Back to the Past....Just Briefly!

Seer1 · 07-23-2017, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Ugh. I'm so bored! Longest off season ever! How much ****ing longer?!!!

A lot ****ing longer!

K Major · 07-23-2017, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Niether The Spartans Malik McDowell I think his name is

Oh the Spartan. At 11 he would have been a reach ... I had concerns even at 32. He had too many question marks about his desire and work ethic. Too many past performances where scouts question his motivation & consistency. I believe Malik would be better in a 3-4 D. Didn't appear to be a "fit" in NO anyway.

For me personally, I'd stay away from guys with questionable effort anywhere in the draft.

AsylumGuido · 07-23-2017, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

There were better value for those picks. Oh yea and Carl Lawson.

And none of them have played a single down in the NFL. Wait three years before making those proclamations.

Rell&Gold · 07-23-2017, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And none of them have played a single down in the NFL. Wait three years before making those proclamations.

So how can you say we got the best value at those spots in the draft? Our players havent played a down either. A little contradiction there. Also Malik McDowell was THE ONLY player worth drafting on that terible defense I mean he did play EVERY DL pos also Taco was said to "take plays off" didnt hurt his stock, and every other player has red flags NO PLAYERis perfect. I actually watched Game tape on Malik I disagree with takes plays off, but you know to each his own.

AsylumGuido · 07-24-2017, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

So how can you say we got the best value at those spots in the draft? Our players havent played a down either. A little contradiction there. Also Malik McDowell was THE ONLY player worth drafting on that terible defense I mean he did play EVERY DL pos also Taco was said to "take plays off" didnt hurt his stock, and every other player has red flags NO PLAYERis perfect. I actually watched Game tape on Malik I disagree with takes plays off, but you know to each his own.

According to draft "experts" we got value at every pick. How they actually turn out there is no way to know. We'll find out well down the road for most. Although, I hope there is a Michael Thomas or two which shine early.

Seer1 · 07-25-2017, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

So how can you say we got the best value at those spots in the draft? Our players havent played a down either. A little contradiction there. Also Malik McDowell was THE ONLY player worth drafting on that terible defense I mean he did play EVERY DL pos also Taco was said to "take plays off" didnt hurt his stock, and every other player has red flags NO PLAYERis perfect. I actually watched Game tape on Malik I disagree with takes plays off, but you know to each his own.

There's no "best" in any draft until three-four years down the road. Pretty good is about as far as it goes and we did that. We didn't hit every position you thought we should've, but there are only so many draft picks and we had a boatload of areas to address. I watch a lot of B1G football through the year and I agree that Taco does take a lot of vacations too. I was glad we didn't take either of the Michigan hyped up food groups. I really didn't see that much special in Malik. He dominated the lesser lines, but he'd often disappear when he was up against good talent. Shoot, look at the head to head of the Spartans vs the Badgers last year. He had one tackle and one assist. Not only was nobody home, the lights weren't even on.

vpheughan · 07-25-2017, 11:18 AM

How can it be that "They haven't played a down ......judge after 3 years.
YET "EXPERTS" declare them "Great Value" when selected?
Seems the "Experts" left out an important word. "Potential"

So you can "Have your cake" and "Eat it too"!
Potentially of course!

Seer1 · 07-25-2017, 12:54 PM

In my days I've run across a lot of real estate agents who love that word "potential".

AsylumGuido · 07-25-2017, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

How can it be that "They haven't played a down ......judge after 3 years.
YET "EXPERTS" declare them "Great Value" when selected?
Seems the "Experts" left out an important word. "Potential"

So you can "Have your cake" and "Eat it too"!
Potentially of course!

Exactly. At this point there is ONLY potential.

07-23-2017, 12:42 PM	#31
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Back to the Past....Just Briefly! Originally Posted by jnormand Ugh. I'm so bored! Longest off season ever! How much **ing longer?!!! A lot **ing longer! jnormand likes this.

07-23-2017, 12:44 PM	#32
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Back to the Past....Just Briefly! Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Niether The Spartans Malik McDowell I think his name is Oh the Spartan. At 11 he would have been a reach ... I had concerns even at 32. He had too many question marks about his desire and work ethic. Too many past performances where scouts question his motivation & consistency. I believe Malik would be better in a 3-4 D. Didn't appear to be a "fit" in NO anyway. For me personally, I'd stay away from guys with questionable effort anywhere in the draft. jnormand, AsylumGuido and Seer1 like this.

07-23-2017, 02:16 PM	#33
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Back to the Past....Just Briefly! Originally Posted by Rell&Gold There were better value for those picks. Oh yea and Carl Lawson. And none of them have played a single down in the NFL. Wait three years before making those proclamations.

07-23-2017, 10:06 PM	#34
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: Back to the Past....Just Briefly! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And none of them have played a single down in the NFL. Wait three years before making those proclamations. So how can you say we got the best value at those spots in the draft? Our players havent played a down either. A little contradiction there. Also Malik McDowell was THE ONLY player worth drafting on that terible defense I mean he did play EVERY DL pos also Taco was said to "take plays off" didnt hurt his stock, and every other player has red flags NO PLAYERis perfect. I actually watched Game tape on Malik I disagree with takes plays off, but you know to each his own.

07-24-2017, 08:16 AM	#35
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Back to the Past....Just Briefly! Originally Posted by Rell&Gold So how can you say we got the best value at those spots in the draft? Our players havent played a down either. A little contradiction there. Also Malik McDowell was THE ONLY player worth drafting on that terible defense I mean he did play EVERY DL pos also Taco was said to "take plays off" didnt hurt his stock, and every other player has red flags NO PLAYERis perfect. I actually watched Game tape on Malik I disagree with takes plays off, but you know to each his own. According to draft "experts" we got value at every pick. How they actually turn out there is no way to know. We'll find out well down the road for most. Although, I hope there is a Michael Thomas or two which shine early.

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07-25-2017, 08:55 AM	#36
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Back to the Past....Just Briefly! Originally Posted by Rell&Gold So how can you say we got the best value at those spots in the draft? Our players havent played a down either. A little contradiction there. Also Malik McDowell was THE ONLY player worth drafting on that terible defense I mean he did play EVERY DL pos also Taco was said to "take plays off" didnt hurt his stock, and every other player has red flags NO PLAYERis perfect. I actually watched Game tape on Malik I disagree with takes plays off, but you know to each his own. There's no "best" in any draft until three-four years down the road. Pretty good is about as far as it goes and we did that. We didn't hit every position you thought we should've, but there are only so many draft picks and we had a boatload of areas to address. I watch a lot of B1G football through the year and I agree that Taco does take a lot of vacations too. I was glad we didn't take either of the Michigan hyped up food groups. I really didn't see that much special in Malik. He dominated the lesser lines, but he'd often disappear when he was up against good talent. Shoot, look at the head to head of the Spartans vs the Badgers last year. He had one tackle and one assist. Not only was nobody home, the lights weren't even on.
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07-25-2017, 11:18 AM	#37
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07-25-2017, 12:54 PM	#38
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Back to the Past....Just Briefly! In my days I've run across a lot of real estate agents who love that word "potential".

07-25-2017, 12:55 PM	#39
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Back to the Past....Just Briefly! Originally Posted by vpheughan How can it be that "They haven't played a down ......judge after 3 years. YET "EXPERTS" declare them "Great Value" when selected? Seems the "Experts" left out an important word. "Potential" So you can "Have your cake" and "Eat it too"! Potentially of course! Exactly. At this point there is ONLY potential.

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