2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

K Major · 04-24-2018, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Mike Hughes has some serious off-the-field flags...

Shut down corners are hard to find & he has elite, playmaking ability. Someone will gamble on him. Happens every year.

Beastmode · 04-25-2018, 01:03 AM

No way I thought we were getting Lattimore. Still surreal that happened IMO. Amazing steals 10-15 because I don't see any of these QB's doing anything just like last year. Even Barkley is way overrated. Great combine but body of work is suspect and nowhere near a Barry Sanders or even Fournette.

I see us getting a couple of starters again. Much much value late. TE, DB and also RB. I hope we can snag Kalen Barrage in the 5th or 6th. That dude looks scary close to Kamara minus some receiving skills.

jeanpierre · 04-25-2018, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Shut down corners are hard to find & he has elite, playmaking ability. Someone will gamble on him. Happens every year.

I understand what you're saying, but look how skilled a cornerback Marcus Peters is and what Kansas City had to lose in trade to get him off the team...

jeanpierre · 04-25-2018, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

No way I thought we were getting Lattimore. Still surreal that happened IMO. Amazing steals 10-15 because I don't see any of these QB's doing anything just like last year. Even Barkley is way overrated. Great combine but body of work is suspect and nowhere near a Barry Sanders or even Fournette.

I see us getting a couple of starters again. Much much value late. TE, DB and also RB. I hope we can snag Kalen Barrage in the 5th or 6th. That dude looks scary close to Kamara minus some receiving skills.

Totally agree. Just don't see drafting a five-six year career position with a first round pick. Barkley especially. Hope the other kids draft him...

And you helped make the case of exactly why we don't need Barrage - if you can't catch in a SP offense you can keep moving down the draft...

jeanpierre · 04-25-2018, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Good read from Mike Detillier on Landry ...

Mike Detillier column: Many draft options for Saints - Sports - Daily Comet - Thibodaux, LA

Landry didn't have an off-season, go back and look at the level of competition he faced and he definitely had a problem setting the edge against better players that likely won't make the NFL...

Plus Detiller made the case against him by comparing him to Swilling - a 3-4 OLB, which he's right to do; Landry is not what we need now - maybe in the second round when we were putting in a 3-4...

We need to stay the course and keep adding true 4-3 DE, DTs - Taven Bryan (if he falls now), Sam Hubbard, Breeland Speaks should be our targets...

To be consistent with my criticism as I was with Rashaan Evans, Dallas Goedert played some of that late Draft Process drama by refusing to compete, participate playing it safe on agent's advice...

Goedert has great hands and adjustments on the ball, but to take a TE with a first round pick, I'd prefer a total, more complete athletic TE, which is why Gesicki rates higher...

Goedert has the potential to be lights out - but at this point, it's more potential and I'd like to have seen him willing to compete more in the draft process rather than play it safe like Evans has...

From what I'm seeing consistently about Hughes in draft reports, he and agent are just in robotic response mode of "that's all in the past, we've moving forward" re: his off-the-field bullshinski...

If Sean Payton is to be believed (he's been trying to revise history with re: Reuben Foster) the Saints should be asking the question to Hughes and agent - "Why is this in the past and what steps have been taken so Hughes behaviour won't continue to be a distraction?" - and they're not answering that part, at least not where it's leaked publicly which it should have by now...

Mike D knows a lot of people, allows himself to be used as a bullhorn for prospective players and their agents for inside scoop - that's how it works - but like the King of 3rd party scouts, Kiper, he has to play to his base and I'd question him in private on some of these takes he's printed...

CheramieIII · 04-25-2018, 08:28 AM

Let's draft everyone! lol

K Major · 04-25-2018, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Let's draft everyone! lol

Tomorrow is the day

. All of the speculation will be over!

Can't wait.

Beastmode · 04-25-2018, 09:45 AM

I didn't say Barrage can't catch, just didn't get many in that offense, sort of like Fournette who can actually catch. The ones Barrage did get, he looked very similar in style to Kamara. I wouldn't even call him a flyer in the draft. He'll get drafted in the 5th IMO.

ChrisXVI · 04-25-2018, 10:40 AM

It’s starting to look like a VERY real possibility that WR Calvin Ridley could still be available when we pick. I’ve seen a few draft analysts speculate about this and when I run through how the first round could play out I’m seeing it as well.

If we somehow manage to get Ridley then forget about it... We win the draft.

Beastmode · 04-25-2018, 10:58 AM

Lots of good WR's this draft. Not Julio caliber but solid slot guys and press beaters. Gallup, Hamilton, Miller are a few I think will have immediate impacts for teams. Not really a need for us but I could see it late if they are the best available. If Ridley is there at 27 though, it would be hard to pass on him. Actually it would be stupid to do so.

04-24-2018, 11:00 PM	#811
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Mike Hughes has some serious off-the-field flags... Shut down corners are hard to find & he has elite, playmaking ability. Someone will gamble on him. Happens every year.

04-25-2018, 01:03 AM	#812
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints No way I thought we were getting Lattimore. Still surreal that happened IMO. Amazing steals 10-15 because I don't see any of these QB's doing anything just like last year. Even Barkley is way overrated. Great combine but body of work is suspect and nowhere near a Barry Sanders or even Fournette. I see us getting a couple of starters again. Much much value late. TE, DB and also RB. I hope we can snag Kalen Barrage in the 5th or 6th. That dude looks scary close to Kamara minus some receiving skills.
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04-25-2018, 07:14 AM	#813
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major Shut down corners are hard to find & he has elite, playmaking ability. Someone will gamble on him. Happens every year. I understand what you're saying, but look how skilled a cornerback Marcus Peters is and what Kansas City had to lose in trade to get him off the team...

04-25-2018, 07:18 AM	#814
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by Beastmode No way I thought we were getting Lattimore. Still surreal that happened IMO. Amazing steals 10-15 because I don't see any of these QB's doing anything just like last year. Even Barkley is way overrated. Great combine but body of work is suspect and nowhere near a Barry Sanders or even Fournette. I see us getting a couple of starters again. Much much value late. TE, DB and also RB. I hope we can snag Kalen Barrage in the 5th or 6th. That dude looks scary close to Kamara minus some receiving skills. Totally agree. Just don't see drafting a five-six year career position with a first round pick. Barkley especially. Hope the other kids draft him... And you helped make the case of exactly why we don't need Barrage - if you can't catch in a SP offense you can keep moving down the draft...

04-25-2018, 07:34 AM	#815
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major Good read from Mike Detillier on Landry ... Mike Detillier column: Many draft options for Saints - Sports - Daily Comet - Thibodaux, LA Landry didn't have an off-season, go back and look at the level of competition he faced and he definitely had a problem setting the edge against better players that likely won't make the NFL... Plus Detiller made the case against him by comparing him to Swilling - a 3-4 OLB, which he's right to do; Landry is not what we need now - maybe in the second round when we were putting in a 3-4... We need to stay the course and keep adding true 4-3 DE, DTs - Taven Bryan (if he falls now), Sam Hubbard, Breeland Speaks should be our targets... To be consistent with my criticism as I was with Rashaan Evans, Dallas Goedert played some of that late Draft Process drama by refusing to compete, participate playing it safe on agent's advice... Goedert has great hands and adjustments on the ball, but to take a TE with a first round pick, I'd prefer a total, more complete athletic TE, which is why Gesicki rates higher... Goedert has the potential to be lights out - but at this point, it's more potential and I'd like to have seen him willing to compete more in the draft process rather than play it safe like Evans has... From what I'm seeing consistently about Hughes in draft reports, he and agent are just in robotic response mode of "that's all in the past, we've moving forward" re: his off-the-field bullshinski... If Sean Payton is to be believed (he's been trying to revise history with re: Reuben Foster) the Saints should be asking the question to Hughes and agent - "Why is this in the past and what steps have been taken so Hughes behaviour won't continue to be a distraction?" - and they're not answering that part, at least not where it's leaked publicly which it should have by now... Mike D knows a lot of people, allows himself to be used as a bullhorn for prospective players and their agents for inside scoop - that's how it works - but like the King of 3rd party scouts, Kiper, he has to play to his base and I'd question him in private on some of these takes he's printed...
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints I didn't say Barrage can't catch, just didn't get many in that offense, sort of like Fournette who can actually catch. The ones Barrage did get, he looked very similar in style to Kamara. I wouldn't even call him a flyer in the draft. He'll get drafted in the 5th IMO.
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints It’s starting to look like a VERY real possibility that WR Calvin Ridley could still be available when we pick. I’ve seen a few draft analysts speculate about this and when I run through how the first round could play out I’m seeing it as well. If we somehow manage to get Ridley then forget about it... We win the draft. Beastmode and K Major like this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Lots of good WR's this draft. Not Julio caliber but solid slot guys and press beaters. Gallup, Hamilton, Miller are a few I think will have immediate impacts for teams. Not really a need for us but I could see it late if they are the best available. If Ridley is there at 27 though, it would be hard to pass on him. Actually it would be stupid to do so. ChrisXVI likes this.
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