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K Major 10-12-2018 07:13 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
MLB (2) 51 - Manti Te'o (OUT) ... any word on Manti?

It seems like he 's been out for over a month now.

AsylumGuido 10-12-2018 07:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 818013)
MLB (2) 51 - Manti Te'o (OUT) ... any word on Manti?

It seems like he 's been out for over a month now.
He returned to practice last Thursday, but was limited (knee). They probably felt giving him through the bye would be best. I'll bet he's back to face the Ravens.

jeanpierre 10-12-2018 07:29 AM
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Te'o has, at least, started practicing again; still was a big mistake to let Stupar go - don't know why but he is a starter quality LBer in this league...

K Major 10-12-2018 08:01 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 818016)
Te'o has, at least, started practicing again; still was a big mistake to let Stupar go - don't know why but he is a starter quality LBer in this league...
Stupar is still a back up to B.J. Goodson.

jeanpierre 10-13-2018 03:34 PM
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jeanpierre 10-13-2018 03:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 818019)
Stupar is still a back up to B.J. Goodson.
Stupar might've appeared to be a weak link, but that opossum always made plays...

MarchingOn 10-13-2018 04:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 817772)
A bit too tentative for my taste. At the LB position, you have to move and make a decision quickly. Alex doesn't do that at all. Very concerning for me.

I still believe the past shoulder injuries have him "whiffing" on tackles. It's in his mind (mental) now.
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I've been avoiding saying it for a while now on Anz (since that draft day) because surely I cannot notice his flaws (by watching a single game) less than those who drafted him.

In his Sr bowl, I watched him closely after seeing a white guy with long hair when we needed a LB badly. He flashed in speed (and hair) only.

Was out of position or running into the trash. We already had enough LBs doing that.

Made just enough plays (when it didn't "matter") that his stats and other flash could fool an evaluator just enough to make them think they could coach him up.

Thought "mistake" from that day. Don't care how fast he is. Don't care if he can cover. He's a liability on the field.

Robertson is way better. Maybe even Klein. Klein appeared better at Carolina at least.

Whoever among the Saints drafters who falls in love with speedy LBs needs to be ignored.

jeanpierre 10-14-2018 09:16 AM
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Well here's my theory on Saints linebackers during the Payton era, specifically addressing Robertson, Stupar...

I believe Robertson, Stupar sit because they'd break from D.A.'s scheme and made plays and because of not staying within the D.A.'s flawed system, they're not trusted...

I do believe Anzalone and Klein both can be excellent linebackers, have more than enough talent, but they trust D.A.'s terrible schemes and play, but end up looking worse for it...

jeanpierre 10-16-2018 08:16 AM
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AsylumGuido 10-16-2018 09:00 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 818019)
Stupar is still a back up to B.J. Goodson.
He's even behind Tae Davis on the depth chart.

ChrisXVI 10-16-2018 04:34 PM
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AsylumGuido 10-16-2018 04:42 PM
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Bottom shifting.

jeanpierre 10-16-2018 10:16 PM
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jeanpierre 10-17-2018 07:01 AM
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – Week 6 - Saints @ BYE

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (2018 via Trade), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 41 - Alvin Kamara, 27 - Dwayne Washington (FA - 2018), 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018)

WR-X (1) 13 - Michael Thomas

WR-S (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 80 - Austin Carr

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA - 2018)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 61 - Josh LeRibeus (FA 2018)

C (3) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom (OUT)

RG (1) 67 - Larry Warford

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk

TE (3) 82 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 85 - Dan Arnold, 89 - Josh Hill

WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn (OUT), 10 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91)

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 92 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14)

NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA 2018)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LDE (3) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson (OUT), 70 - Mitchell Loewen

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 52 - Craig Robertson

MLB (2) 51 - Manti Te'o (OUT), LB 59 - Vince Biegel (FA - 2018)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 47 - Alex Anzalone

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 32 - Josh Robinson (FA 2018)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo

SS (3) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell, 48 - J.T. Gray (UDFA 2018)

RCB (3) 23 - Marshon Lattimore (OUT), 34 - Justin Hardee, 39 - Demetri Goodson (FA 2018)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)

PR (*) 7 - Taysom Hill, 41 - Alvin Kamara


Active Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 24; Defense: 26; Kicking: 3


Practice Squad

RB 30 - Boston Scott (NO R6, #201)

WR 15 - Tanner McEvoy (SEA UDFA - 2016)

WR 18 - Keith Kirkwood (NO UDFA - 2018)

TE 45 - Garrett Griffin (NO UDFA - 2016)

OG 73 - Will Holden (AZ R5, #157)

OT 79 - Nate Wozniak (NO UDFA - 2018)

DE 99 - Tomasi Laulile (IND UDFA - 2018)

LB 44 - Darnell Sankey (DEN UDFA - 2016)

NB 28 - Darius Hillary (CIN UDFA - 2016)

NB 33 - Chris Lammons (ATL UDFA - 2018)

*69 DE - Alex Jenkins (NFL IPPP)


Reserve/Injured

WR 14 - Travin Dural (RFC)

FS 46 - Rickey Jefferson (FA - 2018)

TE 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui

WR 11 - Tommylee Lewis

CB 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018)


Reserve/Physically Unable To Perform (PUP)

36 - Daniel Lasco


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Signed (FA 2018)

Rookie

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

*Note: NFL Int'l Player Pathway Program (NFL IPPP) roster spot exempt

jeanpierre 10-17-2018 04:33 PM
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AsylumGuido 10-17-2018 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 818650)
Don't overwork those key players!

jeanpierre 10-18-2018 08:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 818652)
Don't overwork those key players!
Get that, but it's slightly worrisome Peat's recover from his fracture has been longer than expected; Armstead gets the press, when he plays, but Peat is the big neutralizer we need vs Vikes, Rams...

AsylumGuido 10-18-2018 09:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 818711)
Get that, but it's slightly worrisome Peat's recover from his fracture; Armstead gets the press, when he plays, but Peat is the big neutralizer we need vs Vikes, Rams...
My point on Peat and the others "limited" was that there's no reason to go full practice with recovering players on a Wednesday. They are just being conservative and making sure that they will be there for Sunday. My bet is that by Friday they'll all be back up to full participation. Pat Kirwan said recently on NFL Radio that Wednesday practice reports are fairly meaningless and the ones to pay attention to are the Friday ones. It was in response to a caller. He said that fans have a tendency to overreact and Jim Miller responded with something along the lines of "You think?" and they both laughed.

By the way, for anyone, Moving the Chains on XM/Sirius NFL Radio is the best, most informative show involving the NFL I have ever heard. It is a must listen!

jeanpierre 10-18-2018 03:08 PM
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jeanpierre 10-18-2018 03:10 PM
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jeanpierre 10-18-2018 03:11 PM
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – Week 7 - Saints @ Ravens

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (2018 via Trade), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 41 - Alvin Kamara, 27 - Dwayne Washington (FA - 2018), 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018)

WR-X (1) 13 - Michael Thomas

WR-S (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 80 - Austin Carr

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA - 2018)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 61 - Josh LeRibeus (FA 2018)

C (3) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Michael Ola (FA 2018)

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk

TE (3) 82 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 85 - Dan Arnold, 89 - Josh Hill

WR-Z (1) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91)

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 92 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14)

NT (3) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018), 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA 2018) (DNP)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LDE (3) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 70 - Mitchell Loewen

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 52 - Craig Robertson

MLB (2) 51 - Manti Te'o, LB 59 - Vince Biegel (FA - 2018)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 47 - Alex Anzalone

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 32 - Josh Robinson (FA 2018)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo

SS (3) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell, 48 - J.T. Gray (UDFA 2018)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)

PR (*) 7 - Taysom Hill, 41 - Alvin Kamara


Active Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 24; Defense: 26; Kicking: 3


Practice Squad

RB 30 - Boston Scott (NO R6, #201)

WR 18 - Keith Kirkwood (NO UDFA - 2018)

WR 19 - Shane Wynn (ATL, NO UDFA - 2015)

TE 45 - Garrett Griffin (NO UDFA - 2016)

OG 73 - Will Holden (AZ R5, #157)

OT 79 - Nate Wozniak (NO UDFA - 2018)

DE 99 - Tomasi Laulile (IND UDFA - 2018)

LB 44 - Darnell Sankey (DEN UDFA - 2016)

CB 00 - Chris Campbell (ARZ R6, #201)

NB 33 - Chris Lammons (ATL UDFA - 2018)

*69 DE - Alex Jenkins (NFL IPPP)


Reserve/Injured

WR 14 - Travin Dural (RFC)

FS 46 - Rickey Jefferson (FA - 2018)

TE 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui

WR 11 - Tommylee Lewis

CB 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018)

WR 19 - Ted Ginn



Reserve/Physically Unable To Perform (PUP)

36 - Daniel Lasco


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Signed (FA 2018)

Rookie

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

*Note: NFL Int'l Player Pathway Program (NFL IPPP) roster spot exempt

jeanpierre 10-18-2018 03:26 PM
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jeanpierre 10-18-2018 04:50 PM
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jeanpierre 10-19-2018 02:42 PM
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AsylumGuido 10-19-2018 02:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 818871)
Bushrod's absence isn't injury related. Payton said it was a personal matter. He should be ready for game time.

K Major 10-19-2018 03:01 PM
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Manti Te'o ? I hadn't hear much on him as of late.

AsylumGuido 10-19-2018 04:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 818877)
Manti Te'o ? I hadn't hear much on him as of late.
He's not on the final injury report for the week so he must be full go.

Quote:
Saints O-line appears to be suffering at the wrong time. G Andrus Peat (head/concussion) did not practice and is out Sunday. Also not practicing were G/T Jermon Bushrod (NIR) and DT Taylor Stallworth (ankle). Bushrod is questionable and Stallworth is out. G Larry Warford who first appeared on Thursday’s injury report with a (back) is questionable. T Terron Armstead (knee), WR Cameron Meredith (knee), and CB Marshon Lattimore (concussion) were all full and are expected to play.

For the Ravens G Alex Lewis (neck) is listed as out. Both he and CB Marlon Humphrey (thigh) did not practice. Humphrey is listed as questionable. Anthony Averett (hamstring) was limited and is listed as questionable. DB/LB Anthony Levine, Sr. (hamstring) was listed as full but questionable. Also listed a full were WR John Brown (NIR), CB Brandon Carr (knee) and S Eric Weddle (NIR) and are expected to play.

Against The Ravens defensive front is not the time you want your O-line to weakened.

jeanpierre 10-19-2018 04:25 PM
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jeanpierre 10-19-2018 04:27 PM
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jeanpierre 10-19-2018 04:29 PM
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jeanpierre 10-19-2018 04:30 PM
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2018 New Orleans Saints – Week 7 - Saints @ Ravens

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees (FA 2018), 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (2018 via Trade), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 41 - Alvin Kamara, 27 - Dwayne Washington (FA - 2018), 42 - Zach Line (FA 2018)

WR-X (1) 13 - Michael Thomas

WR-S (2) 81 - Cameron Meredith (RFA 2018), 80 - Austin Carr

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 74 - Jermon Bushrod (FA - 2018)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat (OUT), 61 - Josh LeRibeus (FA 2018)

C (3) 60 - Max Unger, 64 - Will Clapp (R7, #245), 63 - Cameron Tom

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Michael Ola (FA 2018)

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk

TE (3) 82 - Ben Watson (FA 2018), 85 - Dan Arnold, 89 - Josh Hill

WR-Z (1) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith (R3, #91)

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor (FA 2018), 92 - Marcus Davenport (R1, #14)

NT (3) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 99 - Jay Bromley (FA 2018), 76 - Taylor Stallworth (UDFA 2018) (OUT)

DT3 (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LDE (3) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 70 - Mitchell Loewen

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis (FA 2018), 52 - Craig Robertson

MLB (2) 51 - Manti Te'o, LB 59 - Vince Biegel (FA - 2018)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 47 - Alex Anzalone

LCB (3) 20 - Ken Crawley, 26 - P.J. Williams, 32 - Josh Robinson (FA 2018)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo

SS (3) 29 - Kurt Coleman (FA 2018), 24 - Vonn Bell, 48 - J.T. Gray (UDFA 2018)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (FA 2018)

PR (*) 7 - Taysom Hill, 41 - Alvin Kamara


Active Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 24; Defense: 26; Kicking: 3


Practice Squad

RB 30 - Boston Scott (NO R6, #201)

WR 18 - Keith Kirkwood (NO UDFA - 2018)

WR 19 - Shane Wynn (ATL, NO UDFA - 2015)

TE 45 - Garrett Griffin (NO UDFA - 2016)

OG 73 - Will Holden (AZ R5, #157)

OT 79 - Nate Wozniak (NO UDFA - 2018)

DE 99 - Tomasi Laulile (IND UDFA - 2018)

LB 44 - Darnell Sankey (DEN UDFA - 2016)

CB 00 - Chris Campbell (ARZ R6, #201)

NB 33 - Chris Lammons (ATL UDFA - 2018)

*69 DE - Alex Jenkins (NFL IPPP)


Reserve/Injured

WR 14 - Travin Dural (RFC)

FS 46 - Rickey Jefferson (FA - 2018)

TE 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui

WR 11 - Tommylee Lewis

CB 21 - Patrick Robinson (FA 2018)

WR 19 - Ted Ginn



Reserve/Physically Unable To Perform (PUP)

36 - Daniel Lasco


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Signed (FA 2018)

Rookie

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

*Note: NFL Int'l Player Pathway Program (NFL IPPP) roster spot exempt

jeanpierre 10-20-2018 10:11 PM
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AsylumGuido 10-22-2018 11:47 AM
Re: 2018 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 819006)
Could this be a sign Bridgewater is on his way out as a part of a trade deal?

turbo_dog 10-22-2018 12:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 819321)
Could this be a sign Bridgewater is on his way out as a part of a trade deal?
Jaguars have to be looking for a QB. They have two top 10 CBs in Ramsey and Bouye.

jeanpierre 10-23-2018 06:55 PM
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