Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension

Ashley · 09-20-2017, 09:50 AM

I'm a saints fan.
Not a player fan. Now by saying that, would love brees to finish here with a ring. We are no where even close, I'm starting to fall in line with most here. Blow up the team, trade brees get as much as we can. He deserves another ring.Throw the top two outand start all over again.

Budsdrinker · 09-20-2017, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

He needs to just give it up here. If he signs then it's just all about the money. There really isn't much left for him here. We can't right this ship soon enough for him to still be any good. If I thought we were going to make huge strides in improvement this year then yea, I could see it but we aren't even close. Like Payton he's just going to ride this cash cow as long as he can.
If Payton were to leave it's a different story but as long as he is here nothing is going to change.
Find a young QB in the first round and build a line around him and give him time for the defense to get good enough to help him out.
M

So what exactly would you like to see happen? The Browns or Texans QB situation while we try to build a defense? I prefer seeing one of the greatest and future hall of fame QBs on our team as long as he can perform at an elite level which he still can. What young QB do you see available right now? I much prefer not having to worry about the QB position right now like we did in the days of Scott, Douglas, Wilson, Todd, the 2 Billy Joes and the lists goes on. We had one of the best defenses in the league with the Dome Patrol but still would lose because we didn't have a QB and offense. No disrespect to you but I just don't understand the willingness to want to let go one of the greatest Saints players ever unless he wants to leave which I doubt.

73Saint · 09-20-2017, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You speak the truth, but some refuse to listen. Even when the story is over a year old.

I was looking for the date on the tweet and didnt see it but my heart was in the right place. thx for pointing it out

hagan714 · 09-20-2017, 11:52 AM

Drew Brees cap hit of $25 million or about 15% of the cap?

That is a killer to be honest.

Lets clear some cap

kenny Vaccaro = 4 yrs, $21million?

Coby Fleener
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap

Thomas Morstead
Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap

Mark Ingram.
Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap

lets look to 2019

Terron Armstead
Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap

Nick Fairley
Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap

I guess we have our draft strategy

SS TE P RB OT DE

Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.53 #5 Jr
Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin 6054 249 4.84 #81 rSr
Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198
JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr
Bentley Span OT/OG N Carolina 6056 300 5.04 #75 Sr
B.J. Hill DT NC State 6031 300 4.94

Utah_Saint · 09-20-2017, 12:16 PM

2017 Cap hit

Joe Flacco, Baltimore, $24.55 million
Carson Palmer, Arizona, $24.125 million
Kirk Cousins, Washington, $23.943 million
Matt Ryan, Atlanta, $23.75 million
Matthew Stafford, Detroit, $22 million
Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay, $20.3 million
Cam Newton, Carolina, $20.166 million
Philip Rivers, Los Angeles Chargers, $20 million
Eli Manning, N.Y. Giants, $19.7 million
Andrew Luck, Indianapolis, $19.4 million
Drew Brees, New Orleans, $19 million
Russell Wilson, Seattle, $18.8 million
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh, $18.2 million
Sam Bradford, Minnesota, $18 million
Alex Smith, Kansas City, $16.9 million
Derek Carr, Oakland, $15.7 million
Andy Dalton, Cincinnati, $15.7 million
Tom Brady, New England, $14 million
Mike Glennon, Chicago, $14 million
Jay Cutler, Miami, $10 million
Tyrod Taylor, Buffalo, $9.7 million
Jameis Winston, Tampa Bay, $6.9 million
Marcus Mariota, Tennessee, $6.6 million
Blake Bortles, Jacksonville, $6.57 million
Josh McCown, N.Y. Jets, $6.5 million
Jared Goff, L.A. Rams, $6.4 million
Carson Wentz, Philadelphia, $6 million
Brian Hoyer, San Francisco, $5.3 million
DeShone Kizer, Cleveland, $899,711
Tom Savage, Houston, $765,146
Dak Prescott, Dallas, $635,848
Trever Simian, Denver, $628,196

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2017

NFL Salary Rankings | Spotrac

Drew's cap hit doesn't look that bad when you compare it to the rest of the league. Quarterbacks are expensive.

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2017, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Drew Brees cap hit of $25 million or about 15% of the cap?

That is a killer to be honest.

Lets clear some cap

kenny Vaccaro = 4 yrs, $21million?

Coby Fleener
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap

Thomas Morstead
Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap

Mark Ingram.
Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap

lets look to 2019

Terron Armstead
Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap

Nick Fairley
Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap

I guess we have our draft strategy

SS TE P RB OT DE

Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.53 #5 Jr
Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin 6054 249 4.84 #81 rSr
Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198
JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr
Bentley Span OT/OG N Carolina 6056 300 5.04 #75 Sr
B.J. Hill DT NC State 6031 300 4.94

Based upon the estimated 2018 cap it is closer to 14% which has been around the average for QB's in the NFL for the past decade. That isn't a killer, it is the norm. It would only be a killer if the QB sucked. It is a bargain for an elite QB.

SmashMouth · 09-20-2017, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

2017 Cap hit

Joe Flacco, Baltimore, $24.55 million
Carson Palmer, Arizona, $24.125 million
Kirk Cousins, Washington, $23.943 million
Matt Ryan, Atlanta, $23.75 million
Matthew Stafford, Detroit, $22 million
Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay, $20.3 million
Cam Newton, Carolina, $20.166 million
Philip Rivers, Los Angeles Chargers, $20 million
Eli Manning, N.Y. Giants, $19.7 million
Andrew Luck, Indianapolis, $19.4 million
Drew Brees, New Orleans, $19 million
Russell Wilson, Seattle, $18.8 million
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh, $18.2 million
Sam Bradford, Minnesota, $18 million
Alex Smith, Kansas City, $16.9 million
Derek Carr, Oakland, $15.7 million
Andy Dalton, Cincinnati, $15.7 million
Tom Brady, New England, $14 million
Mike Glennon, Chicago, $14 million
Jay Cutler, Miami, $10 million
Tyrod Taylor, Buffalo, $9.7 million
Jameis Winston, Tampa Bay, $6.9 million
Marcus Mariota, Tennessee, $6.6 million
Blake Bortles, Jacksonville, $6.57 million
Josh McCown, N.Y. Jets, $6.5 million
Jared Goff, L.A. Rams, $6.4 million
Carson Wentz, Philadelphia, $6 million
Brian Hoyer, San Francisco, $5.3 million
DeShone Kizer, Cleveland, $899,711
Tom Savage, Houston, $765,146
Dak Prescott, Dallas, $635,848
Trever Simian, Denver, $628,196

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2017

NFL Salary Rankings | Spotrac

Drew's cap hit doesn't look that bad when you compare it to the rest of the league. Quarterbacks are expensive.

... and Trevor Simian for the win? Ridiculous cap figure! Is Denver winning any games this year with a QB with such a low cap?

Rugby Saint II · 09-20-2017, 02:34 PM

Drew Is Not The Problem! You want to keep the face of the franchise as long as possible. Especially when he's still playing at an elite level.

NOLA54 · 09-20-2017, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

The saints have been discussing a 4 year 40 million extension for SP. It's a banner year

I hope this is a joke.

NOLA54 · 09-20-2017, 02:53 PM

The reason Green Bay traded Favre was because they had Rodgers waiting in the wings. We have know one behind Brees. Let the man finish his career a Saint.

09-20-2017, 09:50 AM	#21
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension I'm a saints fan. Not a player fan. Now by saying that, would love brees to finish here with a ring. We are no where even close, I'm starting to fall in line with most here. Blow up the team, trade brees get as much as we can. He deserves another ring.Throw the top two outand start all over again.

09-20-2017, 10:21 AM	#22
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension Originally Posted by The Dude He needs to just give it up here. If he signs then it's just all about the money. There really isn't much left for him here. We can't right this ship soon enough for him to still be any good. If I thought we were going to make huge strides in improvement this year then yea, I could see it but we aren't even close. Like Payton he's just going to ride this cash cow as long as he can. If Payton were to leave it's a different story but as long as he is here nothing is going to change. Find a young QB in the first round and build a line around him and give him time for the defense to get good enough to help him out. M So what exactly would you like to see happen? The Browns or Texans QB situation while we try to build a defense? I prefer seeing one of the greatest and future hall of fame QBs on our team as long as he can perform at an elite level which he still can. What young QB do you see available right now? I much prefer not having to worry about the QB position right now like we did in the days of Scott, Douglas, Wilson, Todd, the 2 Billy Joes and the lists goes on. We had one of the best defenses in the league with the Dome Patrol but still would lose because we didn't have a QB and offense. No disrespect to you but I just don't understand the willingness to want to let go one of the greatest Saints players ever unless he wants to leave which I doubt. Papa Voodoo, AsylumGuido, Rugby Saint II and 2 others like this.

09-20-2017, 10:56 AM	#23
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You speak the truth, but some refuse to listen. Even when the story is over a year old. I was looking for the date on the tweet and didnt see it but my heart was in the right place. thx for pointing it out

09-20-2017, 11:52 AM	#24
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension Drew Brees cap hit of $25 million or about 15% of the cap? That is a killer to be honest. Lets clear some cap kenny Vaccaro = 4 yrs, $21million? Coby Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap Thomas Morstead Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap Mark Ingram. Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap lets look to 2019 Terron Armstead Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap Nick Fairley Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap I guess we have our draft strategy SS TE P RB OT DE Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.53 #5 Jr Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin 6054 249 4.84 #81 rSr Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198 JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr Bentley Span OT/OG N Carolina 6056 300 5.04 #75 Sr B.J. Hill DT NC State 6031 300 4.94
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09-20-2017, 12:16 PM	#25
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension 2017 Cap hit Joe Flacco, Baltimore, $24.55 million Carson Palmer, Arizona, $24.125 million Kirk Cousins, Washington, $23.943 million Matt Ryan, Atlanta, $23.75 million Matthew Stafford, Detroit, $22 million Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay, $20.3 million Cam Newton, Carolina, $20.166 million Philip Rivers, Los Angeles Chargers, $20 million Eli Manning, N.Y. Giants, $19.7 million Andrew Luck, Indianapolis, $19.4 million Drew Brees, New Orleans, $19 million Russell Wilson, Seattle, $18.8 million Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh, $18.2 million Sam Bradford, Minnesota, $18 million Alex Smith, Kansas City, $16.9 million Derek Carr, Oakland, $15.7 million Andy Dalton, Cincinnati, $15.7 million Tom Brady, New England, $14 million Mike Glennon, Chicago, $14 million Jay Cutler, Miami, $10 million Tyrod Taylor, Buffalo, $9.7 million Jameis Winston, Tampa Bay, $6.9 million Marcus Mariota, Tennessee, $6.6 million Blake Bortles, Jacksonville, $6.57 million Josh McCown, N.Y. Jets, $6.5 million Jared Goff, L.A. Rams, $6.4 million Carson Wentz, Philadelphia, $6 million Brian Hoyer, San Francisco, $5.3 million DeShone Kizer, Cleveland, $899,711 Tom Savage, Houston, $765,146 Dak Prescott, Dallas, $635,848 Trever Simian, Denver, $628,196 https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2017 NFL Salary Rankings \| Spotrac Drew's cap hit doesn't look that bad when you compare it to the rest of the league. Quarterbacks are expensive. mleg1972, AsylumGuido and darksoul35 like this.

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09-20-2017, 12:21 PM	#26
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension Originally Posted by hagan714 Drew Brees cap hit of $25 million or about 15% of the cap? That is a killer to be honest. Lets clear some cap kenny Vaccaro = 4 yrs, $21million? Coby Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap Thomas Morstead Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap Mark Ingram. Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap lets look to 2019 Terron Armstead Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap Nick Fairley Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap I guess we have our draft strategy SS TE P RB OT DE Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.53 #5 Jr Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin 6054 249 4.84 #81 rSr Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198 JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr Bentley Span OT/OG N Carolina 6056 300 5.04 #75 Sr B.J. Hill DT NC State 6031 300 4.94 Based upon the estimated 2018 cap it is closer to 14% which has been around the average for QB's in the NFL for the past decade. That isn't a killer, it is the norm. It would only be a killer if the QB sucked. It is a bargain for an elite QB. hagan714 likes this.

09-20-2017, 12:34 PM	#27
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension Originally Posted by Utah_Saint 2017 Cap hit Joe Flacco, Baltimore, $24.55 million Carson Palmer, Arizona, $24.125 million Kirk Cousins, Washington, $23.943 million Matt Ryan, Atlanta, $23.75 million Matthew Stafford, Detroit, $22 million Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay, $20.3 million Cam Newton, Carolina, $20.166 million Philip Rivers, Los Angeles Chargers, $20 million Eli Manning, N.Y. Giants, $19.7 million Andrew Luck, Indianapolis, $19.4 million Drew Brees, New Orleans, $19 million Russell Wilson, Seattle, $18.8 million Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh, $18.2 million Sam Bradford, Minnesota, $18 million Alex Smith, Kansas City, $16.9 million Derek Carr, Oakland, $15.7 million Andy Dalton, Cincinnati, $15.7 million Tom Brady, New England, $14 million Mike Glennon, Chicago, $14 million Jay Cutler, Miami, $10 million Tyrod Taylor, Buffalo, $9.7 million Jameis Winston, Tampa Bay, $6.9 million Marcus Mariota, Tennessee, $6.6 million Blake Bortles, Jacksonville, $6.57 million Josh McCown, N.Y. Jets, $6.5 million Jared Goff, L.A. Rams, $6.4 million Carson Wentz, Philadelphia, $6 million Brian Hoyer, San Francisco, $5.3 million DeShone Kizer, Cleveland, $899,711 Tom Savage, Houston, $765,146 Dak Prescott, Dallas, $635,848 Trever Simian, Denver, $628,196 https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2017 NFL Salary Rankings \| Spotrac Drew's cap hit doesn't look that bad when you compare it to the rest of the league. Quarterbacks are expensive. ... and Trevor Simian for the win? Ridiculous cap figure! Is Denver winning any games this year with a QB with such a low cap? Papa Voodoo likes this.

09-20-2017, 02:34 PM	#28
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension Drew Is Not The Problem! You want to keep the face of the franchise as long as possible. Especially when he's still playing at an elite level. Papa Voodoo likes this.

09-20-2017, 02:50 PM	#29
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension Originally Posted by spkb25 The saints have been discussing a 4 year 40 million extension for SP. It's a banner year I hope this is a joke.

09-20-2017, 02:53 PM	#30
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension The reason Green Bay traded Favre was because they had Rodgers waiting in the wings. We have know one behind Brees. Let the man finish his career a Saint. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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