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Old 04-16-2018, 11:24 AM   #1
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Old 04-16-2018, 11:35 AM   #2
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Now that’s interesting.

"To me, he's a third-round talent, but probably will go higher," said an AFC general manager. "He has gotten a lot of hype, but he plays soft. He's too much like Paul Posluszny for me. He's a good player and will have a lot of tackles, but most of them will come four yards downfield. He's not an impact-at-the-line guy like a Ray Lewis, Luke Kuechly, Jon Beason or Brian Urlacher."
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Old 04-16-2018, 11:53 AM   #3
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I always felt Vander Esch was a 2nd rd prospect. The comparisons he is getting to Urlacher is a bit extreme. For some scouts ranking this guy ahead of Rashaan Evans is a head scratcher for me. Look at Vander's body of work ... nothing screams "1st round talent".

If he's there in the 3rd, totally different conversation.
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I always felt Vander Esch was a 2nd rd prospect. The comparisons he is getting to Urlacher is a bit extreme. For some scouts ranking this guy ahead of Rashaan Evans is a head scratcher for me. Look at Vander's body of work ... nothing screams "1st round talent".

If he's there in the 3rd, totally different conversation.
See and I'm concerned about Evans because of his refusal to run for scouts, even when scouts returned for a second pro day with the expectation he'd run...

Then Evans was surrounded with four and five star recruits at Alabama that could mask his mistakes, inabilities on that terrific Bama defense...

Whereas Vander Esch has gone from heavy slot WR to TE to MLB in three seasons, with significant progression at Boise State...

But again, I go back to the fact that scouts came a second time with purpose of seeing him run and he declined - very concerning...

And I'd agree that Vander Esch and Urlacher are two different linebackers and that the game has now evolved more to Vander Esch style vs Urlacher who'd struggled as the game became more about passing...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

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Old 04-18-2018, 03:33 AM   #5
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See and I'm concerned about Evans because of his refusal to run for scouts, even when scouts returned for a second pro day with the expectation he'd run...

Then Evans was surrounded with four and five star recruits at Alabama that could mask his mistakes, inabilities on that terrific Bama defense...

Whereas Vander Esch has gone from heavy slot WR to TE to MLB in three seasons, with significant progression at Boise State...

But again, I go back to the fact that scouts came a second time with purpose of seeing him run and he declined - very concerning...

And I'd agree that Vander Esch and Urlacher are two different linebackers and that the game has now evolved more to Vander Esch style vs Urlacher who'd struggled as the game became more about passing...

im with you. especially when he said he would run at the second pro day. that rubbed me the wrong way. dont get me wrong i’d still be just fine if we took him at 27 but there is concerns. I wouldnt mind Shaun Dion Hamilton later on. he played just as good and maybe a better coverage guy. but the knee injuries afe concerning and of course the reason why he’ll go later
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im with you. especially when he said he would run at the second pro day. that rubbed me the wrong way. dont get me wrong i’d still be just fine if we took him at 27 but there is concerns. I wouldnt mind Shaun Dion Hamilton later on. he played just as good and maybe a better coverage guy. but the knee injuries are concerning and of course the reason why he’ll go later
Jerry Rice had a less than stellar 40 and he ran away with the receiving record books - yet another argument for drills to be done in pads, with a football...

Unless he ran a horrific 40, the most disconcerting part of this was a second planned opportunity to compete and you duck and dodge - major red flag...

It's just a bit unsettling as he was high school teammates with Reuben Foster (Auburn HS) as well as college and I'm hearing some of the same squelch...
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It's just a bit unsettling as he was high school teammates with Reuben Foster (Auburn HS) as well as college and I'm hearing some of the same squelch...
C'mon JP, that ain't fair to Rashaan. It goes by each individual player. You don't let the school do the vetting for you.

Just keep your fingers crossed this kid doesn't end up in Carolina, Tampa Bay, Atlanta or even the Lambs. *Gulp*
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