2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

jeanpierre · 02-19-2018, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I’m so intrigued lately by this guy:

OLB/DE Lorenzo Carter, Georgia; Height: 6-6; Weight: 242 lbs

I would have him playing SLB in base and DE in sub-packages. His length and sideline-to-sideline range is incredible. Could he possibly last until the 3rd round or will he have a meteoric rise like former Bulldog Leonard Floyd?

Interesting fact: Carter was high school teammates with Alvin Kamara.

Nice - Payton likes going right into his clubhouse and getting first-hand scouting reports; but I find that works two ways...

Sometimes we get guys in the clubhouse, good guys, but they're not really good players, just podnahs that needed an NFL gig...

jeanpierre · 02-16-2018, 06:03 AM

jeanpierre · 02-19-2018, 09:29 AM

K Major · 02-19-2018, 09:35 AM

Ogbonnia Okoronkwo: "The Scariest DE/LB In College Football" \| Oklahoma Highlights á´´á´° - YouTube

jeanpierre · 02-19-2018, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Ogbonnia Okoronkwo: "The Scariest DE/LB In College Football" | Oklahoma Highlights á´´á´° - YouTube

He's a lot like Kikaha, and is limited as a 3-4 OLB...

jeanpierre · 02-19-2018, 06:25 PM

Just gonna leave this right here...

Leighton Vander Esch 2017 Highlights - YouTube

K Major · 02-19-2018, 06:39 PM

^^^ It appears Leighton (honestly, I'd never heard of him until last month) is rising up the draft boards as of late.

Questions I have are ...

How is his hip movement/change of direction?
Instincts ?
Ability to shed off defenders ?
Sideline to sideline closing speed as a tackler (see Deion Jones/Kuechly)?
Coverage ability in space ?

jeanpierre · 02-19-2018, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

^^^ It appears Leighton (honestly, I'd never heard of him until last month) is rising up the draft boards as of late.

Questions I have are ...

How is his hip movement/change of direction?
Instincts ?
Ability to shed off defenders ?
Sideline to sideline closing speed as a tackler (see Deion Jones/Kuechly)?
Coverage ability in space ?

The big moment will be the three cone at the combine; if it's sub 7.0 sec, you really gotta look at him as our guy, if he lasts that long...

Instincts, reads seems to be there; I still would be happy if we took Bryan and got Josey Jewell moving up in the third round though...

ChrisXVI · 02-20-2018, 01:22 PM

WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press

Some See Goedert as Mid-Rounder

...There have been some mock drafts that have Goedert going in the first round and rate him as the top tight end in the draft class. However after speaking to sources from a handful of teams, none of them had Goedert graded in Round 1 of the 2018 NFL Draft.

The highest grade among those five teams was a second-rounder. Two teams had him graded in the third round, and two teams had a high fourth-round grade on him.

..."[Goedert]'s not a great route-runner and wasn't a separation guy," said a NFC director of college scouting. "He is more possessional and doesn't win with suddenness or quickness. He had lots of drops, but you counter that with some spectacular catches. They threw him a million balls, so some drops are going to happen. We just don't see him as a special mismatch weapon."

K Major · 02-21-2018, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press

Some See Goedert as Mid-Rounder

...There have been some mock drafts that have Goedert going in the first round and rate him as the top tight end in the draft class. However after speaking to sources from a handful of teams, none of them had Goedert graded in Round 1 of the 2018 NFL Draft.

The highest grade among those five teams was a second-rounder. Two teams had him graded in the third round, and two teams had a high fourth-round grade on him.

..."[Goedert]'s not a great route-runner and wasn't a separation guy," said a NFC director of college scouting. "He is more possessional and doesn't win with suddenness or quickness. He had lots of drops, but you counter that with some spectacular catches. They threw him a million balls, so some drops are going to happen. We just don't see him as a special mismatch weapon."

That scouting report sounds eeirly similar to the so called "weaknesses" of Travis Kelce coming out of college too.

I personally think Dallas Goedert has all of the tools to become a very good TE at the next level.

02-19-2018, 08:01 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I’m so intrigued lately by this guy: OLB/DE Lorenzo Carter, Georgia; Height: 6-6; Weight: 242 lbs I would have him playing SLB in base and DE in sub-packages. His length and sideline-to-sideline range is incredible. Could he possibly last until the 3rd round or will he have a meteoric rise like former Bulldog Leonard Floyd? Interesting fact: Carter was high school teammates with Alvin Kamara. Nice - Payton likes going right into his clubhouse and getting first-hand scouting reports; but I find that works two ways... Sometimes we get guys in the clubhouse, good guys, but they're not really good players, just podnahs that needed an NFL gig...

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major Ogbonnia Okoronkwo: "The Scariest DE/LB In College Football" \| Oklahoma Highlights á´´á´° - YouTube He's a lot like Kikaha, and is limited as a 3-4 OLB...

02-19-2018, 06:39 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints ^^^ It appears Leighton (honestly, I'd never heard of him until last month) is rising up the draft boards as of late. Questions I have are ... How is his hip movement/change of direction? Instincts ? Ability to shed off defenders ? Sideline to sideline closing speed as a tackler (see Deion Jones/Kuechly)? Coverage ability in space ?

02-19-2018, 06:47 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major ^^^ It appears Leighton (honestly, I'd never heard of him until last month) is rising up the draft boards as of late. Questions I have are ... How is his hip movement/change of direction? Instincts ? Ability to shed off defenders ? Sideline to sideline closing speed as a tackler (see Deion Jones/Kuechly)? Coverage ability in space ? The big moment will be the three cone at the combine; if it's sub 7.0 sec, you really gotta look at him as our guy, if he lasts that long... Instincts, reads seems to be there; I still would be happy if we took Bryan and got Josey Jewell moving up in the third round though...

02-20-2018, 01:22 PM	#9
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press Some See Goedert as Mid-Rounder ...There have been some mock drafts that have Goedert going in the first round and rate him as the top tight end in the draft class. However after speaking to sources from a handful of teams, none of them had Goedert graded in Round 1 of the 2018 NFL Draft. The highest grade among those five teams was a second-rounder. Two teams had him graded in the third round, and two teams had a high fourth-round grade on him. ..."[Goedert]'s not a great route-runner and wasn't a separation guy," said a NFC director of college scouting. "He is more possessional and doesn't win with suddenness or quickness. He had lots of drops, but you counter that with some spectacular catches. They threw him a million balls, so some drops are going to happen. We just don't see him as a special mismatch weapon."
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02-21-2018, 09:43 AM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press Some See Goedert as Mid-Rounder ...There have been some mock drafts that have Goedert going in the first round and rate him as the top tight end in the draft class. However after speaking to sources from a handful of teams, none of them had Goedert graded in Round 1 of the 2018 NFL Draft. The highest grade among those five teams was a second-rounder. Two teams had him graded in the third round, and two teams had a high fourth-round grade on him. ..."[Goedert]'s not a great route-runner and wasn't a separation guy," said a NFC director of college scouting. "He is more possessional and doesn't win with suddenness or quickness. He had lots of drops, but you counter that with some spectacular catches. They threw him a million balls, so some drops are going to happen. We just don't see him as a special mismatch weapon." That scouting report sounds eeirly similar to the so called "weaknesses" of Travis Kelce coming out of college too. I personally think Dallas Goedert has all of the tools to become a very good TE at the next level.

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