Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension

SmashMouth · 09-20-2017, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Did any of you look at the date on that LaCanfora tweet?

9:06 AM - Sep 5, 2016

Sheesh. There are no talks about a long term extension because Brees wants year to year deals just like Manning had over the final few years of his career. They have the same agent. He says he wants the freedom to retire when he is ready.

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice...

Meanwhile is this a picture of LaCanfora?

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2017, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice...

Meanwhile is this a picture of LaCanfora?

It took me ten seconds because I actually read the entire post instead of hurrying to type a response.

And, yes, that looks just like LaCanfora.

frydaddy · 09-20-2017, 07:39 AM

So I get that we still suck and everyone is upset about it. Losing is depressing and we do a lot of it. But to those of you saying Brees should leave I have to ask wtf is wrong with you? Step out from under the dark cloud and realize that letting the best player to ever wear a Saints uniform just walk away isn't going to make us better. And no, we cannot trade him because he has a NO TRADE CLAUSE IN HIS CONTRACT. Seriously guys, I have seen that info posted on here countless times and some of you just gloss right over it. He.won't.be.traded, so get that idea out of your head. If the man is willing to stay and put up with the BS why the hell do you want him gone so badly? He looks as good as ever, he's not the problem. I want him here to help right the ship again, so that the next QB doesn't inherit this dumpster fire. I've seen dozens of young QB's careers derailed before they even had a chance because they ended up with a team devoid of talent and the whole mess is put on their shoulders. That's the kind of decision making that can set a franchise adrift for many many years. We're in bad shape now, and maybe Payton does need to go, that will work itself out one way or another, but Drew leaving helps no one but the next team he plays for. Drew is not the problem. Repeat after me, Drew is not the problem.

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2017, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

So I get that we still suck and everyone is upset about it. Losing is depressing and we do a lot of it. But to those of you saying Brees should leave I have to ask wtf is wrong with you? Step out from under the dark cloud and realize that letting the best player to ever wear a Saints uniform just walk away isn't going to make us better. And no, we cannot trade him because he has a NO TRADE CLAUSE IN HIS CONTRACT. Seriously guys, I have seen that info posted on here countless times and some of you just gloss right over it. He.won't.be.traded, so get that idea out of your head. If the man is willing to stay and put up with the BS why the hell do you want him gone so badly? He looks as good as ever, he's not the problem. I want him here to help right the ship again, so that the next QB doesn't inherit this dumpster fire. I've seen dozens of young QB's careers derailed before they even had a chance because they ended up with a team devoid of talent and the whole mess is put on their shoulders. That's the kind of decision making that can set a franchise adrift for many many years. We're in bad shape now, and maybe Payton does need to go, that will work itself out one way or another, but Drew leaving helps no one but the next team he plays for. Drew is not the problem. Repeat after me, Drew is not the problem.

You speak the truth, but some refuse to listen. Even when the story is over a year old.

73Saint · 09-20-2017, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You speak the truth, but some refuse to listen. Even when the story is over a year old.

I was looking for the date on the tweet and didnt see it but my heart was in the right place. thx for pointing it out

Cruize · 09-20-2017, 08:47 AM

I would go 3 year $75 million. First two years fully guaranteed. His 39th and 40th years. If he can still play and wants to be a Saint in year three, pay the man.

Ashley · 09-20-2017, 08:50 AM

I'm a saints fan.
Not a player fan. Now by saying that, would love brees to finish here with a ring. We are no where even close, I'm starting to fall in line with most here. Blow up the team, trade brees get as much as we can. He deserves another ring.Throw the top two outand start all over again.

hagan714 · 09-20-2017, 10:52 AM

Drew Brees cap hit of $25 million or about 15% of the cap?

That is a killer to be honest.

Lets clear some cap

kenny Vaccaro = 4 yrs, $21million?

Coby Fleener
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap

Thomas Morstead
Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap

Mark Ingram.
Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap

lets look to 2019

Terron Armstead
Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap

Nick Fairley
Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap

I guess we have our draft strategy

SS TE P RB OT DE

Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.53 #5 Jr
Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin 6054 249 4.84 #81 rSr
Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198
JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr
Bentley Span OT/OG N Carolina 6056 300 5.04 #75 Sr
B.J. Hill DT NC State 6031 300 4.94

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2017, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Drew Brees cap hit of $25 million or about 15% of the cap?

That is a killer to be honest.

Lets clear some cap

kenny Vaccaro = 4 yrs, $21million?

Coby Fleener
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap

Thomas Morstead
Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap

Mark Ingram.
Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap

lets look to 2019

Terron Armstead
Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap

Nick Fairley
Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap

I guess we have our draft strategy

SS TE P RB OT DE

Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.53 #5 Jr
Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin 6054 249 4.84 #81 rSr
Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198
JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr
Bentley Span OT/OG N Carolina 6056 300 5.04 #75 Sr
B.J. Hill DT NC State 6031 300 4.94

Based upon the estimated 2018 cap it is closer to 14% which has been around the average for QB's in the NFL for the past decade. That isn't a killer, it is the norm. It would only be a killer if the QB sucked. It is a bargain for an elite QB.

Utah_Saint · 09-20-2017, 11:16 AM

2017 Cap hit

Joe Flacco, Baltimore, $24.55 million
Carson Palmer, Arizona, $24.125 million
Kirk Cousins, Washington, $23.943 million
Matt Ryan, Atlanta, $23.75 million
Matthew Stafford, Detroit, $22 million
Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay, $20.3 million
Cam Newton, Carolina, $20.166 million
Philip Rivers, Los Angeles Chargers, $20 million
Eli Manning, N.Y. Giants, $19.7 million
Andrew Luck, Indianapolis, $19.4 million
Drew Brees, New Orleans, $19 million
Russell Wilson, Seattle, $18.8 million
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh, $18.2 million
Sam Bradford, Minnesota, $18 million
Alex Smith, Kansas City, $16.9 million
Derek Carr, Oakland, $15.7 million
Andy Dalton, Cincinnati, $15.7 million
Tom Brady, New England, $14 million
Mike Glennon, Chicago, $14 million
Jay Cutler, Miami, $10 million
Tyrod Taylor, Buffalo, $9.7 million
Jameis Winston, Tampa Bay, $6.9 million
Marcus Mariota, Tennessee, $6.6 million
Blake Bortles, Jacksonville, $6.57 million
Josh McCown, N.Y. Jets, $6.5 million
Jared Goff, L.A. Rams, $6.4 million
Carson Wentz, Philadelphia, $6 million
Brian Hoyer, San Francisco, $5.3 million
DeShone Kizer, Cleveland, $899,711
Tom Savage, Houston, $765,146
Dak Prescott, Dallas, $635,848
Trever Simian, Denver, $628,196

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2017

NFL Salary Rankings | Spotrac

Drew's cap hit doesn't look that bad when you compare it to the rest of the league. Quarterbacks are expensive.

09-20-2017, 08:16 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension Originally Posted by SmashMouth I was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice... Meanwhile is this a picture of LaCanfora? It took me ten seconds because I actually read the entire post instead of hurrying to type a response. And, yes, that looks just like LaCanfora.

09-20-2017, 07:39 AM	#3
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,952 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension So I get that we still suck and everyone is upset about it. Losing is depressing and we do a lot of it. But to those of you saying Brees should leave I have to ask wtf is wrong with you? Step out from under the dark cloud and realize that letting the best player to ever wear a Saints uniform just walk away isn't going to make us better. And no, we cannot trade him because he has a NO TRADE CLAUSE IN HIS CONTRACT. Seriously guys, I have seen that info posted on here countless times and some of you just gloss right over it. He.won't.be.traded, so get that idea out of your head. If the man is willing to stay and put up with the BS why the hell do you want him gone so badly? He looks as good as ever, he's not the problem. I want him here to help right the ship again, so that the next QB doesn't inherit this dumpster fire. I've seen dozens of young QB's careers derailed before they even had a chance because they ended up with a team devoid of talent and the whole mess is put on their shoulders. That's the kind of decision making that can set a franchise adrift for many many years. We're in bad shape now, and maybe Payton does need to go, that will work itself out one way or another, but Drew leaving helps no one but the next team he plays for. Drew is not the problem. Repeat after me, Drew is not the problem. SaintFanInATLHELL, jnormand, Budsdrinker and 3 others like this.
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09-20-2017, 07:42 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension Originally Posted by frydaddy So I get that we still suck and everyone is upset about it. Losing is depressing and we do a lot of it. But to those of you saying Brees should leave I have to ask wtf is wrong with you? Step out from under the dark cloud and realize that letting the best player to ever wear a Saints uniform just walk away isn't going to make us better. And no, we cannot trade him because he has a NO TRADE CLAUSE IN HIS CONTRACT. Seriously guys, I have seen that info posted on here countless times and some of you just gloss right over it. He.won't.be.traded, so get that idea out of your head. If the man is willing to stay and put up with the BS why the hell do you want him gone so badly? He looks as good as ever, he's not the problem. I want him here to help right the ship again, so that the next QB doesn't inherit this dumpster fire. I've seen dozens of young QB's careers derailed before they even had a chance because they ended up with a team devoid of talent and the whole mess is put on their shoulders. That's the kind of decision making that can set a franchise adrift for many many years. We're in bad shape now, and maybe Payton does need to go, that will work itself out one way or another, but Drew leaving helps no one but the next team he plays for. Drew is not the problem. Repeat after me, Drew is not the problem. You speak the truth, but some refuse to listen. Even when the story is over a year old. 73Saint likes this.

09-20-2017, 08:47 AM	#6
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension I would go 3 year $75 million. First two years fully guaranteed. His 39th and 40th years. If he can still play and wants to be a Saint in year three, pay the man.
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09-20-2017, 10:52 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension Drew Brees cap hit of $25 million or about 15% of the cap? That is a killer to be honest. Lets clear some cap kenny Vaccaro = 4 yrs, $21million? Coby Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap Thomas Morstead Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap Mark Ingram. Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap lets look to 2019 Terron Armstead Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap Nick Fairley Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap I guess we have our draft strategy SS TE P RB OT DE Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.53 #5 Jr Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin 6054 249 4.84 #81 rSr Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198 JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr Bentley Span OT/OG N Carolina 6056 300 5.04 #75 Sr B.J. Hill DT NC State 6031 300 4.94
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins Last edited by hagan714; 09-20-2017 at 11:07 AM..

09-20-2017, 08:11 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Did any of you look at the date on that LaCanfora tweet? 9:06 AM - Sep 5, 2016 Sheesh. There are no talks about a long term extension because Brees wants year to year deals just like Manning had over the final few years of his career. They have the same agent. He says he wants the freedom to retire when he is ready. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice... Meanwhile is this a picture of LaCanfora? jeanpierre likes this.

09-20-2017, 09:56 AM	#5
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You speak the truth, but some refuse to listen. Even when the story is over a year old. I was looking for the date on the tweet and didnt see it but my heart was in the right place. thx for pointing it out

09-20-2017, 08:50 AM	#7
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension I'm a saints fan. Not a player fan. Now by saying that, would love brees to finish here with a ring. We are no where even close, I'm starting to fall in line with most here. Blow up the team, trade brees get as much as we can. He deserves another ring.Throw the top two outand start all over again.

09-20-2017, 11:21 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension Originally Posted by hagan714 Drew Brees cap hit of $25 million or about 15% of the cap? That is a killer to be honest. Lets clear some cap kenny Vaccaro = 4 yrs, $21million? Coby Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap Thomas Morstead Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap Mark Ingram. Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap lets look to 2019 Terron Armstead Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap Nick Fairley Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap I guess we have our draft strategy SS TE P RB OT DE Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.53 #5 Jr Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin 6054 249 4.84 #81 rSr Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198 JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr Bentley Span OT/OG N Carolina 6056 300 5.04 #75 Sr B.J. Hill DT NC State 6031 300 4.94 Based upon the estimated 2018 cap it is closer to 14% which has been around the average for QB's in the NFL for the past decade. That isn't a killer, it is the norm. It would only be a killer if the QB sucked. It is a bargain for an elite QB. hagan714 likes this.

09-20-2017, 11:16 AM	#10
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension 2017 Cap hit Joe Flacco, Baltimore, $24.55 million Carson Palmer, Arizona, $24.125 million Kirk Cousins, Washington, $23.943 million Matt Ryan, Atlanta, $23.75 million Matthew Stafford, Detroit, $22 million Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay, $20.3 million Cam Newton, Carolina, $20.166 million Philip Rivers, Los Angeles Chargers, $20 million Eli Manning, N.Y. Giants, $19.7 million Andrew Luck, Indianapolis, $19.4 million Drew Brees, New Orleans, $19 million Russell Wilson, Seattle, $18.8 million Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh, $18.2 million Sam Bradford, Minnesota, $18 million Alex Smith, Kansas City, $16.9 million Derek Carr, Oakland, $15.7 million Andy Dalton, Cincinnati, $15.7 million Tom Brady, New England, $14 million Mike Glennon, Chicago, $14 million Jay Cutler, Miami, $10 million Tyrod Taylor, Buffalo, $9.7 million Jameis Winston, Tampa Bay, $6.9 million Marcus Mariota, Tennessee, $6.6 million Blake Bortles, Jacksonville, $6.57 million Josh McCown, N.Y. Jets, $6.5 million Jared Goff, L.A. Rams, $6.4 million Carson Wentz, Philadelphia, $6 million Brian Hoyer, San Francisco, $5.3 million DeShone Kizer, Cleveland, $899,711 Tom Savage, Houston, $765,146 Dak Prescott, Dallas, $635,848 Trever Simian, Denver, $628,196 https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2017 NFL Salary Rankings \| Spotrac Drew's cap hit doesn't look that bad when you compare it to the rest of the league. Quarterbacks are expensive. mleg1972, AsylumGuido and darksoul35 like this.

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