Payton need to go?

hagan714 · 09-25-2017, 06:03 AM

The OL has final been addressed so wait till every one is healthy before throwing him under the bus.

neugey · 09-25-2017, 07:09 AM

What the team showed yesterday is perhaps we need to ride out the season and allow Payton to save his job. Maybe this was our wake up call, or it was Carolina not showing up. Not really sure. If we are 9-7 or better this year (it is a tough schedule) then that would be considerable progress.

AsylumGuido · 09-25-2017, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

This win today didn't change my mind. I am extremely disappointed in the front office and the coaching. The cap hits from all these celebrity FA signings have been out of completely out of control. Who makes these decisions? Is it Payton and Loomis? Does our scouting suck? Here are some recent names living in infamy: Jairus Byrd, Champ Bailey, C.J. Spiller, Brandon Browner. Wow.

Those were all pre Jeff Ireland if you would notice. The quality player acquisition since Ireland arrived has turned up several notches. By pointing out those players you are basically reinforcing how much better things are currently. Everything is pointing in the right direction. It would be foolish to derail the train once we have finally got it back on track.

jeanpierre · 09-27-2017, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Those were all pre Jeff Ireland if you would notice. The quality player acquisition since Ireland arrived has turned up several notches. By pointing out those players you are basically reinforcing how much better things are currently. Everything is pointing in the right direction. It would be foolish to derail the train once we have finally got it back on track.

Exactly. While Loomis/Payton still needs some more organization checks and balances to limit the personnel gaffes and buffoonery, we're not having 0-3 strikeouts in the drafts as we've had before...

And the rush to re-sign Fairley and then to face the consequences within a few days of not doing due diligence really gave cause for them to put checks and balances to save them from themselves (Payton/Loomis)...

You can not not look at this team and say the recent changes in draft process and positional coach hirings are not signs we're turning the corner...

Let's get healthier and play a few more games and make a judgement at the end of the season...

Crusader · 09-27-2017, 05:51 AM

The Fairly situation and also Breaux made them reconsider the medical partnerships so that point have been improved too.

Mardigras9 · 09-27-2017, 09:39 AM

In his press conference about the players sitting, he stated he loves and supports those players, so for me, that is biggest reason he can hit the road with them now.
Prior to this latest anthem fiasco, I read in another thread how he has lost his fire and drive and I think there is merit to that statement.

jeanpierre · 09-27-2017, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

The Fairly situation and also Breaux made them reconsider the medical partnerships so that point have been improved too.

See the problem there also was this unilateral decision to, first, use them, and, second, it was rubber stamp when Payton wanted a player without any other organization input to vet a player out completely...

Expediting those vetting processes and giving one man to much autonomy leads to these premature contracts that can hamstring a team; now we need another DT and we missed out in FA because we'd committed to Fairley...

SmashMouth · 11-19-2017, 03:52 PM

SO... how do you feel today?

spkb25 · 11-19-2017, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

SO... how do you feel today?

what bothers me are two threads on this board, Fire SP and Payton must go. Smash I need to see a little more faith out of you

09-25-2017, 06:03 AM	#201
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Payton need to go? The OL has final been addressed so wait till every one is healthy before throwing him under the bus.

09-25-2017, 07:09 AM	#202
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,716 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Payton need to go? What the team showed yesterday is perhaps we need to ride out the season and allow Payton to save his job. Maybe this was our wake up call, or it was Carolina not showing up. Not really sure. If we are 9-7 or better this year (it is a tough schedule) then that would be considerable progress.

09-25-2017, 08:25 AM	#203
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by WHODATINCA This win today didn't change my mind. I am extremely disappointed in the front office and the coaching. The cap hits from all these celebrity FA signings have been out of completely out of control. Who makes these decisions? Is it Payton and Loomis? Does our scouting suck? Here are some recent names living in infamy: Jairus Byrd, Champ Bailey, C.J. Spiller, Brandon Browner. Wow. Those were all pre Jeff Ireland if you would notice. The quality player acquisition since Ireland arrived has turned up several notches. By pointing out those players you are basically reinforcing how much better things are currently. Everything is pointing in the right direction. It would be foolish to derail the train once we have finally got it back on track. Crusader likes this.

09-27-2017, 04:48 AM	#204
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Those were all pre Jeff Ireland if you would notice. The quality player acquisition since Ireland arrived has turned up several notches. By pointing out those players you are basically reinforcing how much better things are currently. Everything is pointing in the right direction. It would be foolish to derail the train once we have finally got it back on track. Exactly. While Loomis/Payton still needs some more organization checks and balances to limit the personnel gaffes and buffoonery, we're not having 0-3 strikeouts in the drafts as we've had before... And the rush to re-sign Fairley and then to face the consequences within a few days of not doing due diligence really gave cause for them to put checks and balances to save them from themselves (Payton/Loomis)... You can not not look at this team and say the recent changes in draft process and positional coach hirings are not signs we're turning the corner... Let's get healthier and play a few more games and make a judgement at the end of the season...
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09-27-2017, 05:51 AM	#205
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Payton need to go? The Fairly situation and also Breaux made them reconsider the medical partnerships so that point have been improved too.

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09-27-2017, 09:39 AM	#206
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Payton need to go? In his press conference about the players sitting, he stated he loves and supports those players, so for me, that is biggest reason he can hit the road with them now. Prior to this latest anthem fiasco, I read in another thread how he has lost his fire and drive and I think there is merit to that statement.

09-27-2017, 11:03 PM	#207
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by Crusader The Fairly situation and also Breaux made them reconsider the medical partnerships so that point have been improved too. See the problem there also was this unilateral decision to, first, use them, and, second, it was rubber stamp when Payton wanted a player without any other organization input to vet a player out completely... Expediting those vetting processes and giving one man to much autonomy leads to these premature contracts that can hamstring a team; now we need another DT and we missed out in FA because we'd committed to Fairley...

11-19-2017, 03:52 PM	#208
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Payton need to go? SO... how do you feel today?

11-19-2017, 05:22 PM	#209
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Payton need to go? Originally Posted by SmashMouth SO... how do you feel today? what bothers me are two threads on this board, Fire SP and Payton must go. Smash I need to see a little more faith out of you

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