Back to the Past....Just Briefly!

The Dude · 07-22-2017, 11:53 AM

We did wind up getting major value for our picks. It's over now so we can only look forward. Most people hated the Michael Thomas pick last year but aren't complaining now.

Rell&Gold · 07-22-2017, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

We did wind up getting major value for our picks. It's over now so we can only look forward. Most people hated the Michael Thomas pick last year but aren't complaining now.

Right but you have to look back to make sure you dont make the same mistakes goong forward. And the Saints put defense on the backburner in my eyes. I didnt see too many people complaining about the Mike Thomas pick. And I wouldnt compare Mikes expectations to that of Anzalones so to speak.

jeanpierre · 07-23-2017, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Right but you have to look back to make sure you dont make the same mistakes goong forward. And the Saints put defense on the backburner in my eyes. I didnt see too many people complaining about the Mike Thomas pick. And I wouldnt compare Mikes expectations to that of Anzalones so to speak.

Rell, not seeing how we put defense on the back burner in this draft...

Saints took Lattimore with the first pick, two of the first three picks were defense, and five our of our total seven picks were defense...

I'd been banging the table for Hendrickson right where we took him, though I'd admit I thought we'd take a DE sooner...

But when you look at our haul on paper, we addressed every need we had on defense CB, DE and FS - And don't forget about the coaching upgrades as well...

Plus, you've got to factor last year's draft of two defensive linemen (Rankins, Onyemata) and SS Vonn Bell as welll - three of the five picks last year...

If it's the Ramczyk pick people choose to criticize, then consider this:

(1) Zach Strief was just paid a cool add'l mil to come back for his 12th season, so we're getting close...

(2) We've had an injured LT the past two seasons and guess what we've got going into this season?

(3) Yes, Ryan had a hip strain (now healed going into training camp) but he was rated at least a Top 20 pick by many teams and we got him at 32...

(4) We've now got a guy who will probably be with us for a ten+ year career, again with a No. 32 investment...

It should be obvious from my posts here in our online community that I love building through the draft, would love a ten round draft and for us to acquire picks...

..., but the last two years show significant hauls, even though I hated the two-for-one trading...

AsylumGuido · 07-22-2017, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

We did wind up getting major value for our picks. It's over now so we can only look forward. Most people hated the Michael Thomas pick last year but aren't complaining now.

Exactly. I think we got excellent value for our picks and let's see what Hendrickson brings us. I have read comparisons to JJ Watt, Shaq Lawson, Rob Ninkovich, etc.

Rell&Gold · 07-23-2017, 02:02 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Exactly. I think we got excellent value for our picks and let's see what Hendrickson brings us. I have read comparisons to JJ Watt, Shaq Lawson, Rob Ninkovich, etc.

Who in their right mind is comparing Hendrickson to Watt? They dont even play the same position different size what is there to compare? Rob Ninkovich sounds like a realistic comparison but out of those three thats where I would stop.

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07-22-2017, 11:59 AM	#2
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Back to the Past....Just Briefly! Originally Posted by The Dude We did wind up getting major value for our picks. It's over now so we can only look forward. Most people hated the Michael Thomas pick last year but aren't complaining now. Right but you have to look back to make sure you dont make the same mistakes goong forward. And the Saints put defense on the backburner in my eyes. I didnt see too many people complaining about the Mike Thomas pick. And I wouldnt compare Mikes expectations to that of Anzalones so to speak.

07-23-2017, 07:36 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Back to the Past....Just Briefly! Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Right but you have to look back to make sure you dont make the same mistakes goong forward. And the Saints put defense on the backburner in my eyes. I didnt see too many people complaining about the Mike Thomas pick. And I wouldnt compare Mikes expectations to that of Anzalones so to speak. Rell, not seeing how we put defense on the back burner in this draft... Saints took Lattimore with the first pick, two of the first three picks were defense, and five our of our total seven picks were defense... I'd been banging the table for Hendrickson right where we took him, though I'd admit I thought we'd take a DE sooner... But when you look at our haul on paper, we addressed every need we had on defense CB, DE and FS - And don't forget about the coaching upgrades as well... Plus, you've got to factor last year's draft of two defensive linemen (Rankins, Onyemata) and SS Vonn Bell as welll - three of the five picks last year... If it's the Ramczyk pick people choose to criticize, then consider this: (1) Zach Strief was just paid a cool add'l mil to come back for his 12th season, so we're getting close... (2) We've had an injured LT the past two seasons and guess what we've got going into this season? (3) Yes, Ryan had a hip strain (now healed going into training camp) but he was rated at least a Top 20 pick by many teams and we got him at 32... (4) We've now got a guy who will probably be with us for a ten+ year career, again with a No. 32 investment... It should be obvious from my posts here in our online community that I love building through the draft, would love a ten round draft and for us to acquire picks... ..., but the last two years show significant hauls, even though I hated the two-for-one trading... saintsfan1976 likes this.
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07-22-2017, 12:22 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Back to the Past....Just Briefly! Originally Posted by The Dude We did wind up getting major value for our picks. It's over now so we can only look forward. Most people hated the Michael Thomas pick last year but aren't complaining now. Exactly. I think we got excellent value for our picks and let's see what Hendrickson brings us. I have read comparisons to JJ Watt, Shaq Lawson, Rob Ninkovich, etc.

07-23-2017, 02:02 AM	#5
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Back to the Past....Just Briefly! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Exactly. I think we got excellent value for our picks and let's see what Hendrickson brings us. I have read comparisons to JJ Watt, Shaq Lawson, Rob Ninkovich, etc. Who in their right mind is comparing Hendrickson to Watt? They dont even play the same position different size what is there to compare? Rob Ninkovich sounds like a realistic comparison but out of those three thats where I would stop.

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