2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

jeanpierre · 04-15-2018, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

DL is a reach & 27.

Taven Bryan, Maurice Hurst, Da'ron Payne wouldn't be reaches.

Bryan is the best ceiling of the bunch, with Hurst having cardiac questions and Payne limited as a pass rusher...

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Probably have to do it but man, I would love to have Gesicki. Our TE's are ok but down the stretch it really hurt us. Need a EZ big body target.

I'd be p^ssed if we took Gesicki were Taven Bryan or Leighton Vander Esch still on the board; our front seven on defense is still way too light. But I'd prefer to move back a few spots at that point and then take NT Harrison Phillips or TE Mike Gesicki.

You're right about the big target problem on third down and red zone attempts, and signing Cameron Meredith will go a long way in solving the big target dilemma.

You don't always have to solve that problem with Tight End.

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Rest of the draft will be excellent value with all the QB's going early. No reason we can't land a couple of starters again.

Definitely. We need to upgrade opposite Cam Jordan - that should be our priority in this draft.

And I'm not sold at all on the Demario Davis signing - one good season and now will uproot and reestablish in yet another defense?

I'd prefer Leighton Vander Esch if he somehow fell to us...

jeanpierre · 04-15-2018, 11:43 PM

ChrisXVI · 04-16-2018, 05:58 AM

Listening to Matt Miller’s “Stick to Football” podcast and they’re running through a first round mock draft... They have the Saints getting DT Vita Vea. I didn’t really think it would be possible for him to still be on the board when we pick but now I can kind of see it happening. How much do teams view him as just a two-down NT? Those guys tend to go later than expected.

AsylumGuido · 04-16-2018, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Taven Bryan, Maurice Hurst, Da'ron Payne wouldn't be reaches.

Bryan is the best ceiling of the bunch, with Hurst having cardiac questions and Payne limited as a pass rusher...

I'd be p^ssed if we took Gesicki were Taven Bryan or Leighton Vander Esch still on the board; our front seven on defense is still way too light. But I'd prefer to move back a few spots at that point and then take NT Harrison Phillips or TE Mike Gesicki.

You're right about the big target problem on third down and red zone attempts, and signing Cameron Meredith will go a long way in solving the big target dilemma.

You don't always have to solve that problem with Tight End.

Definitely. We need to upgrade opposite Cam Jordan - that should be our priority in this draft.

And I'm not sold at all on the Demario Davis signing - one good season and now will uproot and reestablish in yet another defense?

I'd prefer Leighton Vander Esch if he somehow fell to us...

Don't forget he'll have Nolan as his coach here. He very well may be better than ever.

ChrisXVI · 04-16-2018, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Don't forget he'll have Nolan as his coach here. He very well may be better than ever.

That’s a very good point AG. Davis is very intelligent and has the great athleticism to go with it. I guarantee Mike Nolan ID’d him as the guy he wants leading the LB group.

ChrisXVI · 04-16-2018, 07:15 AM

Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft – ProFootballTalk

“I don’t see Luck in this draft, and I don’t see Carson Wentz, who I liked a lot coming into the draft,” Payton said. “I’d feel a little bit uneasy if I were at the top of this draft and I decided I had to have a quarterback. The pressure to get a quarterback is so great in this league, I get that. But we can’t create ’em. I wouldn’t be surprised if only one of these guys is left standing in four or five years, and if so, I’d guess it would be Sam Darnold.”

Maybe we can put to bed any speculation about trading up for a QB... and no I don’t think this is a smokescreen.

jeanpierre · 04-16-2018, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Don't forget he'll have Nolan as his coach here. He very well may be better than ever.

Yes, that's fair and important distinction to make as I've often beat the drum for Nolan myself...

Still, not sold on this signing and the amount of money involved - have to wait to be proven wrong in the Fall which I'd gladly embrace as a Saints Fan...

jeanpierre · 04-16-2018, 07:19 AM

Why is he running at the mouth now? Jedi mind tricks often back-fire at this time...

jeanpierre · 04-16-2018, 09:26 AM

K Major · 04-16-2018, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

And I'm not sold at all on the Demario Davis signing - one good season and now will uproot and reestablish in yet another defense?

Davis has excellent character, smarts & physical tools at the position. Also 100% committed to winning. And he never misses games. From Jets blog readings, his game has gotten better over the last 3 years in coverage. Overall DD was ranked as the #9 LB. That's head and shoulders above anything we have now + he has sideline to sideline speed & often arrives with bad intentions.

Dude just has a Ben Watson vibe about him. What's not to like about Demario

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04-15-2018, 11:38 PM	#721
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by Beastmode DL is a reach & 27. Taven Bryan, Maurice Hurst, Da'ron Payne wouldn't be reaches. Bryan is the best ceiling of the bunch, with Hurst having cardiac questions and Payne limited as a pass rusher... Originally Posted by Beastmode Probably have to do it but man, I would love to have Gesicki. Our TE's are ok but down the stretch it really hurt us. Need a EZ big body target. I'd be p^ssed if we took Gesicki were Taven Bryan or Leighton Vander Esch still on the board; our front seven on defense is still way too light. But I'd prefer to move back a few spots at that point and then take NT Harrison Phillips or TE Mike Gesicki. You're right about the big target problem on third down and red zone attempts, and signing Cameron Meredith will go a long way in solving the big target dilemma. You don't always have to solve that problem with Tight End. Originally Posted by Beastmode Rest of the draft will be excellent value with all the QB's going early. No reason we can't land a couple of starters again. Definitely. We need to upgrade opposite Cam Jordan - that should be our priority in this draft. And I'm not sold at all on the Demario Davis signing - one good season and now will uproot and reestablish in yet another defense? I'd prefer Leighton Vander Esch if he somehow fell to us... Sarik likes this.
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Listening to Matt Miller’s “Stick to Football” podcast and they’re running through a first round mock draft... They have the Saints getting DT Vita Vea. I didn’t really think it would be possible for him to still be on the board when we pick but now I can kind of see it happening. How much do teams view him as just a two-down NT? Those guys tend to go later than expected. MarchingOn likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,046	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Taven Bryan, Maurice Hurst, Da'ron Payne wouldn't be reaches. Bryan is the best ceiling of the bunch, with Hurst having cardiac questions and Payne limited as a pass rusher... I'd be p^ssed if we took Gesicki were Taven Bryan or Leighton Vander Esch still on the board; our front seven on defense is still way too light. But I'd prefer to move back a few spots at that point and then take NT Harrison Phillips or TE Mike Gesicki. You're right about the big target problem on third down and red zone attempts, and signing Cameron Meredith will go a long way in solving the big target dilemma. You don't always have to solve that problem with Tight End. Definitely. We need to upgrade opposite Cam Jordan - that should be our priority in this draft. And I'm not sold at all on the Demario Davis signing - one good season and now will uproot and reestablish in yet another defense? I'd prefer Leighton Vander Esch if he somehow fell to us... Don't forget he'll have Nolan as his coach here. He very well may be better than ever. jeanpierre likes this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Don't forget he'll have Nolan as his coach here. He very well may be better than ever. That’s a very good point AG. Davis is very intelligent and has the great athleticism to go with it. I guarantee Mike Nolan ID’d him as the guy he wants leading the LB group. K Major likes this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Sean Payton: No QB prospects as good as Luck or Wentz in this draft – ProFootballTalk “I don’t see Luck in this draft, and I don’t see Carson Wentz, who I liked a lot coming into the draft,” Payton said. “I’d feel a little bit uneasy if I were at the top of this draft and I decided I had to have a quarterback. The pressure to get a quarterback is so great in this league, I get that. But we can’t create ’em. I wouldn’t be surprised if only one of these guys is left standing in four or five years, and if so, I’d guess it would be Sam Darnold.” Maybe we can put to bed any speculation about trading up for a QB... and no I don’t think this is a smokescreen.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Don't forget he'll have Nolan as his coach here. He very well may be better than ever. Yes, that's fair and important distinction to make as I've often beat the drum for Nolan myself... Still, not sold on this signing and the amount of money involved - have to wait to be proven wrong in the Fall which I'd gladly embrace as a Saints Fan...

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre And I'm not sold at all on the Demario Davis signing - one good season and now will uproot and reestablish in yet another defense? Davis has excellent character, smarts & physical tools at the position. Also 100% committed to winning. And he never misses games. From Jets blog readings, his game has gotten better over the last 3 years in coverage. Overall DD was ranked as the #9 LB. That's head and shoulders above anything we have now + he has sideline to sideline speed & often arrives with bad intentions. Dude just has a Ben Watson vibe about him. What's not to like about Demario ? AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and ChrisXVI like this.

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