Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder)

The Dude · 06-18-2017, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Wait..... what?

lol I meant guards not L and R tackle. If I had my choice of where to elite players go I would want them at guard. The LT still needs to be on point, not saying that position doesn't need attention.

The Dude · 06-18-2017, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Several starters out for a while. What are these guys doing to suffer these critical injuries? Not normal.

Apparently it was just a freak thing. He was working with tackling dummies and fell in an awquard position on a mat.
I have had 3 surgeries to repair labrum and rotator cuff. It sucks. It was ten years ago and I still feel it sometimes. They literally had to drill a button into my bone and loop it around it.

Bright side is maybe this will be it. As bad as injuries have been the past several years odds say we are due for a break.

On a side note I have torn a few labia in my lifetime.

K Major · 06-18-2017, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

lol I meant guards not L and R tackle. If I had my choice of where to elite players go I would want them at guard. The LT still needs to be on point, not saying that position doesn't need attention.

I'd choose the latter (tackle). Circle back to last season. When Armstead was injured, Peat moved from GUARD to LEFT TACKLE. Coach Roushar plugged in someone else to play G. Again, the nasty edge rushers in the NFL are coming off the edge, not up the middle.

I think Peat will see a lot of time at tackle to protect #9's blind side.

K Major · 06-18-2017, 12:22 PM

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ScottF · 06-18-2017, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Ryan Clady sounds like a decent stop-gap.

I'd imagine we already have a list of 10 or so veteran LT's that could possibly be cut before the season starts.

31, but we only need him for the year
Austin Pasztor is an option as well. Maybe Jake Long will get off the couch for the opportunity to block for a couple hall of famers

ChrisXVI · 06-18-2017, 05:54 PM

If it's about getting the best players on the field you leave Peat at LG and Ramczyk plays LT. Here's a guy talented enough to be a first round pick and what good would it do us leaving him on the bench now that we have a hole on the O-Line? If he wasn't capable he wouldn't be here.

I understand the hesitation though. It's scary having a rookie protecting Drew's blindside, but an O-Line of Ramczyk-Peat-Unger-Warford-Strief can still give us one of the best lines in the league.

jeanpierre · 06-18-2017, 06:52 PM

Main thing will be to get Unger back healthy, strong at Center...

We've got three LT on the roster in Armstead, Peat, and Ramcyzk...

Armstead is good, when healthy, but when was he last healthy?

I'd worry more about the interior, Center, than LT if I'm a Saints fan...

K Major · 06-18-2017, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

If it's about getting the best players on the field you leave Peat at LG and Ramczyk plays LT. Here's a guy talented enough to be a first round pick and what good would it do us leaving him on the bench now that we have a hole on the O-Line? If he wasn't capable he wouldn't be here.

Maybe, just maybe Ramczyk balls out as a rookie ... shades of Carl Nicks 2.0.

ChrisXVI · 06-18-2017, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Maybe, just maybe Ramczyk balls out as a rookie ... shades of Carl Nicks 2.0.

I saw someone say this over on Reddit:

"I remember when we lost our star LT before the 2009 season too."

That's the kind of optimism I'm sticking with too for now otherwise it'll be a long summer!

AsylumGuido · 06-18-2017, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I saw someone say this over on Reddit:

"I remember when we lost our star LT before the 2009 season too."

That's the kind of optimism I'm sticking with too for now otherwise it'll be a long summer!

Much better than always expecting doom and gloom like others. Bravo!

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Originally Posted by Beastmode Several starters out for a while. What are these guys doing to suffer these critical injuries? Not normal. Apparently it was just a freak thing. He was working with tackling dummies and fell in an awquard position on a mat. I have had 3 surgeries to repair labrum and rotator cuff. It sucks. It was ten years ago and I still feel it sometimes. They literally had to drill a button into my bone and loop it around it. Bright side is maybe this will be it. As bad as injuries have been the past several years odds say we are due for a break. On a side note I have torn a few labia in my lifetime.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Originally Posted by The Dude lol I meant guards not L and R tackle. If I had my choice of where to elite players go I would want them at guard. The LT still needs to be on point, not saying that position doesn't need attention. I'd choose the latter (tackle). Circle back to last season. When Armstead was injured, Peat moved from GUARD to LEFT TACKLE. Coach Roushar plugged in someone else to play G. Again, the nasty edge rushers in the NFL are coming off the edge, not up the middle. I think Peat will see a lot of time at tackle to protect #9's blind side.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Originally Posted by Danno Ryan Clady sounds like a decent stop-gap. I'd imagine we already have a list of 10 or so veteran LT's that could possibly be cut before the season starts. 31, but we only need him for the year Austin Pasztor is an option as well. Maybe Jake Long will get off the couch for the opportunity to block for a couple hall of famers

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Main thing will be to get Unger back healthy, strong at Center... We've got three LT on the roster in Armstead, Peat, and Ramcyzk... Armstead is good, when healthy, but when was he last healthy? I'd worry more about the interior, Center, than LT if I'm a Saints fan... SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Originally Posted by ChrisXVI If it's about getting the best players on the field you leave Peat at LG and Ramczyk plays LT. Here's a guy talented enough to be a first round pick and what good would it do us leaving him on the bench now that we have a hole on the O-Line? If he wasn't capable he wouldn't be here. Maybe, just maybe Ramczyk balls out as a rookie ... shades of Carl Nicks 2.0. AsylumGuido and ChrisXVI like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Originally Posted by K Major Maybe, just maybe Ramczyk balls out as a rookie ... shades of Carl Nicks 2.0. I saw someone say this over on Reddit: "I remember when we lost our star LT before the 2009 season too." That's the kind of optimism I'm sticking with too for now otherwise it'll be a long summer! CharityMike likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,045	Re: Armstead out 4 - 6 months (shoulder) Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I saw someone say this over on Reddit: "I remember when we lost our star LT before the 2009 season too." That's the kind of optimism I'm sticking with too for now otherwise it'll be a long summer! Much better than always expecting doom and gloom like others. Bravo! jnormand, ChrisXVI and CharityMike like this.

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