move to chase a Super Bowl that may not materialize in the new city. Major changes were made and heads did roll due to the mediocrity. With new coaches and players it's unfair to compare this team if it goes 7-9 to the past teams. Give them time. We have a very hard start to the season. If we go 2-2 that would be huge. 1-3 would be ok too as long as they continue to improve as the season progresses. From what I've read I think that's all Asylum has asked fellow posters to acknowledge. If we kept the same coaches and went 7-9 then the question would have more weight.

If we go 7-9 again and you think it is somehow different then the previous 4 out of 5 and what would then be 5 of 6. Ouch it is already a pattern how many more do you require than 5 of 6 seasons? Let's hope that's not the result and we win the division

spkb25 · 06-18-2017, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Like it or not Brees is not going to last forever and Payton fired a butt load of staff recently. We are trying to win now.

Therefore, anything short of the playoffs is an automatic failure.

But then again, all 32 teams aim for the playoffs.

and the other thought too is how many years does a coach survive without playoff appearances.

WillSaints81 · 06-18-2017, 06:22 PM

If we do not make the playoffs this time, that's it. Time to make changes. Drew's legacy is already falling further and further with each 7-9 season. How can he keep putting up with losing season after losing season?

06-16-2017, 06:53 PM	#1
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Playoffs or bust? Chris and Saintfaninatlhell answered it better than I could. I would only add that IMO...a question like this is usually made at the end of a season of failure like the last few. But when asked at this time, it felt WillSaint81 ish...This is the time for optimism..the time when everything is puppy dogs and rainbows. The new season is almost here and everyone is on a even keel at this point. Its the time for speculation..the time for HOPE and the time for optimism. To me Dude, your post felt negative and I took it as such. If that wasn't your intention, I get it. Its all good. You are correct, this is a fan forum. We are all entitled to our own opinion. I am looking forward to this season and being here talking about the team we all love. So lets stay optimistic and hope we can turn this thing around. WHO DAT! AsylumGuido likes this.

06-18-2017, 05:13 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Playoffs or bust? Like it or not Brees is not going to last forever and Payton fired a butt load of staff recently. We are trying to win now. Therefore, anything short of the playoffs is an automatic failure. But then again, all 32 teams aim for the playoffs.

06-18-2017, 05:27 PM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Like it or not Brees is not going to last forever and Payton fired a butt load of staff recently. We are trying to win now. Therefore, anything short of the playoffs is an automatic failure. But then again, all 32 teams aim for the playoffs. And Drew knows this. He doesn't want to end his career with a consistent loser. So he is on a wait and see.

06-18-2017, 05:37 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by spkb25 And Drew knows this. He doesn't want to end his career with a consistent loser. So he is on a wait and see. You don't have a clue. You are full of ****. LOL!

06-18-2017, 11:58 PM	#5
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by spkb25 And Drew knows this. He doesn't want to end his career with a consistent loser. So he is on a wait and see. Yea he's sure not taking it year to year just to sign one year contracts until he retires. He's also not going to come out and say "I'm taking it year to year to see what direction the team is headed before I make another big decision". He is likely not signing now to focus on this year AND make an evaluation after it's over. At his age he's taking a risk. Ink a contract now and secure his future or play out his contract knowing that if gets injured his price tag will take a huge drop or just become non existent. Nothing about a HOF QB at his age leads me to believe he would stay with a team that produces losing seasons every year. I do however think we will be a better team and the firing of the coaching staff tells me Payton is serious. I think by game 4 you know the team well enough to see how the season could shake out. The comment that said nothing I can say will change a thing is just asinine. Nobody in there right mind should take a statement like "heads to roll" and act like I thought I was going to somehow effect anything. spkb25 likes this.
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06-20-2017, 07:55 PM	#6
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by The Dude Yea he's sure not taking it year to year just to sign one year contracts until he retires. He's also not going to come out and say "I'm taking it year to year to see what direction the team is headed before I make another big decision". He is likely not signing now to focus on this year AND make an evaluation after it's over. At his age he's taking a risk. Ink a contract now and secure his future or play out his contract knowing that if gets injured his price tag will take a huge drop or just become non existent. Nothing about a HOF QB at his age leads me to believe he would stay with a team that produces losing seasons every year. I do however think we will be a better team and the firing of the coaching staff tells me Payton is serious. I think by game 4 you know the team well enough to see how the season could shake out. The comment that said nothing I can say will change a thing is just asinine. Nobody in there right mind should take a statement like "heads to roll" and act like I thought I was going to somehow effect anything. Drew has several businesses in the city. His kids and wife have roots here. 11 years is a long time to uproot and move to chase a Super Bowl that may not materialize in the new city. Major changes were made and heads did roll due to the mediocrity. With new coaches and players it's unfair to compare this team if it goes 7-9 to the past teams. Give them time. We have a very hard start to the season. If we go 2-2 that would be huge. 1-3 would be ok too as long as they continue to improve as the season progresses. From what I've read I think that's all Asylum has asked fellow posters to acknowledge. If we kept the same coaches and went 7-9 then the question would have more weight. SaintFanInATLHELL, AsylumGuido, WW_Who_Dat and 1 others like this.

06-20-2017, 08:18 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Drew has several businesses in the city. His kids and wife have roots here. 11 years is a long time to uproot and move to chase a Super Bowl that may not materialize in the new city. Major changes were made and heads did roll due to the mediocrity. With new coaches and players it's unfair to compare this team if it goes 7-9 to the past teams. Give them time. We have a very hard start to the season. If we go 2-2 that would be huge. 1-3 would be ok too as long as they continue to improve as the season progresses. From what I've read I think that's all Asylum has asked fellow posters to acknowledge. If we kept the same coaches and went 7-9 then the question would have more weight. Well said, Papa!

06-21-2017, 12:09 AM	#8
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Drew has several businesses in the city. His kids and wife have roots here. 11 years is a long time to uproot and move to chase a Super Bowl that may not materialize in the new city. Major changes were made and heads did roll due to the mediocrity. With new coaches and players it's unfair to compare this team if it goes 7-9 to the past teams. Give them time. We have a very hard start to the season. If we go 2-2 that would be huge. 1-3 would be ok too as long as they continue to improve as the season progresses. From what I've read I think that's all Asylum has asked fellow posters to acknowledge. If we kept the same coaches and went 7-9 then the question would have more weight. If we go 7-9 again and you think it is somehow different then the previous 4 out of 5 and what would then be 5 of 6. Ouch it is already a pattern how many more do you require than 5 of 6 seasons? Let's hope that's not the result and we win the division

06-18-2017, 06:21 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Playoffs or bust? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Like it or not Brees is not going to last forever and Payton fired a butt load of staff recently. We are trying to win now. Therefore, anything short of the playoffs is an automatic failure. But then again, all 32 teams aim for the playoffs. and the other thought too is how many years does a coach survive without playoff appearances. dizzle88 likes this.

06-18-2017, 06:22 PM	#10
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Playoffs or bust? If we do not make the playoffs this time, that's it. Time to make changes. Drew's legacy is already falling further and further with each 7-9 season. How can he keep putting up with losing season after losing season?

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