Appreciate of some y'all's optimism, really I do and I don't engage to make light of it - have too much respect for y'all - my post history will show that...

But this "no second guessing" and "in Loomis we trust" is naive to not question the FO moves; only local media defends the haul with 'wait and see" as a defense...

Let's not forget Payton and Loomis had one great draft, one, in their tenure; and no, don't give them credit for 2006 where all 32 teams passed on Colston and Strief...

And I'd remind Loomis was GM when we traded two first round picks passing on eight All-Pro players for Johnathan Sullivan; also on Stanley Jean Baptiste...

And we still can't get a member of the press on a story explaining how Stephone Anthony went from being nearly DROTY to incapable of playing football...

Again, have always appreciated some of your optimism, loyalty is rare these days and is to be cherished; but this is a dumpster fire of a draft haul...

Only two picks came in where they should have - S Natrell Jamerson and C/G Will Clapp; taking two maybe three players, ikely UDFAs, with draft picks...

Again, love the blind loyalty, but this draft needs to be questioned because we should be putting the final pieces in place for a run this year...

My angle is and has always been that the draft is a crapshoot. Of ALL the players drafted in a given year, how many are still in the league 3 years later?

Did the Saints take some risks this year? You bet. They were educated risks to be sure, and the guys taking the risks are FAR more educated about the risks they're taking than you or I - although you are clearly more up to speed about the draft than me, the difference between you and the Saints FO is still significant.

I don't think it was "Ditka" draft as some have said, nor do I believe it was a dumpster fire. Far from it, and I think people are undervaluing our ability to coach this talent up, which is surprising considering how we all revere the quality of coaching on or team. It's not about blind faith. I don't have that. Like I said, I think it's a crapshoot.

We took some risks. We didn't "play it safe". Safe isn't always the best play.

I give the draft a B- or a C. The Saints needed a TE. What did they leave the draft without? A TE. Davenport may work out, but they still gave a little too much for him. And why draft a RB when you're set at that position?

For all we know we may have. Time will tell.

And how do you know those picks could have been had as UDFA's? It is very possible, and I would venture to say very probable, that other teams had their eyes on thos players, as well.

This board hasn't panned a draft like this since 2014's.

Careful now. We're not allowed to pan this draft b/c we're not scouts, coaches, or GMs. We're just YouTube highlight monitors.

That's the requirement for questioning any & all picks, apparently.