We Had An Ugly Game

blackangold · 11-26-2017, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

How did Drew Brees not have a field day, I mean single coverage all day long???

Brees has never played the wade Phillips defense well, he always gets killed.

Today was particularly ugly, and I'll say the majority of the loss is on him. Defense sucked but did enough to give our offense a shot...

K Major · 11-26-2017, 10:36 PM

Thomas is the primary X WR but we need a big body TE. Fleener isn't that guy. Coleman isn't that type of receiver. Hadn't seen that monster since Jimmy Graham was here.

But yes, Brees had an ugly game.

MarchingOn · 11-26-2017, 11:17 PM

SP called plays as many feared and tried to pass on a good pass defense...desire to show he could? We went pass heavy from the 1st series. Even while 10 behind we should've been running. Rams run defense not as good.

On D, should've taken a page from posters here and not started D. Harris. PJ and Sterling Moore were obvious to start. Needed to blitz the young QB more, too, when neither CB is 1st string. Duh.

Once going away from what got us here (run) led to the likely conclusion (behind all game), I could believe it when he didn't make the SP patented gamble and try on 4th and goal on the 5 with so little time left. That sealed it.

spkb25 · 11-26-2017, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by MarchingOn

SP called plays as many feared and tried to pass on a good pass defense...desire to show he could? We went pass heavy from the 1st series. Even while 10 behind we should've been running. Rams run defense not as good.

On D, should've taken a page from posters here and not started D. Harris. PJ and Sterling Moore were obvious to start. Needed to blitz the young QB more, too, when neither CB is 1st string. Duh.

Once going away from what got us here (run) led to the likely conclusion (behind all game), I could believe it when he didn't make the SP patented gamble and try on 4th and goal on the 5 with so little time left. That sealed it.

I think there were two reasons, number 1 we were not having success running minus the big run by Kamara and 2. I think he looked at the success Minny had passing against them.

Truth be told we just got whooped up front today by their dline, and they have a lot of speed on their defense. Plus they were amped for today and chomping at the bit. You could see that and it was probably because of how they were man-handled by Minny. You'd expect or hope that we will have that same type of passion this week at home because of how we played this week.

foreverfan · 11-27-2017, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I think most here saw there were too many defensive mistakes due to a depleted secondary and an ineffective offense most of the game.

They won on defense.
They won on offense.
They won on special teams.
We had a bad game.

They played a lot of man defense, stacked for the run and played for the short pass.

saintshrimp · 11-27-2017, 01:38 AM

What ever team preparations they make for trips ti the west coast needs to be scraped ASAP. This team has historically been lousy when in the west coast i dont know why but i cant remember the last time they played well out there

lee909 · 11-27-2017, 01:39 AM

Down top three CB
Down starting DE

Held one of the highest scoring teams under 30pts.

Offense sounds like it had a poor game against one of the best fronts in the league.

A bad game

Everything still in the teams hands

Shake it off and move on

nola_swammi · 11-27-2017, 02:57 AM

Do you think Brees haven't develop the timing and trust with Ginn or his arm is deteriorating?

Is Sean Payton to trusting in Brees arm or is he just pig headed to run the ball

Do they finally cut Harris and if so will they sign Jalen Collins

Why not activate Muhammad? So many questions I will love to be answered

darksoul35 · 11-27-2017, 07:15 AM

The O-line does not get a pass. Brees made some dumb throws more than a few times in double and triple coverage but he did not have much time.

Crusader · 11-27-2017, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by darksoul35

The O-line does not get a pass. Brees made some dumb throws more than a few times in double and triple coverage but he did not have much time.

Agreed. There was a lot of ugly O-line play out there yesterday. Pretty much all of them got their asses handed to them at one point or another.
They made a ton of good plays too but this was not the best performance of the year for the group.

11-26-2017, 10:13 PM	#11
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by MatthewT How did Drew Brees not have a field day, I mean single coverage all day long??? Brees has never played the wade Phillips defense well, he always gets killed. Today was particularly ugly, and I'll say the majority of the loss is on him. Defense sucked but did enough to give our offense a shot... MatthewT, RockyMountainSaint and Thirty3 like this.

11-26-2017, 10:36 PM	#12
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Thomas is the primary X WR but we need a big body TE. Fleener isn't that guy. Coleman isn't that type of receiver. Hadn't seen that monster since Jimmy Graham was here. But yes, Brees had an ugly game. subguy and Rugby Saint II like this.

11-26-2017, 11:17 PM	#13
MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: We Had An Ugly Game SP called plays as many feared and tried to pass on a good pass defense...desire to show he could? We went pass heavy from the 1st series. Even while 10 behind we should've been running. Rams run defense not as good. On D, should've taken a page from posters here and not started D. Harris. PJ and Sterling Moore were obvious to start. Needed to blitz the young QB more, too, when neither CB is 1st string. Duh. Once going away from what got us here (run) led to the likely conclusion (behind all game), I could believe it when he didn't make the SP patented gamble and try on 4th and goal on the 5 with so little time left. That sealed it. Rsanders24 likes this.

11-26-2017, 11:35 PM	#14
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by MarchingOn SP called plays as many feared and tried to pass on a good pass defense...desire to show he could? We went pass heavy from the 1st series. Even while 10 behind we should've been running. Rams run defense not as good. On D, should've taken a page from posters here and not started D. Harris. PJ and Sterling Moore were obvious to start. Needed to blitz the young QB more, too, when neither CB is 1st string. Duh. Once going away from what got us here (run) led to the likely conclusion (behind all game), I could believe it when he didn't make the SP patented gamble and try on 4th and goal on the 5 with so little time left. That sealed it. I think there were two reasons, number 1 we were not having success running minus the big run by Kamara and 2. I think he looked at the success Minny had passing against them. Truth be told we just got whooped up front today by their dline, and they have a lot of speed on their defense. Plus they were amped for today and chomping at the bit. You could see that and it was probably because of how they were man-handled by Minny. You'd expect or hope that we will have that same type of passion this week at home because of how we played this week. Rugby Saint II and Rell&Gold like this.
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11-27-2017, 12:20 AM	#15
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I think most here saw there were too many defensive mistakes due to a depleted secondary and an ineffective offense most of the game. They won on defense. They won on offense. They won on special teams. We had a bad game. They played a lot of man defense, stacked for the run and played for the short pass. Barry from MS likes this.

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11-27-2017, 01:38 AM	#16
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: We Had An Ugly Game What ever team preparations they make for trips ti the west coast needs to be scraped ASAP. This team has historically been lousy when in the west coast i dont know why but i cant remember the last time they played well out there

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Down top three CB Down starting DE Held one of the highest scoring teams under 30pts. Offense sounds like it had a poor game against one of the best fronts in the league. A bad game Everything still in the teams hands Shake it off and move on SaintFanInATLHELL, RailBoss, Crusader and 4 others like this.

11-27-2017, 02:57 AM	#18
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Do you think Brees haven't develop the timing and trust with Ginn or his arm is deteriorating? Is Sean Payton to trusting in Brees arm or is he just pig headed to run the ball Do they finally cut Harris and if so will they sign Jalen Collins Why not activate Muhammad? So many questions I will love to be answered

11-27-2017, 07:15 AM	#19
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,041	Re: We Had An Ugly Game The O-line does not get a pass. Brees made some dumb throws more than a few times in double and triple coverage but he did not have much time. spkb25 and Rell&Gold like this.
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11-27-2017, 07:29 AM	#20
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by darksoul35 The O-line does not get a pass. Brees made some dumb throws more than a few times in double and triple coverage but he did not have much time. Agreed. There was a lot of ugly O-line play out there yesterday. Pretty much all of them got their asses handed to them at one point or another. They made a ton of good plays too but this was not the best performance of the year for the group. spkb25, Rell&Gold and WHODATINCA like this.
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