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SmashMouth 04-16-2018 07:56 PM

Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 798713)

He "smuggled" a decent amount of yards and big plays. A dang shame he was never named to the ProBowl; this says something about the ProBowl selection process.

st thomas 04-16-2018 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 797108)
Let me first say this, born & raised in Lafourche/Terrebonne Parishes, I was raised a SEC fan, not just LSU...

In fact my Mom, from MS, had me pull for Ole Miss and she worked for Tulane Docs so I also pulled for the Green Wave...

More an Ole SEC house - a team that has the best shot to make the most national noise is who our house pulled for late in the season...

So growing up in the 70s and 80s - we pulled for a lot of Bama teams in December and January...

That said, Alabama players, especially under Saban, have always made me nervous...

Many are not overly impressive individually, often because they have such great teams year in, year out...

Many of the individual flaws, whether mental or physical are masked in their Bama film because of their surrounding superior level of talent...

Now I'm not saying Bama doesn't produce any elite players - it's just that it's not every prospect from Bama deserves the draft cache the Bama propaganda generates...

That said - I get what some of you say this year about getting a DT, LB or S at a high level of physical talent, and Bama has guys graded well at those positions...

Several of the Bama guys coming out, specifically Evans, Payne and Harrison, will be good solid pros, I just don't think they're first or early second round guys if they came from a Purdue or Syracuse or Virginia...

In contrast, take Vander Esch who wasn't surrounded with talent; he started out as a walk-on as a slot receiver or tight end; then moved to linebacker; his game progressed, made errors, rarely repeated the same errors; he worked his butt off physically to become an elite prospect...

When you look at players that come out of these, well, factories - Bama, Ohio St, Virginia Tech, LSU, you've got to factor how that player is going to perform when everyone in the NFL is just as fast and strong...

How fast they learn, how fast they react, how fast they adjust...

Not running at your second pro day may not seem like that big of a deal, but go back to just last year when Foster played the "do you know who I am card" in the middle of one of the biggest processes of his career - now we know it was symptomatic of someone hiding something...

Anyways, that's why I've pushed back on some of the Bama guys and why I'm hesistant to jump on board with taking anyone other than Minkah in the first round...

With this year's group, I like the idea of taking CB Levi Wallace or C Brad Bozeman in the latter rounds where their floors are a given and the investment is not quite as high...

makes sense to me what u are sayin, it levels the playing field to some stars coming out of the bama,s lsu,s ohio sts when they hit the talent in the nfl.

st thomas 04-16-2018 09:00 PM

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could he rock all and pick up arden key in the 3rd? keep him close to home and put body guards left and right of him. he keeps saying the black and gold like him.

jeanpierre 04-17-2018 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 798655)
Now that’s interesting.

"To me, he's a third-round talent, but probably will go higher," said an AFC general manager. "He has gotten a lot of hype, but he plays soft. He's too much like Paul Posluszny for me. He's a good player and will have a lot of tackles, but most of them will come four yards downfield. He's not an impact-at-the-line guy like a Ray Lewis, Luke Kuechly, Jon Beason or Brian Urlacher."

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K Major 04-17-2018 08:53 AM

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A big, disruptive human. I'll be curious to see how Tim's game translates at the NFL level.


jeanpierre 04-17-2018 10:04 AM

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jeanpierre 04-17-2018 10:05 AM

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Tim Settle has only had one year of playing within weight, reminds me of another third round draft pick the Saints had...

Nose Tackle who's background I'd really like to investigate is No. 147 (R5, 11) NT Du’Vonta Lampkin, Oklahoma; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 335 lbs...

Scouting reports show major flags regarding maturity, getting it done with the books, and other off-the-field issues - I'd like to get an accurate picture...

On film, he's one of the strongest NT that can hold the point of attack that I've seen in this class...

K Major 04-17-2018 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 798782)
Tim Settle has only had one year of playing within weight, reminds me of another third round draft pick the Saints had...

Don't :laser: the messenger. Just adding Tim to the list of players that I may have missed pre draft.

Side note - I wanted Brandon Williams but Ryan Pace & his brain trust thought Jenkins aka The Big Marshmallow was the answer :rolleyes:.

ChrisXVI 04-17-2018 12:31 PM

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The Josh Sweat Miracle: From Leg 'Snapped in Half' to Fastest DE in the Draft

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...medium=website

Very interesting article on a very intriguing first round sleeper prospect. Worth a read even if you don’t want to draft him.

jeanpierre 04-17-2018 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 798784)
Don't :laser: the messenger. Just adding Tim to the list of players that I may have missed pre draft.

Side note - I wanted Brandon Williams but Ryan Pace & his brain trust thought Jenkins aka The Big Marshmallow was the answer :rolleyes:.

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