We Had An Ugly Game

NonieT · 11-27-2017, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Do you think Brees haven't develop the timing and trust with Ginn or his arm is deteriorating?

Is Sean Payton to trusting in Brees arm or is he just pig headed to run the ball

Do they finally cut Harris and if so will they sign Jalen Collins

Why not activate Muhammad? So many questions I will love to be answered

Now you know good and well the Saints are not going to sign Jalen Collins. He is probably done in the NFL and even if he isn't, he won't get is second chance with the Saints. They are probably stuck with Harris for the foreseeable future.

nola_swammi · 11-27-2017, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Now you know good and well the Saints are not going to sign Jalen Collins. He is probably done in the NFL and even if he isn't, he won't get is second chance with the Saints. They are probably stuck with Harris for the foreseeable future.

Why shot my dream down? Can we at at least still cut Harris?

K Major · 11-27-2017, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Why shot my dream down? Can we at at least still cut Harris?

Probably not this year but I would have kept Arthur Maulet over Harris.

Fingers crossed we get Ken and/or Lattimore back this week.

darksoul35 · 11-27-2017, 06:15 AM

The O-line does not get a pass. Brees made some dumb throws more than a few times in double and triple coverage but he did not have much time.

Crusader · 11-27-2017, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

The O-line does not get a pass. Brees made some dumb throws more than a few times in double and triple coverage but he did not have much time.

Agreed. There was a lot of ugly O-line play out there yesterday. Pretty much all of them got their asses handed to them at one point or another.
They made a ton of good plays too but this was not the best performance of the year for the group.

Crusader · 11-27-2017, 07:03 AM

I posted that tweet in another thread. I know a bunch of folks will say stuff like that shouldn't happen, they are pros and all that hoopla. The thing is it still does. You just kinda run out of energy, it is especially prone to happening after a big win like against the Redskins.
And if you have a bad week of practise it will usually show up on sunday.

And losing 2 starting CBs and a DE doesn't help either. The Rams are a good football team and you can't give them any slack at all. We play our worst game since week 2 and are still only a TD away thou, thats a positive.

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WHODATINCA · 11-27-2017, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Agreed. There was a lot of ugly O-line play out there yesterday. Pretty much all of them got their asses handed to them at one point or another.
They made a ton of good plays too but this was not the best performance of the year for the group.

Right. When you consider that our banged up D held the Rams to under 30pts when their average this year is 30pts you cannot blame this loss on the D. Although I will say our pass rush was almost non-existent till later in the game -- which was not good.

Sean Payton knew that we would have to score at least 30pts to win. We didn't do that. Kamara was outstanding. Other than that our O was stagnant. I blame the O line. Brees had no where near the time in the pocket that Goff had, while Drew was hurried and sacked a lot. And, the Rams, contrary to their rep were stuffing Ingram.

Game plan for the Rams was not good either. It was almost like they hadn't studied this team.

darksoul35 · 11-27-2017, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Agreed. There was a lot of ugly O-line play out there yesterday. Pretty much all of them got their asses handed to them at one point or another.
They made a ton of good plays too but this was not the best performance of the year for the group.

You hit the nail on the head. I still love our offensive line going forward. Peat has been a lot more valuable than I ever imagined.

subguy · 11-27-2017, 07:10 AM

My only point about Drew is it appeared on a couple of the long balls he threw they were well under thrown. It has nothing to do with his accuracy or ability to throw 25 yards.

Beastmode · 11-27-2017, 08:21 AM

I thought things would go south when we started out passing. We are not that team anymore. Get back to pounding it and Snead more involved in the slot. Could have totally grinded out a W. The D did enough to keep us in it.

11-27-2017, 10:14 AM	#1
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by nola_swammi Do you think Brees haven't develop the timing and trust with Ginn or his arm is deteriorating? Is Sean Payton to trusting in Brees arm or is he just pig headed to run the ball Do they finally cut Harris and if so will they sign Jalen Collins Why not activate Muhammad? So many questions I will love to be answered Now you know good and well the Saints are not going to sign Jalen Collins. He is probably done in the NFL and even if he isn't, he won't get is second chance with the Saints. They are probably stuck with Harris for the foreseeable future.
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11-27-2017, 11:20 AM	#2
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by NonieT Now you know good and well the Saints are not going to sign Jalen Collins. He is probably done in the NFL and even if he isn't, he won't get is second chance with the Saints. They are probably stuck with Harris for the foreseeable future. Why shot my dream down? Can we at at least still cut Harris?

11-27-2017, 12:23 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by nola_swammi Why shot my dream down? Can we at at least still cut Harris? Probably not this year but I would have kept Arthur Maulet over Harris. Fingers crossed we get Ken and/or Lattimore back this week.

11-27-2017, 06:15 AM	#4
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,045	Re: We Had An Ugly Game The O-line does not get a pass. Brees made some dumb throws more than a few times in double and triple coverage but he did not have much time. spkb25 and Rell&Gold like this.
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11-27-2017, 06:29 AM	#5
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,049	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by darksoul35 The O-line does not get a pass. Brees made some dumb throws more than a few times in double and triple coverage but he did not have much time. Agreed. There was a lot of ugly O-line play out there yesterday. Pretty much all of them got their asses handed to them at one point or another. They made a ton of good plays too but this was not the best performance of the year for the group. spkb25, Rell&Gold and WHODATINCA like this.
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11-27-2017, 07:03 AM	#6
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,049	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Twitter I posted that tweet in another thread. I know a bunch of folks will say stuff like that shouldn't happen, they are pros and all that hoopla. The thing is it still does. You just kinda run out of energy, it is especially prone to happening after a big win like against the Redskins. And if you have a bad week of practise it will usually show up on sunday. And losing 2 starting CBs and a DE doesn't help either. The Rams are a good football team and you can't give them any slack at all. We play our worst game since week 2 and are still only a TD away thou, thats a positive. saintfan, subguy, RailBoss and 2 others like this.
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WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by Crusader Agreed. There was a lot of ugly O-line play out there yesterday. Pretty much all of them got their asses handed to them at one point or another. They made a ton of good plays too but this was not the best performance of the year for the group. Right. When you consider that our banged up D held the Rams to under 30pts when their average this year is 30pts you cannot blame this loss on the D. Although I will say our pass rush was almost non-existent till later in the game -- which was not good. Sean Payton knew that we would have to score at least 30pts to win. We didn't do that. Kamara was outstanding. Other than that our O was stagnant. I blame the O line. Brees had no where near the time in the pocket that Goff had, while Drew was hurried and sacked a lot. And, the Rams, contrary to their rep were stuffing Ingram. Game plan for the Rams was not good either. It was almost like they hadn't studied this team.
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11-27-2017, 06:05 PM	#8
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,045	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by Crusader Agreed. There was a lot of ugly O-line play out there yesterday. Pretty much all of them got their asses handed to them at one point or another. They made a ton of good plays too but this was not the best performance of the year for the group. You hit the nail on the head. I still love our offensive line going forward. Peat has been a lot more valuable than I ever imagined.
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11-27-2017, 07:10 AM	#9
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,104	Re: We Had An Ugly Game My only point about Drew is it appeared on a couple of the long balls he threw they were well under thrown. It has nothing to do with his accuracy or ability to throw 25 yards.

11-27-2017, 08:21 AM	#10
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: We Had An Ugly Game I thought things would go south when we started out passing. We are not that team anymore. Get back to pounding it and Snead more involved in the slot. Could have totally grinded out a W. The D did enough to keep us in it.
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