We Had An Ugly Game

Crusader · 11-27-2017, 08:03 AM

I posted that tweet in another thread. I know a bunch of folks will say stuff like that shouldn't happen, they are pros and all that hoopla. The thing is it still does. You just kinda run out of energy, it is especially prone to happening after a big win like against the Redskins.
And if you have a bad week of practise it will usually show up on sunday.

And losing 2 starting CBs and a DE doesn't help either. The Rams are a good football team and you can't give them any slack at all. We play our worst game since week 2 and are still only a TD away thou, thats a positive.

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subguy · 11-27-2017, 08:10 AM

My only point about Drew is it appeared on a couple of the long balls he threw they were well under thrown. It has nothing to do with his accuracy or ability to throw 25 yards.

subguy · 11-27-2017, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Brees has never played the wade Phillips defense well, he always gets killed.

Today was particularly ugly, and I'll say the majority of the loss is on him. Defense sucked but did enough to give our offense a shot...

It is not a matter of calling for anyone's head, it was one game. I would only question Drew on his arm strength, at least on this day. Accuracy, hes is the king.

Beastmode · 11-27-2017, 09:21 AM

I thought things would go south when we started out passing. We are not that team anymore. Get back to pounding it and Snead more involved in the slot. Could have totally grinded out a W. The D did enough to keep us in it.

K Major · 11-27-2017, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

We probably needed to be humbled a little bit.

True but damn SP called a bad game. At this level, running the ball (even if it's not successful) has to be established. We obliterate the Bills & didn't nearly run it all first half of the Skins game as we could have. No need to get cute or overthink yourself. Rams were ranked #27th against the run yet on the opening drive we passed 100% of the time.

Kamara was in a zone yet he didn't touch the ball when we were on the goal line. Why not continue to do what's working until it doesn't work anymore? I remember Bill Parcells telling paying that he is "too pass happy" at times back during his OC days up in NY. Same still applied on yesterday.

Play calling was suspect on Sunday.

Euphoria · 11-27-2017, 10:47 AM

You can't run the ball that much if you are playing behind so much.

Rams played great for starters I think they deserve a lot of credit more than how bad we played. I also noticed how much bigger they are on all levels of the field.

We missed a lot of tackles and over all they were better.

K Major · 11-27-2017, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

You can't run the ball that much if you are playing behind so much.

So if you are down 7-0, are you still throwing the ball 100% of the time on the subsequent drive?

Euphoria · 11-27-2017, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

So if you are down 7-0, are you still throwing the ball 100% of the time on the subsequent drive?

It was 10 to nothing pretty quick and we were flat. There was enough runs to keep them honest but it wasn't just us the Rams came to play.

You can blame play calling all you want but when you get out played - nothing beats that.

K Major · 11-27-2017, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

It was 10 to nothing pretty quick and we were flat. There was enough runs to keep them honest but it wasn't just us the Rams came to play.

You can blame play calling all you want but when you get out played - nothing beats that.

Even after the 70+ yard TD by that stud Kamara, guess how many more carries he had the entire game? 4.

4 yard dink, screen, screen. C'mon coach, run the ball. This game was never out of hand to the point where you abandon the run. That's coaching.

NonieT · 11-27-2017, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Do you think Brees haven't develop the timing and trust with Ginn or his arm is deteriorating?

Is Sean Payton to trusting in Brees arm or is he just pig headed to run the ball

Do they finally cut Harris and if so will they sign Jalen Collins

Why not activate Muhammad? So many questions I will love to be answered

Now you know good and well the Saints are not going to sign Jalen Collins. He is probably done in the NFL and even if he isn't, he won't get is second chance with the Saints. They are probably stuck with Harris for the foreseeable future.

11-27-2017, 08:03 AM	#21
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Twitter I posted that tweet in another thread. I know a bunch of folks will say stuff like that shouldn't happen, they are pros and all that hoopla. The thing is it still does. You just kinda run out of energy, it is especially prone to happening after a big win like against the Redskins. And if you have a bad week of practise it will usually show up on sunday. And losing 2 starting CBs and a DE doesn't help either. The Rams are a good football team and you can't give them any slack at all. We play our worst game since week 2 and are still only a TD away thou, thats a positive. saintfan, subguy, RailBoss and 2 others like this.
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11-27-2017, 08:10 AM	#22
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	Re: We Had An Ugly Game My only point about Drew is it appeared on a couple of the long balls he threw they were well under thrown. It has nothing to do with his accuracy or ability to throw 25 yards.

11-27-2017, 08:12 AM	#23
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by blackangold Brees has never played the wade Phillips defense well, he always gets killed. Today was particularly ugly, and I'll say the majority of the loss is on him. Defense sucked but did enough to give our offense a shot... It is not a matter of calling for anyone's head, it was one game. I would only question Drew on his arm strength, at least on this day. Accuracy, hes is the king.

11-27-2017, 09:21 AM	#24
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: We Had An Ugly Game I thought things would go south when we started out passing. We are not that team anymore. Get back to pounding it and Snead more involved in the slot. Could have totally grinded out a W. The D did enough to keep us in it.
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11-27-2017, 10:36 AM	#25
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by ChrisXVI We probably needed to be humbled a little bit. True but damn SP called a bad game. At this level, running the ball (even if it's not successful) has to be established. We obliterate the Bills & didn't nearly run it all first half of the Skins game as we could have. No need to get cute or overthink yourself. Rams were ranked #27th against the run yet on the opening drive we passed 100% of the time. Kamara was in a zone yet he didn't touch the ball when we were on the goal line. Why not continue to do what's working until it doesn't work anymore? I remember Bill Parcells telling paying that he is "too pass happy" at times back during his OC days up in NY. Same still applied on yesterday. Play calling was suspect on Sunday. Rugby Saint II, ChrisXVI and MarchingOn like this.
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11-27-2017, 10:47 AM	#26
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: We Had An Ugly Game You can't run the ball that much if you are playing behind so much. Rams played great for starters I think they deserve a lot of credit more than how bad we played. I also noticed how much bigger they are on all levels of the field. We missed a lot of tackles and over all they were better. Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-27-2017, 10:49 AM	#27
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by Euphoria You can't run the ball that much if you are playing behind so much. So if you are down 7-0, are you still throwing the ball 100% of the time on the subsequent drive? nola_swammi likes this.

11-27-2017, 10:56 AM	#28
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by K Major So if you are down 7-0, are you still throwing the ball 100% of the time on the subsequent drive? It was 10 to nothing pretty quick and we were flat. There was enough runs to keep them honest but it wasn't just us the Rams came to play. You can blame play calling all you want but when you get out played - nothing beats that.

11-27-2017, 11:14 AM	#29
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by Euphoria It was 10 to nothing pretty quick and we were flat. There was enough runs to keep them honest but it wasn't just us the Rams came to play. You can blame play calling all you want but when you get out played - nothing beats that. Even after the 70+ yard TD by that stud Kamara, guess how many more carries he had the entire game? 4. 4 yard dink, screen, screen. C'mon coach, run the ball. This game was never out of hand to the point where you abandon the run. That's coaching. MarchingOn likes this.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: We Had An Ugly Game Originally Posted by nola_swammi Do you think Brees haven't develop the timing and trust with Ginn or his arm is deteriorating? Is Sean Payton to trusting in Brees arm or is he just pig headed to run the ball Do they finally cut Harris and if so will they sign Jalen Collins Why not activate Muhammad? So many questions I will love to be answered Now you know good and well the Saints are not going to sign Jalen Collins. He is probably done in the NFL and even if he isn't, he won't get is second chance with the Saints. They are probably stuck with Harris for the foreseeable future.
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