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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by spkb25 I agree and I too liked the Curtis signing again and I was glad we let go Vitt. I guess the point I am trying to make is that at some point we cannot keep firing ...
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09-19-2017, 08:08 AM | #41 |
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Re: It's time for the Saints to move on from Sean Payton and Drew Brees
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Any time we've called for SP to be fired the excuses come flying up.
One of the excuses was "who else is there?" Which once again I'll turn to Oakland for my example, Jack Del rio did sweet f-all in Jacksonville for years due to management that kept his responsibilities in check. Sean Payton has been given free reign to do whatever he wants and for results, look at the last 4 years. Now Del Rio went to Oakland, formed a defensive that relies on front 4 pressure centered around Kalil Mack and has Derek Carr who is going to be a stud for years to come. Now Del Rio has been in Oakland for 3 years I believe, he has turned them from a 3 win a year organisation, to a top 5 team and perennial playoff team. All that in the time we have continually gone 7-9 and been unable to stop tripping over our own feet. My main point is, when Oakland signed Del Rio, many fans thought "he wasn't that good in Jacksonville" and look what happened. No one is irreplaceable, especially Payton. |
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Originally Posted by dizzle88
Right. I feel like for 3-4 years we resisted firing Payton out of fear. Fear that he would go to another team and be great for someone else.
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
Thanks for pointing that out.
I also think the 'Brees doesn't want to go through a rebuild' narrative is a little presumptuous. Changing coaches is hardly a death sentence. The last two times we did it, we made the playoffs. Brees is loyal to Payton/Loomis but he also knows the NFL is a business. The rest of team needs and would benefit from his continued leadership. |
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Move on from Drew Brees, LOL, whatever.
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Originally Posted by spkb25
Agreed. Payton and Loomis are the common denominator, as far as I see it, and not much else is likely to work with them in place, given how things have been.
I do think we needed to make the changes we've made, and that DA is not the answer for our defense, but in order to get the right people in place and reinstate the kind of institutional control that you need to have to run a successful organization, it has to start at the top. No question. |
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