Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 796322)

This is why I don't respect him as a player and don't really like the idea of him on the team, especially if he's paid the money he's asking for:

His rookie year saw the beginning of what would take Suh to a league record amount of fines for on-the-field behavior.[47] He was fined $7,500 in a preseason game against the Cleveland Browns for a facemask of Jake Delhomme, fined $5,000 for using an opponent as leverage on a field goal in a week 9 game against the Jets, and fined $15,000 in a week 13 game against the Bears for unnecessary roughness against quarterback Jay Cutler.

2011 season

Suh in 2011.
During the third quarter of the Lions' Thanksgiving game against the Green Bay Packers on November 24, 2011, Suh pushed Packers' offensive lineman Evan Dietrich-Smith's head into the ground three times, then stomped on his arm. All of this took place after the whistle was blown. Suh was penalized for unnecessary roughness and ejected from the game.[48] The resulting penalty gave the Packers an automatic first down. The Packers would score a touchdown two plays later, giving them a 14–0 lead and an eventual 27–15 victory.

Initially, Suh denied stomping on Dietrich-Smith, saying he was only trying to get his balance back.[49] However, on Friday morning, the Lions issued a statement calling Suh's actions "unacceptable". Within hours, Suh wrote on his Facebook page that he'd "made a mistake" a day before and intended to learn from it.[50] Fox Sports NFL rules analyst and former vice president of officiating Mike Pereira said that based on his knowledge of league discipline, "the question won’t be if the NFL will suspend Suh, but when—and for how many games". He drew parallels between Suh's actions and those of Albert Haynesworth, who drew a five-game suspension—the longest suspension for an on-field incident in modern NFL history—for stomping on Andre Gurode's head in 2006.[51]

On November 29, the NFL suspended Suh for two games without pay which was $165,294 in lost wages.[47] In announcing the decision, Roger Goodell noted that it was the fifth time Suh had been disciplined for on-field conduct.[52] Suh appealed the decision, and the NFL held an expedited hearing before former Oakland Raiders coach Art Shell, so that a decision could be handed down before the Lions' next game, on December 4, against the New Orleans Saints.[53] The appeal was turned down on December 2, forcing Suh to sit out the game against the Saints and the December 11 game against the Minnesota Vikings.[54]

Suh was named a Pro Bowl alternate for the NFC after the 2011 NFL season.[55] He finished the 2011 season with 4 sacks, a pass defended, and 26 tackles.

2012 season
During a Thanksgiving game on November 22, 2012, Suh was involved in a play in which he kicked Houston Texans quarterback Matt Schaub in the groin. The incident resulted in a $30,000 fine from the league, nearly double the mandated fine for a second offense of "striking/kicking/kneeing" an opponent.[56] There was speculation the size of the fine was recognition by the league of Suh's history of questionable on-field hits, while others viewed it as a "wishy-washy" and "cop-out" action by the league in issuing a large fine without a suspension.[56][57] In response, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said that "intent is something that’s very difficult for us to ever try to make a judgment on".[57] Suh denied the kick was intentional, stating his foot inadvertently hit Schaub as he was being dragged to the ground.[57] Suh finished 2012 with 8 sacks, 2 passes defended, and 25 tackles in 16 games (15 starts).

2013 season
In the Lions' Week 1 victory over the Minnesota Vikings, 34–24, Suh low blocked John Sullivan during a DeAndre Levy "pick 6"; the resulting personal foul nullified Levy's touchdown. Two days after the game, Suh was fined $100,000 for the hit—which, not counting lost pay for suspensions, is the largest fine ever issued to a player for on-the-field actions. He appealed the fine but the ruling was later upheld by the NFL.[58]

In the Lions' Week 6 victory over the Cleveland Browns, Suh tackled Browns QB Brandon Weeden in a questionable manner. Though not called for a penalty during the game, Suh was fined $31,500 by the NFL, but fine was later rescinded.[59]

During a Thanksgiving game against the Packers on November 28, 2013, Suh sacked Matt Flynn in the end zone, forcing a safety for the first time of his career. On November 29, 2013, Suh was fined $7,875 for performing a throat slash gesture during a game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

2014 season
Suh racked up 53 tackles and 8.5 sacks in the 2014 season. In Week 17, against the Green Bay Packers, Suh stepped on quarterback Aaron Rodgers' calf. Suh received a one-game suspension, seemingly barring him from the Wild Card playoff game the following week against the Dallas Cowboys; but on appeal, arbitrator Ted Cottrell reversed the suspension, opting instead for another fine worth $70,000. Suh played in the Wild Card matchup against the Cowboys and sacked Tony Romo twice.

Miami Dolphins
2015 season
On March 11, 2015, the Miami Dolphins announced that they had signed Suh to a six-year, $114 million contract with $60 million guaranteed. The contract made him the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history, passing Houston Texans defensive end J. J. Watt.[60][61][62]

During a game against the Washington Redskins on September 13, 2015, as Redskins' running back Alfred Morris was still lying on the ground following a tackle, Suh appeared to knock Morris's helmet off with his leg. The next day, the NFL announced that they would not discipline him, as "Suh's action was not deemed a kick".[63] Suh started all 16 games in 2015, finishing the season with 61 tackles, six sacks, and five passes defended. He was ranked 40th on the NFL Top 100 Players of 2016.[64]

2016
In 2016, Suh started all 16 games with 72 tackles, 5 sacks, and 6 passes defended. He was ranked 55th by his peers on the NFL Top 100 Players of 2017.[65]

2017
During Thursday Night Football against the Baltimore Ravens in Week 8, Suh committed two unnecessary roughness penalties, including one moment where he attempted to choke Ryan Mallett and shove him out of reach. Suh claimed that his choke on Mallett was a self-defense, thinking that Mallett tried to attack him firsthand. The Dolphins were shut out as they lost 40-0.[66][67]

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 796329)

Just a few items to ponder ...

1. The Lambs don't have a ton of money to pay SUH what he probably wants however they do have nice pieces in place (Aaron Donald, Brockers & Wade :argue:).

2. The Titans have a ton of cap space (that is all I can think of).

3. Saints would possibly have the best transition for SUH in a 4-3 run defense. One of the best offenses in all of football. We are in win now mode.

That's all I have ... for now :p.

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 796330)

However, if we hit on the draft like we have for 2 years straight we will be right up there in the mix again.

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 796330)

Rams would be an instant SB favourite if they added Suh, they are completely loaded on D already. Especially after adding Marcus Peters and Talib.

However, if we hit on the draft like we have for 2 years straight we will be right up there in the mix again.

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 796330)

Rams would be an instant SB favourite if they added Suh, they are completely loaded on D already. Especially after adding Marcus Peters and Talib.

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 796335)

and this just in

https://nesn.com/2018/03/nfl-rumors-...ese-two-teams/

I wish he would make the decision and get this crap over with so we can sign another DT

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 796322)

This is why I don't respect him as a player and don't really like the idea of him on the team, especially if he's paid the money he's asking for:

His rookie year saw the beginning of what would take Suh to a league record amount of fines for on-the-field behavior.[47] He was fined $7,500 in a preseason game against the Cleveland Browns for a facemask of Jake Delhomme, fined $5,000 for using an opponent as leverage on a field goal in a week 9 game against the Jets, and fined $15,000 in a week 13 game against the Bears for unnecessary roughness against quarterback Jay Cutler.

2011 season

Suh in 2011.
During the third quarter of the Lions' Thanksgiving game against the Green Bay Packers on November 24, 2011, Suh pushed Packers' offensive lineman Evan Dietrich-Smith's head into the ground three times, then stomped on his arm. All of this took place after the whistle was blown. Suh was penalized for unnecessary roughness and ejected from the game.[48] The resulting penalty gave the Packers an automatic first down. The Packers would score a touchdown two plays later, giving them a 14–0 lead and an eventual 27–15 victory.

Initially, Suh denied stomping on Dietrich-Smith, saying he was only trying to get his balance back.[49] However, on Friday morning, the Lions issued a statement calling Suh's actions "unacceptable". Within hours, Suh wrote on his Facebook page that he'd "made a mistake" a day before and intended to learn from it.[50] Fox Sports NFL rules analyst and former vice president of officiating Mike Pereira said that based on his knowledge of league discipline, "the question won’t be if the NFL will suspend Suh, but when—and for how many games". He drew parallels between Suh's actions and those of Albert Haynesworth, who drew a five-game suspension—the longest suspension for an on-field incident in modern NFL history—for stomping on Andre Gurode's head in 2006.[51]

On November 29, the NFL suspended Suh for two games without pay which was $165,294 in lost wages.[47] In announcing the decision, Roger Goodell noted that it was the fifth time Suh had been disciplined for on-field conduct.[52] Suh appealed the decision, and the NFL held an expedited hearing before former Oakland Raiders coach Art Shell, so that a decision could be handed down before the Lions' next game, on December 4, against the New Orleans Saints.[53] The appeal was turned down on December 2, forcing Suh to sit out the game against the Saints and the December 11 game against the Minnesota Vikings.[54]

Suh was named a Pro Bowl alternate for the NFC after the 2011 NFL season.[55] He finished the 2011 season with 4 sacks, a pass defended, and 26 tackles.

2012 season
During a Thanksgiving game on November 22, 2012, Suh was involved in a play in which he kicked Houston Texans quarterback Matt Schaub in the groin. The incident resulted in a $30,000 fine from the league, nearly double the mandated fine for a second offense of "striking/kicking/kneeing" an opponent.[56] There was speculation the size of the fine was recognition by the league of Suh's history of questionable on-field hits, while others viewed it as a "wishy-washy" and "cop-out" action by the league in issuing a large fine without a suspension.[56][57] In response, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said that "intent is something that’s very difficult for us to ever try to make a judgment on".[57] Suh denied the kick was intentional, stating his foot inadvertently hit Schaub as he was being dragged to the ground.[57] Suh finished 2012 with 8 sacks, 2 passes defended, and 25 tackles in 16 games (15 starts).

2013 season
In the Lions' Week 1 victory over the Minnesota Vikings, 34–24, Suh low blocked John Sullivan during a DeAndre Levy "pick 6"; the resulting personal foul nullified Levy's touchdown. Two days after the game, Suh was fined $100,000 for the hit—which, not counting lost pay for suspensions, is the largest fine ever issued to a player for on-the-field actions. He appealed the fine but the ruling was later upheld by the NFL.[58]

In the Lions' Week 6 victory over the Cleveland Browns, Suh tackled Browns QB Brandon Weeden in a questionable manner. Though not called for a penalty during the game, Suh was fined $31,500 by the NFL, but fine was later rescinded.[59]

During a Thanksgiving game against the Packers on November 28, 2013, Suh sacked Matt Flynn in the end zone, forcing a safety for the first time of his career. On November 29, 2013, Suh was fined $7,875 for performing a throat slash gesture during a game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

2014 season
Suh racked up 53 tackles and 8.5 sacks in the 2014 season. In Week 17, against the Green Bay Packers, Suh stepped on quarterback Aaron Rodgers' calf. Suh received a one-game suspension, seemingly barring him from the Wild Card playoff game the following week against the Dallas Cowboys; but on appeal, arbitrator Ted Cottrell reversed the suspension, opting instead for another fine worth $70,000. Suh played in the Wild Card matchup against the Cowboys and sacked Tony Romo twice.

Miami Dolphins
2015 season
On March 11, 2015, the Miami Dolphins announced that they had signed Suh to a six-year, $114 million contract with $60 million guaranteed. The contract made him the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history, passing Houston Texans defensive end J. J. Watt.[60][61][62]

During a game against the Washington Redskins on September 13, 2015, as Redskins' running back Alfred Morris was still lying on the ground following a tackle, Suh appeared to knock Morris's helmet off with his leg. The next day, the NFL announced that they would not discipline him, as "Suh's action was not deemed a kick".[63] Suh started all 16 games in 2015, finishing the season with 61 tackles, six sacks, and five passes defended. He was ranked 40th on the NFL Top 100 Players of 2016.[64]

2016
In 2016, Suh started all 16 games with 72 tackles, 5 sacks, and 6 passes defended. He was ranked 55th by his peers on the NFL Top 100 Players of 2017.[65]

2017
During Thursday Night Football against the Baltimore Ravens in Week 8, Suh committed two unnecessary roughness penalties, including one moment where he attempted to choke Ryan Mallett and shove him out of reach. Suh claimed that his choke on Mallett was a self-defense, thinking that Mallett tried to attack him firsthand. The Dolphins were shut out as they lost 40-0.[66][67]

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 796342)

This tread reminds me of getting crapped on...

https://i.imgur.com/RbwZ3bF.gif


https://media2.giphy.com/media/4Yyt7DYTj8nxm/giphy.gif

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 796391)

I'm not waiting and neither should the Saints. They should either go after Hankins or draft the best DT available with #27.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 796393)

Cheramie,

Who do you have in mind? The kid from Ohio State (Hubbard)? What if Dallas Goebert is there @ 27? I would like the Bama LB (Evans) however my spider senses tells me Sean will find his new toy on offense. Either at TE or WR.

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 796404)

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 796426)

Suh is gone.

If he is smart he'll sign with the Rams. If he is in it for the money and wants to ease through the season he'll sign with the Jets (who have no shot at a winning season).

What other DTs should we be looking at? I feel that is our biggest need right now (WR/TE as well).

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 796424)

J-E-T-S! JETS! JETS! JETS!

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/s...53390995640320

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/s...55094864564224

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 796431)

I'm not sold its our biggest need, but we do need some more talent there. Davison, Rankins and Onyemata ain't a bad rotation.

Originally Posted by SaintFanQ (Post 796496)

When will this ever end? :-)

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 796505)

I've thought a lot about Suh. TBH I've never been impressed with his play. I think he is one of the more overrated players in the NFL. He makes big plays from time to time, but there is something inconsistent about his play. Me not liking him has nothing to do with his mentality; I know some people on here don't want him cause they think he is a hothead or always gets in trouble. There are some "hothead" that I think are great players, that work hard, and play a well-rounded game. But, I think a lot of people misinterpret the trenches. They only see the "impact" plays that players make from time to time like a strip sack, and not the other stuff. I think he's lazy, I think he takes plays off, and is just a fundamentally inconsistent player. If we signed him I wouldn't be completely upset, but he's just not guy I'd take.

I think I'd actually prefer Hankins to him, though I'm not sure Hankins gives us what we need, so I don't think I'd sign him either. Suh to me is just not worth it.

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 796514)

Careful. There's people here who act like he's their long lost brother and take offense to anyone who doesn't want him on the team. Lol.

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 796523)

I don’t see much fighting between us on Suh.

I think folks are just impatient. Usually it doesn’t take this long for someone to sign, but Suh is being smart, he knows there is no other quality DTs on the market now. He is the last ‘good’ one standing and he is going to get paid for it.