Saints among teams planning private workout with Baker Mayfield

voodooido · 03-08-2018, 01:23 PM

6 days and counting until d-Day. We sign drew before the 14th or we get a cap hit of 18 million reguardless if he signs.

AsylumGuido · 03-08-2018, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

6 days and counting until d-Day. We sign drew before the 14th or we get a cap hit of 18 million reguardless if he signs.

No reason to do the deal before the last moment. It would be best to have all options still open until then. Something may come up that requires the deal to be structured in a certain manner. That's why I feel the bulk of the deal is already worked out with cap implications still flexible.

voodooido · 03-08-2018, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No reason to do the deal before the last moment. It would be best to have all options still open until then. Something may come up that requires the deal to be structured in a certain manner. That's why I feel the bulk of the deal is already worked out with cap implications still flexible.

Hope your right. Feel like im waiting on a pregnancy test........

ChrisXVI · 03-08-2018, 04:21 PM

We did the same with Patrick Mahomes last year because we planned on drafting him if he was available.

Kansas City had the same pick as us last year (27) and to trade up to 10 it only cost them #27, #91 and this year’s 1st.

If Payton wants him bad enough and he’s still available at 10 I wouldn’t be surprised if we made that same trade.

AsylumGuido · 03-08-2018, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

We did the same with Patrick Mahomes last year because we planned on drafting him if he was available.

Kansas City had the same pick as us last year (27) and to trade up to 10 it only cost them #27, #91 and this year’s 1st.

If Payton wants him bad enough and he’s still available at 10 I wouldn’t be surprised if we made that same trade.

KC did it because they were moving on from their QB. If they know and believe what Brees says about playing well into his forties then it would not make sense.

ChrisXVI · 03-08-2018, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

KC did it because they were moving on from their QB. If they know and believe what Brees says about playing well into his forties then it would not make sense.

Not really up to Brees. If Payton wants to start grooming a young QB he will.

AsylumGuido · 03-08-2018, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Not really up to Brees.

No, but why would the Saints choose to move on from him if he looks likely to keep performing as the elite QB that he is for the foreseeable future?

I can see your point if he was struggling and clearly on a major decline, but he just set the NFL record for completion percentage and led the team to what could/should have been another appearance in at leas the NFC championship game.

AsylumGuido · 03-08-2018, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Not really up to Brees. If Payton wants to start grooming a young QB he will.

Oh! I see you edited your post during my response.

Yes, I can see him grooming a new QB, but I cannot see Payton selling out the immediate future to do so. Payton knows that the Saints are in a two to three year window with the dynamic young talent and the next few productive years of his Hall of Fame QB's career. I don't see him throwing away vital picks that could be used for pieces needed today for a future QB that he may very likely never even coach.

WillSaints81 · 03-08-2018, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Not really up to Brees. If Payton wants to start grooming a young QB he will.

Brady wanted JG gone in NE. I'm curious how Brees would take this.

WillSaints81 · 03-08-2018, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

We did the same with Patrick Mahomes last year because we planned on drafting him if he was available.

Kansas City had the same pick as us last year (27) and to trade up to 10 it only cost them #27, #91 and this year’s 1st.

If Payton wants him bad enough and he’s still available at 10 I wouldn’t be surprised if we made that same trade.

If we do that we don't have a pick in the first two rounds to get any other players at defense. I guess the draft does not matter for maintaining a good defense down the road.

03-08-2018, 01:23 PM	#1
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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,850	Re: Saints among teams planning private workout with Baker Mayfield Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No reason to do the deal before the last moment. It would be best to have all options still open until then. Something may come up that requires the deal to be structured in a certain manner. That's why I feel the bulk of the deal is already worked out with cap implications still flexible. Hope your right. Feel like im waiting on a pregnancy test........ jnormand, Rugby Saint II, darksoul35 and 2 others like this.
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints among teams planning private workout with Baker Mayfield We did the same with Patrick Mahomes last year because we planned on drafting him if he was available. Kansas City had the same pick as us last year (27) and to trade up to 10 it only cost them #27, #91 and this year’s 1st. If Payton wants him bad enough and he’s still available at 10 I wouldn’t be surprised if we made that same trade.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Saints among teams planning private workout with Baker Mayfield Originally Posted by ChrisXVI We did the same with Patrick Mahomes last year because we planned on drafting him if he was available. Kansas City had the same pick as us last year (27) and to trade up to 10 it only cost them #27, #91 and this year’s 1st. If Payton wants him bad enough and he’s still available at 10 I wouldn’t be surprised if we made that same trade. KC did it because they were moving on from their QB. If they know and believe what Brees says about playing well into his forties then it would not make sense.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints among teams planning private workout with Baker Mayfield Originally Posted by AsylumGuido KC did it because they were moving on from their QB. If they know and believe what Brees says about playing well into his forties then it would not make sense. Not really up to Brees. If Payton wants to start grooming a young QB he will. foreverfan, voodooido and MarchingOn like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Saints among teams planning private workout with Baker Mayfield Originally Posted by voodooido 6 days and counting until d-Day. We sign drew before the 14th or we get a cap hit of 18 million reguardless if he signs. No reason to do the deal before the last moment. It would be best to have all options still open until then. Something may come up that requires the deal to be structured in a certain manner. That's why I feel the bulk of the deal is already worked out with cap implications still flexible. Rugby Saint II and Real Saint like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Saints among teams planning private workout with Baker Mayfield Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Not really up to Brees. No, but why would the Saints choose to move on from him if he looks likely to keep performing as the elite QB that he is for the foreseeable future? I can see your point if he was struggling and clearly on a major decline, but he just set the NFL record for completion percentage and led the team to what could/should have been another appearance in at leas the NFC championship game. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Saints among teams planning private workout with Baker Mayfield Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Not really up to Brees. If Payton wants to start grooming a young QB he will. Oh! I see you edited your post during my response. Yes, I can see him grooming a new QB, but I cannot see Payton selling out the immediate future to do so. Payton knows that the Saints are in a two to three year window with the dynamic young talent and the next few productive years of his Hall of Fame QB's career. I don't see him throwing away vital picks that could be used for pieces needed today for a future QB that he may very likely never even coach. ChrisXVI likes this.

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: Saints among teams planning private workout with Baker Mayfield Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Not really up to Brees. If Payton wants to start grooming a young QB he will. Brady wanted JG gone in NE. I'm curious how Brees would take this.

03-08-2018, 08:54 PM	#10
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: Saints among teams planning private workout with Baker Mayfield Originally Posted by ChrisXVI We did the same with Patrick Mahomes last year because we planned on drafting him if he was available. Kansas City had the same pick as us last year (27) and to trade up to 10 it only cost them #27, #91 and this year’s 1st. If Payton wants him bad enough and he’s still available at 10 I wouldn’t be surprised if we made that same trade. If we do that we don't have a pick in the first two rounds to get any other players at defense. I guess the draft does not matter for maintaining a good defense down the road.

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