Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'

09-20-2017, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

... with his 129 yards from scrimmage over the first two games. He hasn't shown much so far.

Our own Alvin Kamara has 21 total yards from scrimmage through 2 games. Does that mean he is not a threat out of the slot ?

My point is that Kenny will probably match up well versus CM and he needs to limit missed assignments or it could be big day for the rookie out of the slot (see Dalvin Cook vs Saints wk1).

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2017, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Our own Alvin Kamara has 21 total yards from scrimmage through 2 games. Does that mean he is not a threat out of the slot ?

My point is that Kenny will probably match up well versus CM and he needs to limit missed assignments or it could be big day for the rookie out of the slot (see Dalvin Cook vs Saints wk1).

Actually, Kamara has 92 yards from scrimmage. He has 71 receiving.

And, yes, he should be a threat, but how well Newton can utilize him is questionable. He is basically the worst passing QB in the league. But, he is also the best RB playing QB in the league. But, teams have learned that and punish the crap out of him.

My concern isn't as great about the kid because of who he has distributing the ball.

darksoul35 · 09-20-2017, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If prescribed, yes.

That's what I don't get. All he has to do is go to his doctor and say that he has trouble concentrating and would probably be given a script. Why the hell would you not do that if you was going to take it?

hagan714 · 09-21-2017, 05:46 AM

he is great in the Box. He needs to get paid like a third safety. Need a true modern day SS to complement him and Williams

AsylumGuido · 09-21-2017, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

That's what I don't get. All he has to do is go to his doctor and say that he has trouble concentrating and would probably be given a script. Why the hell would you not do that if you was going to take it?

He said he took it one time to stay awake and alert. It was a mistake. He never took it routinely.

Here is an interview with ESPN ...

"To be honest, I just made a mistake," Vaccaro told ESPN in his first interview since the suspension.

Vaccaro said he did take Adderall, which is a stimulant banned by the NFL without a proper prescription. But he insisted it was not any kind of performance enhancer. He said he took it during the bye weekend as a pick-me-up when he was in Dallas to watch his former school, Texas, and his little brother Kevin play against Oklahoma in the Red River Rivalry.

"I was just tired and I really wasn't aware of the whole rule thing. The game's early in the morning, the state fair was going on," Vaccaro said. "I never took it before. I just did it, and it was just a dumb mistake by me, to be honest. And then I came back in Monday and had a random PED test. But that's the rules, and I take full responsibility.

"It wasn't worth it to get a little bit of energy to watch a game to come back and get a random PED test on a Monday. I mean, people can say it was unlucky, but I shouldn't have done it in the first place. But I don't take it, I don't have any problems. I just wanted to be up and alert. I don't take Adderall ever."

jeanpierre · 09-21-2017, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

... with his 129 yards from scrimmage over the first two games. He hasn't shown much so far.

Guido, how long have you been a Saints' fan?

Don't jinx it! That's usually when a rookie has his here I am party...

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AsylumGuido · 09-21-2017, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Guido, how long have you been a Saints' fan?

Don't jinx it! That's usually when a rookie has his here I am party...

Here I Am! - YouTube

I know, but I won't stop believin'.

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Supertek · 09-21-2017, 02:19 PM

I agree with the Doctor's prognosis about not being able to concentrate and stay alert. I just don't think we are doing many brain transplants right now. He has been average at the best of times and I don't thin Adderall is enough to do the job. Part of letting go is saying good bye to under achievers. Or do you think the Saints are dumb enough to pay Him ? See what we can get for a trade next year and let Williams/others play and learn.

K Major · 09-21-2017, 03:45 PM

In the meantime ...

jeanpierre · 09-21-2017, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Supertek

I agree with the Doctor's prognosis about not being able to concentrate and stay alert. I just don't think we are doing many brain transplants right now. He has been average at the best of times and I don't thin Adderall is enough to do the job. Part of letting go is saying good bye to under achievers. Or do you think the Saints are dumb enough to pay Him ? See what we can get for a trade next year and let Williams/others play and learn.

Here's the thing - what's on the FA market for 2018 and what's available in the draft? Is that better?

Would Bell or Bush, the latter not under contract for next season, be an improvement?

09-20-2017, 04:03 PM	#31
Threaded by K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido ... with his 129 yards from scrimmage over the first two games. He hasn't shown much so far. Our own Alvin Kamara has 21 total yards from scrimmage through 2 games. Does that mean he is not a threat out of the slot ? My point is that Kenny will probably match up well versus CM and he needs to limit missed assignments or it could be big day for the rookie out of the slot (see Dalvin Cook vs Saints wk1). hagan714 likes this.
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09-20-2017, 04:14 PM	#32
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by K Major Our own Alvin Kamara has 21 total yards from scrimmage through 2 games. Does that mean he is not a threat out of the slot ? My point is that Kenny will probably match up well versus CM and he needs to limit missed assignments or it could be big day for the rookie out of the slot (see Dalvin Cook vs Saints wk1). Actually, Kamara has 92 yards from scrimmage. He has 71 receiving. And, yes, he should be a threat, but how well Newton can utilize him is questionable. He is basically the worst passing QB in the league. But, he is also the best RB playing QB in the league. But, teams have learned that and punish the crap out of him. My concern isn't as great about the kid because of who he has distributing the ball. hagan714 likes this.

09-20-2017, 09:13 PM	#33
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,041	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If prescribed, yes. That's what I don't get. All he has to do is go to his doctor and say that he has trouble concentrating and would probably be given a script. Why the hell would you not do that if you was going to take it?
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09-21-2017, 05:46 AM	#34
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' he is great in the Box. He needs to get paid like a third safety. Need a true modern day SS to complement him and Williams

09-21-2017, 08:39 AM	#35
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by darksoul35 That's what I don't get. All he has to do is go to his doctor and say that he has trouble concentrating and would probably be given a script. Why the hell would you not do that if you was going to take it? He said he took it one time to stay awake and alert. It was a mistake. He never took it routinely. Here is an interview with ESPN ... "To be honest, I just made a mistake," Vaccaro told ESPN in his first interview since the suspension. Vaccaro said he did take Adderall, which is a stimulant banned by the NFL without a proper prescription. But he insisted it was not any kind of performance enhancer. He said he took it during the bye weekend as a pick-me-up when he was in Dallas to watch his former school, Texas, and his little brother Kevin play against Oklahoma in the Red River Rivalry. "I was just tired and I really wasn't aware of the whole rule thing. The game's early in the morning, the state fair was going on," Vaccaro said. "I never took it before. I just did it, and it was just a dumb mistake by me, to be honest. And then I came back in Monday and had a random PED test. But that's the rules, and I take full responsibility. "It wasn't worth it to get a little bit of energy to watch a game to come back and get a random PED test on a Monday. I mean, people can say it was unlucky, but I shouldn't have done it in the first place. But I don't take it, I don't have any problems. I just wanted to be up and alert. I don't take Adderall ever."
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09-21-2017, 02:19 PM	#38
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' I agree with the Doctor's prognosis about not being able to concentrate and stay alert. I just don't think we are doing many brain transplants right now. He has been average at the best of times and I don't thin Adderall is enough to do the job. Part of letting go is saying good bye to under achievers. Or do you think the Saints are dumb enough to pay Him ? See what we can get for a trade next year and let Williams/others play and learn.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me' Originally Posted by Supertek I agree with the Doctor's prognosis about not being able to concentrate and stay alert. I just don't think we are doing many brain transplants right now. He has been average at the best of times and I don't thin Adderall is enough to do the job. Part of letting go is saying good bye to under achievers. Or do you think the Saints are dumb enough to pay Him ? See what we can get for a trade next year and let Williams/others play and learn. Here's the thing - what's on the FA market for 2018 and what's available in the draft? Is that better? Would Bell or Bush, the latter not under contract for next season, be an improvement?

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