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K Major 03-15-2018 10:08 AM

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If it's top dollar Donkey Kong is after ... look no further than the Browns.

Halo 03-15-2018 10:39 AM

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Now saying we're bringing Suh in for workout....


ChrisXVI 03-15-2018 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 795295)
Now saying we're bringing Suh in for workout....

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/974307086011109377

No! What are we doing?!

SmashMouth 03-15-2018 10:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo (Post 795295)
Now saying we're bringing Suh in for workout....

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/974307086011109377

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 795296)
No! What are we doing?!



RaginCajun83 03-15-2018 10:44 AM

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The headache outweighs the production, if he's all about the money then hopefully the Saints pass

SmashMouth 03-15-2018 10:44 AM

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lee909 03-15-2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 795279)
I have changed my mind
Do not want him. He has apparently been saying doesn't care about fit or winning wants cash. Just like when he signed for Miami

I reserve the right to change this opinion if he signs

brees84 03-15-2018 11:09 AM

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Yeah, I have no problem in signing Suh. One thing you can't take away from him. He always produces. Dude gets paid and leaves everything on the football filed. Signing Suh will probably add 5+ sacks for Jordan and Hendrickson could have breakout year.

halloween 65 03-15-2018 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 795301)
I reserve the right to change this opinion if he signs

Well they are oviously understanding that they need another presence upfront, if we can't afford Suh when the dust settles come draft day if Vea is sitting there at #11, 12 or 13 I would love to trade down from 27, he might cost of a few picks but that's a young stud upfront for years to come and the line is young and growing.

foreverfan 03-15-2018 11:55 AM

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He wouldn't stink on the field but he certainly will in the locker room after the game.

blackangold 03-15-2018 12:03 PM

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When has Suh played for a winning team?

Suh is an intelligent guy, he has a aggression that needs to be controlled but he has also gotten more mature. If we can bring him in for the right price, we may end up with the best front 7 in the NFL.

DE- Jordan
DT- Rankins/Davison
DT- Suh
DE- Okafor?

SAM- Klein
MLB- Davis
WLB- Anzalone

rezburna 03-15-2018 12:03 PM

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I'm more concerned with the money. I haven't really heard anything about guys not liking Suh in the locker room. He was a team captain in Miami and Detroit. All his issues have really just been about him being a nasty, mean, and dirty player. I don't really care about that. How much is he going to cost? That's all that matters to me.

Halo 03-15-2018 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 795331)
I'm more concerned with the money. I haven't really heard anything about guys not liking Suh in the locker room. He was a team captain in Miami and Detroit. All his issues have really just been about him being a nasty, mean, and dirty player. I don't really care about that. How much is he going to cost? That's all that matters to me.

loomis+economics=LOOMINOMICS!!!!

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rezburna 03-15-2018 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 795334)

Dead Caponomics. LMAO!

K Major 03-15-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 795331)
I'm more concerned with the money. How much is he going to cost? That's all that matters to me.

IIRC Saints had like 1.5M in cap space & somehow signed JByrd a few years back? Then apparently the FO went after Josh Norman with about the same amount of cap space?

I'll put trust in the front office ... no matter what happens with Donkey Kong.

I keep telling myself ... we are in win now mode.

rezburna 03-15-2018 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 795336)
IIRC Saints had like 1.5M in cap space & somehow signed JByrd a few years back? Then apparently the FO went after Josh Norman with about the same amount of cap space?

I'll put trust in the front office ... no matter what happens with Donkey Kong.

I keep telling myself ... we are in win now mode.

True. Very true. Crabtree is probably about to become a free agent as well.

Suh
Badger
Crabtree

Draft

frydaddy 03-15-2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 795337)
True. Very true. Crabtree is probably about to become a free agent as well.

Suh
Badger
Crabtree

Draft

Lol imagine if they actually landed Suh and Mathieu. We could call our defense the Black and Golden State Defense. Wouldn't even be fair to the rest of the league......



Make it happen Loomis.

K Major 03-15-2018 12:29 PM

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Crabtree could definitely help take the burden off Mike Thomas.

Dallas (hometown/family) is only a 1 hr flight from New Orleans ;) ...

Euphoria 03-15-2018 12:35 PM

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He maybe playing for a winning team VERY SOON. Saints trying to bring him to New Oleans for a visit!!

Saints want Suh to visit – ProFootballTalk

Euphoria 03-15-2018 12:37 PM

SUH coming to New Orleans!?!?!
 
Hmmm... this is getting interesting.

Saints want Suh to visit – ProFootballTalk

voodooido 03-15-2018 12:41 PM

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Man I really hope not. Guy is not what we need. Locker room cancer unless he changes his stripes.

saintfan 03-15-2018 12:44 PM

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Maybe I'm just not well read, but I don't recall him being disliked in the locker room.

Also, people seem to be throwing rocks because he's after the money. Are they kidding? I'd be after the money too.

AsylumGuido 03-15-2018 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 795348)
Maybe I'm just not well read, but I don't recall him being disliked in the locker room.

Also, people seem to be throwing rocks because he's after the money. Are they kidding? I'd be after the money too.

I agree. I can't remember reading anything about him being an issue at all in the locker room. In fact, he's been voted a captain for most of his career.

jnormand 03-15-2018 01:00 PM

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Not a fan. Plus he's going to want a truck ton of money that will probably haunt us for years.

K Major 03-15-2018 01:01 PM

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Read a report from Garafolo stating that the Seahags offered Sheldon Richardson a deal worth approximately 11M so I wonder if that will be the barometer for Donkey Kong to sign in NO?

saintfan 03-15-2018 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 795352)
Read a report from Garafolo stating that the Seahags offered Sheldon Richardson a deal worth approximately 11M so I wonder if that will be the barometer for Donkey Kong to sign in NO?

I expect so - I guess I'm on the "lets get one or the other of those guys" wagon. I'm not sweating the money so long as it's not absurd. Loomie can pop another of his magic beans and get creative.

voodooido 03-15-2018 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 795348)
Maybe I'm just not well read, but I don't recall him being disliked in the locker room.

Also, people seem to be throwing rocks because he's after the money. Are they kidding? I'd be after the money too.


Any time you are suspended/fined multiple times a year it can't be good foe morale. Guy was making 22 million a year and couldn't stay out of trouble.

saintfan 03-15-2018 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 795357)
Any time you are suspended/fined multiple times a year it can't be good foe morale. Guy was making 22 million a year and couldn't stay out of trouble.

Anger management maybe, but that doesn't make him a cancer in the locker room. I think Rez posted in another thread that he was team captain @ the Lions and @ the Dolphins. That resonates to me more than anything.

Euphoria 03-15-2018 01:23 PM

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Yeah most of his problem is the on field / dirty playing style. He hasn't been on a real winner yet.

Mix him in with our fun loving/good times bunch. I can see him enjoying that style and changing his stripes.

I also didn't see him play for a coach as in your face no none-sense style like Payton. You either do your job or you are gone. So bringing him in is a win win. If not he'll be traded and out of here much like AP.

voodooido 03-15-2018 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 795361)
Yeah most of his problem is the on field / dirty playing style. He hasn't been on a real winner yet.

Mix him in with our fun loving/good times bunch. I can see him enjoying that style and changing his stripes.

I also didn't see him play for a coach as in your face no none-sense style like Payton. You either do your job or you are gone. So bringing him in is a win win. If not he'll be traded and out of here much like AP.

Can anyone see him taking less than 10 million a year? Not sure Saints have close the cap unless they back load it.

rezburna 03-15-2018 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 795362)
Can anyone see him taking less than 10 million a year? Not sure Saints have close the cap unless they back load it.

He's going to get his market value. I can't see him coming here unless he just really wants to win a Super Bowl. If I played any position that wasn't Quarterback, I wouldn't give a damn about a Super Bowl. Run me my MONEY!

CheramieIII 03-15-2018 01:37 PM

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He better be thinking Superbowl because his window is closing fast

triman 03-15-2018 01:53 PM

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He is going to get 14 Million on a two yr deal is my guess!!! He is the best player left in FA. Difference Maker

CheramieIII 03-15-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by triman (Post 795367)
He is going to get 14 Million on a two yr deal is my guess!!! He is the best player left in FA. Difference Maker

We can find a way to pay that!

Halo 03-15-2018 02:22 PM

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I think Dallas has lost interest in Suh (my speculation).
From what I'm reading, it sounds like the top 3 for Suh are:

Saints
Patriots
Seahawks

K Major 03-15-2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 795372)
I think Dallas has lost interest in Suh (my speculation).

Yep. Death star nation is hurting cap wise. They made a strong offer to Sammy Watkins a few days ago however the Chiefs outbid them.

brees84 03-15-2018 02:38 PM

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Poe just got 9 mil annually from panthers. And that money is for run stopper with no pass rush skills.

I'd pay Suh 13-14 mil.

voodooido 03-15-2018 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 795363)
He's going to get his market value. I can't see him coming here unless he just really wants to win a Super Bowl. If I played any position that wasn't Quarterback, I wouldn't give a damn about a Super Bowl. Run me my MONEY!

Question what is his "market value" right now. Since 2014 his sack total and tackles have dropped every year. Last year he only had 47 tackles and 4.5 sacks. That's barely better than what we have now at DT. At 31 yrs old I can't see those numbers improving to validate his contract.

Halo 03-15-2018 02:44 PM

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I think Suh is shopping and Saints have something to offer.
I think some of these players are looking at SuperBowl ability, especially Suh who has just followed the money.

I also think his value dipped a little since 2014.
Who knows what Loomis will come up with to offer?
Incentive front load or back load contract?
Base salary and some bonus or system?

We have to wait and see.

Papa Voodoo 03-15-2018 02:45 PM

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Bring him in, have a talk. If it goes well, make a fair offer but don't over extend. FO wouln't have done it's due diligence by not meeting with him.


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