Saints secondary is aiming to be the strength of the defense

ChrisXVI · 07-30-2017, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Marcus Williams (bad pursuit angles) and Vonn Bell (getting burnt deep) are having their problems early in training camp...

I suspect they'll have some personal time with Dennis Allen, who's position specialty was safeties; Raphael Bush could always start as FS as well...

We're running alot of two deep safety looks; I suspect that's also because of the LBer depth, talent level...

Kenny Vacarro has been nonexistent too so far in training camp. It's early still but all this cover 2 is square peg-round hole stuff.

jeanpierre · 07-30-2017, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Kenny Vacarro has been nonexistent too so far in training camp. It's early still but all this cover 2 is square peg-round hole stuff.

I don't know, Chris, just because we're not hearing Vacarro's name doesn't mean a bad thing...though I'd agree I'd like to hear about the occasional INT or FF...

ChrisXVI · 07-30-2017, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I don't know, Chris, just because we're not hearing Vacarro's name doesn't mean a bad thing...though I'd agree I'd like to hear about the occasional INT or FF...

It's early still so you're right- it isn't necessarily a bad thing. I just worry a little bit that Marcus Williams may be our only safety who does well in zone and he's a rookie who will make mistakes.

jeanpierre · 07-30-2017, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

It's early still so you're right- it isn't necessarily a bad thing. I just worry a little bit that Marcus Williams may be our only safety who does well in zone and he's a rookie who will make mistakes.

You're right, it's early; and even Williams has struggled in Zone as well taking pore vectors in his pursuit angles...

It's like Klein said, a poor practice tape is a good learning tape; and they're doing this early so they have time to remedy...

AsylumGuido · 07-31-2017, 01:51 PM

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dizzle88 · 08-01-2017, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/jkatzenstein/sta...89241177608192

I'm cautious about Crawley, he did the exact same thing last training camp but couldn't make the plays in games where it truly counted.

spkb25 · 08-01-2017, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I'm cautious about Crawley, he did the exact same thing last training camp but couldn't make the plays in games where it truly counted.

We have to see who he is making the plays against, right? Like making star studded plays against 2nd and 3 string qb and receivers is not as impressive as against the first string guys

halloween 65 · 08-01-2017, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

We have to see who he is making the plays against, right? Like making star studded plays against 2nd and 3 string qb and receivers is not as impressive as against the first string guys

I do like Moore and Banjo. Tough players for the secondary. Our secondary has played like crap a few years, hurt or not, still like crap, no depth to speak of, hopefully this changes.

jeanpierre · 07-30-2017, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Kenny Vacarro has been nonexistent too so far in training camp. It's early still but all this cover 2 is square peg-round hole stuff.

I'll say this about Cover-2, don't know if it's the answer or more just better execution, but I'd thought we'd run more Cover 2 ...

...especially to stop this bullshinski the past couple of seasons of allowing waaaay too much 3rd and long conversions...

Crusader · 07-30-2017, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Kenny Vacarro has been nonexistent too so far in training camp. It's early still but all this cover 2 is square peg-round hole stuff.

Well there is this clip of him getting leveled by Warford...

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints secondary is aiming to be the strength of the defense Originally Posted by jeanpierre Marcus Williams (bad pursuit angles) and Vonn Bell (getting burnt deep) are having their problems early in training camp... I suspect they'll have some personal time with Dennis Allen, who's position specialty was safeties; Raphael Bush could always start as FS as well... We're running alot of two deep safety looks; I suspect that's also because of the LBer depth, talent level... Kenny Vacarro has been nonexistent too so far in training camp. It's early still but all this cover 2 is square peg-round hole stuff.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints secondary is aiming to be the strength of the defense Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Kenny Vacarro has been nonexistent too so far in training camp. It's early still but all this cover 2 is square peg-round hole stuff. I don't know, Chris, just because we're not hearing Vacarro's name doesn't mean a bad thing...though I'd agree I'd like to hear about the occasional INT or FF... nola_swammi and ChrisXVI like this.
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints secondary is aiming to be the strength of the defense Originally Posted by jeanpierre I don't know, Chris, just because we're not hearing Vacarro's name doesn't mean a bad thing...though I'd agree I'd like to hear about the occasional INT or FF... It's early still so you're right- it isn't necessarily a bad thing. I just worry a little bit that Marcus Williams may be our only safety who does well in zone and he's a rookie who will make mistakes.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints secondary is aiming to be the strength of the defense Originally Posted by ChrisXVI It's early still so you're right- it isn't necessarily a bad thing. I just worry a little bit that Marcus Williams may be our only safety who does well in zone and he's a rookie who will make mistakes. You're right, it's early; and even Williams has struggled in Zone as well taking pore vectors in his pursuit angles... It's like Klein said, a poor practice tape is a good learning tape; and they're doing this early so they have time to remedy...

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Saints secondary is aiming to be the strength of the defense Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/jkatzenstein/sta...89241177608192 I'm cautious about Crawley, he did the exact same thing last training camp but couldn't make the plays in games where it truly counted.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Saints secondary is aiming to be the strength of the defense Originally Posted by dizzle88 I'm cautious about Crawley, he did the exact same thing last training camp but couldn't make the plays in games where it truly counted. We have to see who he is making the plays against, right? Like making star studded plays against 2nd and 3 string qb and receivers is not as impressive as against the first string guys halloween 65 likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints secondary is aiming to be the strength of the defense Originally Posted by spkb25 We have to see who he is making the plays against, right? Like making star studded plays against 2nd and 3 string qb and receivers is not as impressive as against the first string guys I do like Moore and Banjo. Tough players for the secondary. Our secondary has played like crap a few years, hurt or not, still like crap, no depth to speak of, hopefully this changes. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints secondary is aiming to be the strength of the defense Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Kenny Vacarro has been nonexistent too so far in training camp. It's early still but all this cover 2 is square peg-round hole stuff. I'll say this about Cover-2, don't know if it's the answer or more just better execution, but I'd thought we'd run more Cover 2 ... ...especially to stop this bullshinski the past couple of seasons of allowing waaaay too much 3rd and long conversions... nutria likes this.

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,045	Re: Saints secondary is aiming to be the strength of the defense Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Kenny Vacarro has been nonexistent too so far in training camp. It's early still but all this cover 2 is square peg-round hole stuff. Well there is this clip of him getting leveled by Warford... Rugby Saint II, ChrisXVI and K Major like this.

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