It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees

dizzle88 · 09-19-2017, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I agree and I too liked the Curtis signing again and I was glad we let go Vitt. I guess the point I am trying to make is that at some point we cannot keep firing everyone else. Spags went on to be successful again in NY. RR was a terrible signing then and now. DA I had hopes for, but at some point we just can't keep blaming everyone except SP (And I recognize you're not doing that). You're right, it has the feel he has lost the team. When you keep churning the same product year in and year out the HC has to be to blame. How many years does it take to rebuild to become at the very least competitive. We look the same as we have for what is now the fourth year. Matter of fact we look worse this year than last. At least so far. I am sure we will string together some wins and old 7-9 will get us back to his sweet spot and next year it will be cycle and repeat.

I'd rather see what someone else can do. 7-9 and no playoffs is no worse than 3-13 and no playoffs.

Any time we've called for SP to be fired the excuses come flying up.
One of the excuses was "who else is there?"

Which once again I'll turn to Oakland for my example, Jack Del rio did sweet f-all in Jacksonville for years due to management that kept his responsibilities in check.

Sean Payton has been given free reign to do whatever he wants and for results, look at the last 4 years.

Now Del Rio went to Oakland, formed a defensive that relies on front 4 pressure centered around Kalil Mack and has Derek Carr who is going to be a stud for years to come.

Now Del Rio has been in Oakland for 3 years I believe, he has turned them from a 3 win a year organisation, to a top 5 team and perennial playoff team.

All that in the time we have continually gone 7-9 and been unable to stop tripping over our own feet.

My main point is, when Oakland signed Del Rio, many fans thought "he wasn't that good in Jacksonville" and look what happened.

No one is irreplaceable, especially Payton.

neugey · 09-19-2017, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Any time we've called for SP to be fired the excuses come flying up.
One of the excuses was "who else is there?"

Right. I feel like for 3-4 years we resisted firing Payton out of fear. Fear that he would go to another team and be great for someone else.

Decisions made primarily out of fear usually aren't good ones.

09-19-2017, 07:08 AM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees Originally Posted by spkb25 I agree and I too liked the Curtis signing again and I was glad we let go Vitt. I guess the point I am trying to make is that at some point we cannot keep firing everyone else. Spags went on to be successful again in NY. RR was a terrible signing then and now. DA I had hopes for, but at some point we just can't keep blaming everyone except SP (And I recognize you're not doing that). You're right, it has the feel he has lost the team. When you keep churning the same product year in and year out the HC has to be to blame. How many years does it take to rebuild to become at the very least competitive. We look the same as we have for what is now the fourth year. Matter of fact we look worse this year than last. At least so far. I am sure we will string together some wins and old 7-9 will get us back to his sweet spot and next year it will be cycle and repeat. I'd rather see what someone else can do. 7-9 and no playoffs is no worse than 3-13 and no playoffs. Any time we've called for SP to be fired the excuses come flying up. One of the excuses was "who else is there?" Which once again I'll turn to Oakland for my example, Jack Del rio did sweet f-all in Jacksonville for years due to management that kept his responsibilities in check. Sean Payton has been given free reign to do whatever he wants and for results, look at the last 4 years. Now Del Rio went to Oakland, formed a defensive that relies on front 4 pressure centered around Kalil Mack and has Derek Carr who is going to be a stud for years to come. Now Del Rio has been in Oakland for 3 years I believe, he has turned them from a 3 win a year organisation, to a top 5 team and perennial playoff team. All that in the time we have continually gone 7-9 and been unable to stop tripping over our own feet. My main point is, when Oakland signed Del Rio, many fans thought "he wasn't that good in Jacksonville" and look what happened. No one is irreplaceable, especially Payton. spkb25 and rezburna like this.
	Your bonehead creator picked a fine chapter to omit from your memory bank....let me ask you, does a machine like yourself ever experience fear? - Vegeta, DBZ

09-19-2017, 07:17 AM	#2
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,876 Blog Entries: 13	Re: It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees Originally Posted by dizzle88 Any time we've called for SP to be fired the excuses come flying up. One of the excuses was "who else is there?" Right. I feel like for 3-4 years we resisted firing Payton out of fear. Fear that he would go to another team and be great for someone else. Decisions made primarily out of fear usually aren't good ones. rezburna likes this.

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