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Yes, except our main weakness remains stopping the run up the middle.

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The best talented team the Saints ever had was that 2011 team that could not scheme to stop Vernon Davis for two plays in that fateful playoff game. We may be close or better this time around too, but still need talent to fill depth, especially at OL. Let's see who they get today.

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Now that we have a larger sample size we’ve seen Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, and Colin Kaepernick in recent Super Bowls. I don’t believe Jackson has any less issues with accuracy than a Newton or Kaepernick, and if you follow his college career he improved as a passer every year. He progressed through his reads, looked to pass first, and could fit it into some tight windows. NFL offenses are going to change the more and more they continue to let this style of QB in the league. At worse he’s Tyrod Taylor, and Taylor led that sorry Bills team to the playoffs. Of course, this is all just my own analysis.

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Let it go man.

Sean has a vision for Marcus D ... much like he did to get Alvin Kamara.

If and when Davenport becomes a STUD, no one will care what was invested.

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Rick Leonard - Tackle

Converted DE and started 13 games for BC in 2017 at right tackle

Okay pick but another project.... we had a lot of injuries up front last year.

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The scouting report on nfl.com is terrible

Lacks fundamentals
Should land on a Practice squad

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This draft is reminding me of the 2014 one so far, a lot of picks on guys that have the words "raw, high upside and potential"

We know how that worked out, SJB, Davis tull etc

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Why when draft look like they drafted awful prospect the blame is on Payton but when it turn out to be a exceptional pick Ireland is the reason? :/

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I am gonna say it and will gladly eat my words if I am wrong. THESE DRAFT PICKS STINKS and I wont be surprise if all of them is out the league in 3 years. At least when Dikta trade every pick we still had Ricky Williams for some years and was able to trade him for a 1st rd pick to Miami.

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Have you seen any of these players take the field yet for the Saints?

If not ... :rolleyes:

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Its a opinion so don't get your panties in a bunch....I said I won't be surprised if they're out the league in 3 years....OPINION!!

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I have to be quite honest and say I have never watched a UTSA game and knew very little about Mr. Davenport.

Been reading and watching everything about him now and I like the pick.

When you have a small-school prospect like this you wanna see him dominate the competition and he does that, oftentimes destroying it.

He seems like very grounded person. Articulate and comes across as mature and intelligent in interviews. That should help him make the jump.

His physical stats are obviously off the charts. If he can live up to his physical potential he will be worth 5 first rounders.

What I like the very best about him thou is something he said in an interview when asked about the best part of his game;
"My work ethic" was the answer and with an that gives me great hope that his potential is within reach for him, he seems to understand whats needed to reach it.

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Interesting fact
2017 we had 5 picks in the top 76, all starting for us
2018 we had 1 pick in the top 90 ( our 2nd pick was pick 91)

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In other words, if we only get one starter from this draft it ends up being as good as last year's. Two starters would make it better.

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You know what? Zach Strief makes a very good point here and calms some of my worries about the Davenport situation...

Zach Strief
@ZachStrief
Elite defensive ends cost either very high draft picks or LOTS of money. If you find one you love, I'd MUCH rather hit on one in the draft than HOPE one becomes available in free agency. Trust your assessment and get the guy you believe in.
7:10 AM · Apr 29, 2018

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This echos what the draft analyst (can't remember which guy) on the NFL Network said following the trade and selection. After the speculation that the trade was made to move up to get a QB, he said that DE is the only other position that would warrant this type of move. Given the scarcity of impact making edge rushers in the league today I agree completely!

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I think it's a great pick. Swing for the fences. We need to win now. Drew won't be here forever and whoever comes next will not be as good so suring up the defense and adding OL to help the run game and pass protection will help once Drew leaves.

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My "panties" aren't wadded at all. :D It just appears that there are a few pairs around that definitely are, though.

:p

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I'm fine with Ryan Nielsen getting the guy he wants. If you weren't paying attention, ALL of his D lineman from NC State were drafted this year. ALL of them.

Besides, not the FA market for DEs in 2019 is that great either....
2019 NFL Free Agents Tracker | Spotrac

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And I'm tired of hearing people say we "Gave up two draft picks..."

It's so wildly inaccurate I'm shocked guys like Tripplette keep saying it.

We swapped firsts (net net) and gave a (likely) LOW first rounder and 5th rounder in 2019.

In return we selected a 6'6" DE who's improved every single season he's played the position.

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True, we "gave up" a first to move up to nab what may be the missing ingredient for a Superbowl team.

I can't think of another position on this team that we needed as badly as a DE opposite Jordan. Maybe another high quality DT to rotate with Davison? Hughes may end up being that guy tho.

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The more I read about this guy the more I like him. He has all the characteristics that you want in a DE and he interviews very well. I like him.

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That's an extremely impressive stat 76. Coach Nielsen will turn Davenport into a monster.

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EDIT: I was referring to the statement we "gave up two FIRST ROUND picks..."

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He's cerebral, for sure. Hopefully not too much inside his own head. Talking to a buddy this weekend, Davenport reminded me a bit of Ricky Williams in the way he interviewed. :shock:

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I am not saying Davenport isn't worthy of being selected 14th overall. I am saying he isn't worthy of being selected 14th +32nd (at the bare minimum winning super bowl) + 147th. I can't understand the jump when you sign Okafor and drafted Hendrickson in the 3rd. THE ONLY PLAUSIBLE reason for making this trade is that Davenport is a future HOF prospect. I see no more than a Renaldo Turnbull possible as less Courtney Brown. If he next Ricky Jackson pass the plate of crow I will eat it with a smile.

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The jump was because he is being favorably compared to Chubb and can be the elite edge rusher that can compliment Cam Jordan.

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If they have proven anything is that they are willing to trade a pick next year in order to get a talent like Kamara.

After the past couple of drafts with Ireland... I have to say we may have the DROY.

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And that could very well happen with Cam Jordan on the opposite side. Bradley Chubb, to whom Davenport has been compared, had three other defensive linemen lined up beside him that ALL went in the draft. Davenport did what he did on an island with little help whatsoever. Wait until he lines up with Jordan, Sheldon Rankins and a Tyeler Davison. He is going to see a lot of one on one situations that he's going to feast upon.

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Good write up here...

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/7T0D..._RICE_5_49.gif

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/3/20/1...couting-report

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By this time next year the talking heads may be talking about how we stole Davenport in the draft. How about Defensive ROY and Super Bowl MVP?

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Has any team had the DROY in back to back years?:confused:

Re: Saints draft Marcus Davenport after trading up in first round
 

Yes. The 2017-2018 New Orleans Saints. Seriously, no.

Edit:

It must be noted that one team did have co-DROY's in one year, however:

1980 - Buddy Curry, Atlanta, LB, and Al Richardson, Atlanta, LB

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Would you trade trade Taven Bryant and Stephan Anthony for Cam Jordan?
I Would in a NY second.

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The more I read about Davenport the more excited I am to see him in the black and gold. I love his demeanor. He comes across as a very intelligent hard working young man who is willing to put in the time to hone his craft. Who Dat!

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WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?!! Woof Woof Woof Woof
WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?!! Woof Woof Woof Woof
WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?!! Woof Woof Woof Woof
Hoping Marcus and Cam bring out the chant! I believe we've got a great defense if everyone is healthy.

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