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foreverfan 03-16-2018 12:51 AM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 795469)
Every one that is for signing suh, have you seen his stats the past 3 years? the money it would cost to sign him could be so much better spent. We have a de out there that played great before his injury. We could re-sign him for a quarter of the price and get more tackles/sacks. Save this money for depth. Saints don’t lack much now to be the front runner. Don’t waste 10-15 million a year on 43 tackles and 4 sacks!!!!!
The Saints are not going to pass him up if he come in.

Consider this... You can't double team 2 great DL and Cam Jordan much less the 4th DE. This would be a complete game changer for the total defense like you cannot imagine.

This would
  • help stop the running game at the line of scrimmage
  • free holes at the D-line giving LBs better holes to fill
  • help stop 3rd and 1 yard
  • give more pressure on defense in the 4th quarter
  • no doubt increase the pass rush and give the CBs less time to cover
  • make QBs worry more which could lead to both incompetitions and interceptions
  • increase offensive holding penalties and possibly more fumble recoveries
  • be the final key we need on defense to dominate for a Superbowl run.

SCREW THE MONEY. WE NEED TO WIN ANOTHER SUPERBOWL! :stupid:

After watching Drew Brees play for years while our defense was total crap, I can't believe any of you people are worried about this. :bugeyes: Some of you act like the money is coming our of your pockets.

:bandg:

http://www.crainium.net/jdjArchives/CatInHeat-thumb.jpg

saintsfan1976 03-16-2018 05:40 AM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 795491)
Stats don’t lie brother, 4.5 sacks and 43 tackles. His lowest output of his career. He might be disruptive but for 10+ million we need more than disruption.
Stats also don’t tell the whole story. Did Rankins out uo gaudy stats last season? No. But I’ll bet Cam will tell you Sheldon is a major reason for his success.

saintsfan1976 03-16-2018 05:42 AM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aquaboogie (Post 795515)
Was Ireland in Miami at any point while Suh was there? If so he can give the Front office some insight.
No. Ireland was fired a couple months prior.

saintsfan1976 03-16-2018 05:44 AM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 795518)
The Saints are not going to pass him up if he come in.

Consider this... You can't double team 2 great DL and Cam Jordan much less the 4th DE. This would be a complete game changer for the total defense like you cannot imagine.

This would
  • help stop the running game at the line of scrimmage
  • free holes at the D-line giving LBs better holes to fill
  • help stop 3rd and 1 yard
  • give more pressure on defense in the 4th quarter
  • no doubt increase the pass rush and give the CBs less time to cover
  • make QBs worry more which could lead to both incompetitions and interceptions
  • increase offensive holding penalties and possibly more fumble recoveries
  • be the final key we need on defense to dominate for a Superbowl run.

SCREW THE MONEY. WE NEED TO WIN ANOTHER SUPERBOWL! :stupid:

After watching Drew Brees play for years while our defense was total crap, I can't believe any of you people are worried about this. :bugeyes: Some of you act like the money is coming our of your pockets.

:bandg:

http://www.crainium.net/jdjArchives/CatInHeat-thumb.jpg
Exactly. Suh makes our entire defense better.

dizzle88 03-16-2018 05:59 AM
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There's no question Suh would massively help our D, as always with him it's the character concerns and locker room cancer risk.

voodooido 03-16-2018 06:54 AM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 795518)


[/U]After watching Drew Brees play for years while our defense was total crap, I can't believe any of you people are worried about this. :bugeyes: Some of you act like the money is coming our of your pockets.

:bandg:

http://www.crainium.net/jdjArchives/CatInHeat-thumb.jpg
Of course it’s not our money but it is limited money. It’s not like the Saints can act like the Yankees and buy whomever they want. There is a cap and unlike in baseball, the NFL has to obey it. I’m not saying Suh is trash. I’m saying he’s no longer worth the money he demands.

AsylumGuido 03-16-2018 07:08 AM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 795525)
There's no question Suh would massively help our D, as always with him it's the character concerns and locker room cancer risk.
The point is that he has not had locker room or off the field character concerns. His only knocks have all been on the field. He's the type of player that other players like to play "with" instead of "against".

darksoul35 03-16-2018 07:20 AM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
He may go overboard at times but I love the nastiness he would bring to our defense. He is a pass rushing DT that is good against the run. Our defensive line would be unstoppable.

CheramieIII 03-16-2018 07:27 AM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 795518)
The Saints are not going to pass him up if he come in.

Consider this... You can't double team 2 great DL and Cam Jordan much less the 4th DE. This would be a complete game changer for the total defense like you cannot imagine.

This would
  • help stop the running game at the line of scrimmage
  • free holes at the D-line giving LBs better holes to fill
  • help stop 3rd and 1 yard
  • give more pressure on defense in the 4th quarter
  • no doubt increase the pass rush and give the CBs less time to cover
  • make QBs worry more which could lead to both incompetitions and interceptions
  • increase offensive holding penalties and possibly more fumble recoveries
  • be the final key we need on defense to dominate for a Superbowl run.

SCREW THE MONEY. WE NEED TO WIN ANOTHER SUPERBOWL! :stupid:

After watching Drew Brees play for years while our defense was total crap, I can't believe any of you people are worried about this. :bugeyes: Some of you act like the money is coming our of your pockets.

:bandg:

http://www.crainium.net/jdjArchives/CatInHeat-thumb.jpg
Damn FF it must have taken you all night to write this but I like it a lot. I agree that Suh will not leave New Orleans without being a Saint first and if we could get a great DE, TE, WR and LT in the draft I would bet money on the Saints this season!

halloween 65 03-16-2018 08:20 AM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
I'm good if we get Suh but if we miss out Vea will be on the board come draft day for years to come, just sayin'.

FinSaint 03-16-2018 09:59 AM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Vea is not going to be there when the Saints pick, so they would need to trade up to get him, which is unlikely.

jnormand 03-16-2018 10:14 AM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Anyone on the Suh wagon should read this. Just sayin.

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf...r_mobile_index

foreverfan 03-16-2018 10:39 AM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 795533)
Damn FF it must have taken you all night to write this but I like it a lot. I agree that Suh will not leave New Orleans without being a Saint first and if we could get a great DE, TE, WR and LT in the draft I would bet money on the Saints this season!
I had a cat that was in heat. :D

Can't wait for the draft.

The Dude 03-16-2018 10:47 AM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Does he really have anything left?

SmashMouth 03-16-2018 11:47 AM
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Suh at Saints facility now.


https://media.giphy.com/media/1ptVnxgKvFzgI/giphy.gif

SmashMouth 03-16-2018 11:59 AM
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jeanpierre 03-16-2018 12:00 PM
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Update: Halo msg me questioning integrity of this Twitter Acct, it's not looking legit...

jeanpierre 03-16-2018 12:01 PM
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saintsfan1976 03-16-2018 12:02 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 795574)
Butler?? Who needs Butler NOW???

Halo 03-16-2018 12:11 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
These are FAKE twitter accounts from testimony from other users.
Be sure to scrutinize the sources.
Thanks for posting regardless!! :bng:

CheramieIII 03-16-2018 12:15 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 795567)
Dat's what I'm talking about

foreverfan 03-16-2018 12:42 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Sooie Sooie... We are calling you.

http://images.performgroup.com/di/li...960&quality=70

FinSaint 03-16-2018 02:39 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 795575)
Butler?? Who needs Butler NOW???
Butler who?!

CheramieIII 03-16-2018 02:40 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
If we're talking Malcolm in the Middle then he's already been overpaid and not by us, YEA!

FinSaint 03-16-2018 02:49 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 795615)
If we're talking Malcolm in the Middle then he's already been overpaid and not by us, YEA!
That's why I asked 'cos I wasn't aware of another FA with that last name.

halloween 65 03-16-2018 03:00 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 795544)
Vea is not going to be there when the Saints pick, so they would need to trade up to get him, which is unlikely.
I know!! Over the Ireland years we've done good

Halo 03-16-2018 03:44 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Suh's visit with the Saints isn't until later and possibly tonight.

CheramieIII 03-16-2018 03:49 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halo (Post 795633)
Suh's visit with the Saints isn't until later and possibly tonight.
Who said that? It's already 5 est?

Halo 03-16-2018 03:53 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 795635)
Who said that? It's already 5 est?
I heard it on the radio here in New Orleans a while ago, AM1280.
It's not even 4pm CST. What if he flies in to meet at 6:30pm CST??
I don't know anymore details.

Danno 03-16-2018 03:59 PM
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Mixed feelings about Suh.

All-world talent, all-world knucklehead.

I won't complain if we get him, but won't cry if we don't.

73Saint 03-16-2018 04:07 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 795637)
Mixed feelings about Suh.

All-world talent, all-world knucklehead.

I won't complain if we get him, but won't cry if we don't.
completely agree

Danno 03-16-2018 04:14 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 73Saint (Post 795643)
completely agree
I think most probably feel the same way we do.

If we get the good Suh, we should be flat dominant on defense and likely the NFCCG co-favorite with the Vikes.

If we get the bad Suh, we could get screwed even worse than with the Galette deal.

nola_swammi 03-16-2018 04:26 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
I don't know if comparing Suh to Galete is fair. Galete divided the locker room, disrespected the coach and teammates, and had off field problems. Suh is well respected by his teammates and coaches. No off field problems I am aware of, however he is a DIRTY player.

I completely agree with Danno, I won't complain if we sign him, but won't cry if we don't.

What Richardson sign for going to determine most likely if we sign Suh

Rsanders24 03-16-2018 05:35 PM
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Richardson signed a 1yr/11M deal...if we could do that with incentive based escalators I’d be ok..but I want to make sure he wants to earn that pay...

jeanpierre 03-16-2018 07:09 PM
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ChrisXVI 03-16-2018 07:13 PM
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Even though I was against trying to sign him, I’ll be disappointed at this point if he leaves without a deal. I’ve invested way too much time hitting refresh waiting for an announcement.

Halo 03-16-2018 07:14 PM
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https://twitter.com/MikeTriplett/sta...487960578?s=20

CheramieIII 03-16-2018 07:20 PM
Re: Ndamukong Suh Thread (MERGED)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 795673)
Commanders Palace

Appetizer
Shrimp & Tasso Henican

Entrees
New Orleans Barbecued Gulf Shrimp
Griddle Seared Gulf Fish
Boudin Stuffed Quail

Desert
Creole Bread Pudding Soufflé

Palate Cleanser
11,000,000.00 1 year with a team option for 2

ChrisXVI 03-16-2018 08:58 PM
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Fletcher Mackel
@FletcherWDSU
I’m told @Emerils it is for the #Saints Suh dinner.
Bring him in @@Emeril

Lord_Saint83 03-16-2018 09:30 PM
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Well emeril better be back there bamming the hell out of that food for suh


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