2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

K Major · 01-16-2018, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

TI’m now convinced that he would be a perfect fit in Vaccaro’s role should we decide to move on from him.

Decisions, decisions.

K Major · 01-16-2018, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Virginia Tech runs some weird variation of a 4-6 defense so I’m not really even sure what you would call Edmunds lol. There’s times where he’s a Mike and other times he’s an edge rusher. All I know is that he’s 6’5”, 250 lbs and fundamentally excellent as a tackler.

I really just want a LB that strikes fear into people.

Chris, thanks for this post and I'd like to expound on this if I may.

Edmunds appears to be a freak (size, range, speed) but honestly if he doesn't have the instincts, it really doesn't matter because if you are that big and strong moving in the wrong direction, what exactly does that do for us?

Over the years, I'm really starting to notice that when evaluating at the LB position, instincts should be FIRST, speed, size second. I think this could possibly be a reason what got Stephone Anthony over drafted

. If you review SA college tape, you couldn't tell he was a 4.57 runner (red flag) out of the gate. When kids times faster than they look on their tape ... I'm curious to know what's up. Generally, it possibly indicates that their process is slow but in a B line, he's Carl Lewis.

I'm looking at guys whose tape looks fast. Deion Jones was fast at LSU, Kuechly at BC, Vilma at Miami, Wagner at Utah St etc.

Thoughts?

jeanpierre · 01-16-2018, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Needs in the draft or FA
DE (need a beast opposite of Cam)
DT (pass rushing)
WR/TE (big physical player that is a threat)

Really wanted us to grab Campbell, and man that would have been huge. I like Okafor but he has a history of injuries we likely need an upgrade. I would love for Jimmy G to come back, think he solved a lot of issues on O.

Our LBs are set we just need them to stay healthy, same with our DBs.

Originally Posted by K Major

Set at the linebacker position B&G? We desperately need SPEED at the MIKE. Anzalone is supposed to fill this need however you can't count on him as this (injuries) was the knock coming out of FL. Assuming he does come back, we are still thin at the position. It's time to get ELITE at the position. Robertson, Klein etc are solid but not game changers. We were close with Reuben Foster (when healthy, he is as good as advertised) in last year's draft.

Kuechly, David, Debo Jones, Barr, Kendrick types are necessary in NO.

There's no way we're set at LBer when we just started a guy in a playoff game we signed off the street six weeks ago...

True, we've an obscene amount of IRs, particularly at the LBer position; plus we traded a Anthony that DA was unable to redeem...

Now I'm more optimistic that Anzalone will get better medical care and will strengthen for the rigors of an NFL Season...

At the minimum, I'd like to see us get a 3-Down Mike and keep a seventh LBer on the roster:

WLB - Anzalone, Stupar

MLB - (TBA), Robertson, (TBA)

SLB - Klein, Mauti

ChrisXVI · 01-16-2018, 02:39 PM

A good Mike LB prospect that could be had in the middle rounds:

Chris Worley, OLB, Ohio State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 230.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Projected Round (2018): 4-6

He went to Glenville High School in Cleveland just like Marshon Lattimore, Ted Ginn Jr and Justin Hardee. We could continue the pipeline.

Rugby Saint II · 01-16-2018, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

There's no way we're set at LBer when we just started a guy in a playoff game we signed off the street six weeks ago...

True, we've an obscene amount of IRs, particularly at the LBer position; plus we traded a Anthony that DA was unable to redeem...

Now I'm more optimistic that Anzalone will get better medical care and will strengthen for the rigors of an NFL Season...

At the minimum, I'd like to see us get a 3-Down Mike and keep a seventh LBer on the roster:

WLB - Anzalone, Stupar

MLB - (TBA), Robertson, (TBA)

SLB - Klein, Mauti

Uhhhmmmm.......what no Teo?

Crusader · 01-16-2018, 04:56 PM

Yeah I'd rather keep Teo than Mauti or Stupar.

K Major · 01-16-2018, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Yeah I'd rather keep Teo than Mauti or Stupar.

Crusader, you're absolutely right about Teo' and I didn't mean to leave him out. This was a really good FA signing. Quality depth and he was a dawg against the run.

Crusader · 01-16-2018, 05:37 PM

I have no problem admitting Teo' exceeded all expectations I had for him. I honestly thought he'd be injured and cut by the end of camp. Glad to be pleasantly surprised.

hagan714 · 01-16-2018, 06:32 PM

Round 1

Not there yet

Round 2 = Alvin Kamara Trade 49ers

Round 3

Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr

Round 4

Levi Wallace CB Alanama 5111 185 4.42 #39 Sr

Round 5 = Stephone Anthony Trade Miami

Fred Warner DE/OLB BYU 6025 228 4.68 #4 Sr
Marcus Baugh TE Ohio State 6041 250 4.84 #85 rSr

Round 6 = Adrian Peterson trade Cardnials

Davontae Harris CB/FS Illinois St 5111 200 4.50 #10 Sr
Chris Worley ILB OSU 6015 230 4.67 #35 rSr

Round 7 = Jalen Saunders Trade Patriots?

Ranthony Texada CB/KR TCU 5095 176 4.30 #11 rSr

Top UDFA
Ike Boettger OT/TE Iowa 6046 307 5.02 #75 rSr
Coleman Shelton C/OG Washington 6041 293 5.08 rSr
Jamal Morrow, RB, Washington State 5085 180 4.54 #25 rSr
Ethan Wolfe TE Tennessee 6045 245 4.86 #82 Sr
Jaylen Dunlap FS/CB/SS Illinois 6002 190 4.45 #1 rSr
Deion Harris CB North Dakota 6015 182 4.50 #19 Sr
Austin Golson C/OG/OT Auburn 6043 312 5.23 #73 rSr
Jamar Summers CB/FS Connecticut 5116 185 4.44 #21 Sr

Will he or wont he come out?
?Jamal Peters S/CB Mississippi State 6016 218 4.55 #2 Jr ?

ChrisXVI · 01-16-2018, 07:21 PM

Tuesday’s East-West Shrine Game team interviews...

New Orleans Saints

Virginia Tech CB Greg Stroman
Tennessee TE Ethan Wolf
Northern Iowa WR Darius Fountain
USF DT Deadrin Senat
Oklahoma State S Tre Flowers
Sam Houston State QB Jeremiah Briscoe
Wagner OT Greg Senat

01-16-2018, 11:10 AM	#281
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,624 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI TI’m now convinced that he would be a perfect fit in Vaccaro’s role should we decide to move on from him. Decisions, decisions. hagan714 likes this.

01-16-2018, 11:38 AM	#282
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,624 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Virginia Tech runs some weird variation of a 4-6 defense so I’m not really even sure what you would call Edmunds lol. There’s times where he’s a Mike and other times he’s an edge rusher. All I know is that he’s 6’5”, 250 lbs and fundamentally excellent as a tackler. I really just want a LB that strikes fear into people. Chris, thanks for this post and I'd like to expound on this if I may. Edmunds appears to be a freak (size, range, speed) but honestly if he doesn't have the instincts, it really doesn't matter because if you are that big and strong moving in the wrong direction, what exactly does that do for us? Over the years, I'm really starting to notice that when evaluating at the LB position, instincts should be FIRST, speed, size second. I think this could possibly be a reason what got Stephone Anthony over drafted . If you review SA college tape, you couldn't tell he was a 4.57 runner (red flag) out of the gate. When kids times faster than they look on their tape ... I'm curious to know what's up. Generally, it possibly indicates that their process is slow but in a B line, he's Carl Lewis. I'm looking at guys whose tape looks fast. Deion Jones was fast at LSU, Kuechly at BC, Vilma at Miami, Wagner at Utah St etc. Thoughts? ChrisXVI and MarchingOn like this.

01-16-2018, 01:46 PM	#283
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by blackangold Needs in the draft or FA DE (need a beast opposite of Cam) DT (pass rushing) WR/TE (big physical player that is a threat) Really wanted us to grab Campbell, and man that would have been huge. I like Okafor but he has a history of injuries we likely need an upgrade. I would love for Jimmy G to come back, think he solved a lot of issues on O. Our LBs are set we just need them to stay healthy, same with our DBs. Originally Posted by K Major Set at the linebacker position B&G? We desperately need SPEED at the MIKE. Anzalone is supposed to fill this need however you can't count on him as this (injuries) was the knock coming out of FL. Assuming he does come back, we are still thin at the position. It's time to get ELITE at the position. Robertson, Klein etc are solid but not game changers. We were close with Reuben Foster (when healthy, he is as good as advertised) in last year's draft. Kuechly, David, Debo Jones, Barr, Kendrick types are necessary in NO. There's no way we're set at LBer when we just started a guy in a playoff game we signed off the street six weeks ago... True, we've an obscene amount of IRs, particularly at the LBer position; plus we traded a Anthony that DA was unable to redeem... Now I'm more optimistic that Anzalone will get better medical care and will strengthen for the rigors of an NFL Season... At the minimum, I'd like to see us get a 3-Down Mike and keep a seventh LBer on the roster: WLB - Anzalone, Stupar MLB - (TBA), Robertson, (TBA) SLB - Klein, Mauti ChrisXVI and K Major like this.
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01-16-2018, 02:39 PM	#284
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints A good Mike LB prospect that could be had in the middle rounds: Chris Worley, OLB, Ohio State Height: 6-2. Weight: 230. Projected 40 Time: 4.70. Projected Round (2018): 4-6 He went to Glenville High School in Cleveland just like Marshon Lattimore, Ted Ginn Jr and Justin Hardee. We could continue the pipeline. hagan714 and K Major like this.

01-16-2018, 03:06 PM	#285
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre There's no way we're set at LBer when we just started a guy in a playoff game we signed off the street six weeks ago... True, we've an obscene amount of IRs, particularly at the LBer position; plus we traded a Anthony that DA was unable to redeem... Now I'm more optimistic that Anzalone will get better medical care and will strengthen for the rigors of an NFL Season... At the minimum, I'd like to see us get a 3-Down Mike and keep a seventh LBer on the roster: WLB - Anzalone, Stupar MLB - (TBA), Robertson, (TBA) SLB - Klein, Mauti Uhhhmmmm.......what no Teo? Crusader and MarchingOn like this.

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01-16-2018, 04:56 PM	#286
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Yeah I'd rather keep Teo than Mauti or Stupar. K Major and MarchingOn like this.

01-16-2018, 05:20 PM	#287
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,624 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by Crusader Yeah I'd rather keep Teo than Mauti or Stupar. Crusader, you're absolutely right about Teo' and I didn't mean to leave him out. This was a really good FA signing. Quality depth and he was a dawg against the run. Crusader likes this.

01-16-2018, 05:37 PM	#288
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints I have no problem admitting Teo' exceeded all expectations I had for him. I honestly thought he'd be injured and cut by the end of camp. Glad to be pleasantly surprised. hagan714 and Rugby Saint II like this.

01-16-2018, 06:32 PM	#289
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Round 1 Not there yet Round 2 = Alvin Kamara Trade 49ers Round 3 Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr Round 4 Levi Wallace CB Alanama 5111 185 4.42 #39 Sr Round 5 = Stephone Anthony Trade Miami Fred Warner DE/OLB BYU 6025 228 4.68 #4 Sr Marcus Baugh TE Ohio State 6041 250 4.84 #85 rSr Round 6 = Adrian Peterson trade Cardnials Davontae Harris CB/FS Illinois St 5111 200 4.50 #10 Sr Chris Worley ILB OSU 6015 230 4.67 #35 rSr Round 7 = Jalen Saunders Trade Patriots? Ranthony Texada CB/KR TCU 5095 176 4.30 #11 rSr Top UDFA Ike Boettger OT/TE Iowa 6046 307 5.02 #75 rSr Coleman Shelton C/OG Washington 6041 293 5.08 rSr Jamal Morrow, RB, Washington State 5085 180 4.54 #25 rSr Ethan Wolfe TE Tennessee 6045 245 4.86 #82 Sr Jaylen Dunlap FS/CB/SS Illinois 6002 190 4.45 #1 rSr Deion Harris CB North Dakota 6015 182 4.50 #19 Sr Austin Golson C/OG/OT Auburn 6043 312 5.23 #73 rSr Jamar Summers CB/FS Connecticut 5116 185 4.44 #21 Sr Will he or wont he come out? ?Jamal Peters S/CB Mississippi State 6016 218 4.55 #2 Jr ? ChrisXVI likes this.
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01-16-2018, 07:21 PM	#290
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