I really don’t see anything that we have done this offseason to improve this team.

jnormand · 04-29-2018, 10:05 PM

Are you serious? I think you need to explain what they should've done a better job of. It'd be easier for you to argue your own points than wait for someone else's logic to change your mind. Can you explain you're position on the off season and what you think should've been done?

The Dude · 04-29-2018, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Are you serious? I think you need to explain what they should've done a better job of. It'd be easier for you to argue your own points than wait for someone else's logic to change your mind. Can you explain you're position on the off season and what you think should've been done?

Should have at least bundled some of those later picks and try to stockpile some for next year. 2 players make this roster and that’s only because they pretty much have to keep Laquan to save face.

WW_Who_Dat · 05-03-2018, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Should have at least bundled some of those later picks and try to stockpile some for next year. 2 players make this roster and that’s only because they pretty much have to keep Laquan to save face.

Confused ... You would have bundled the later round picks and ended up with fewer picks this year ... ?

Not use this years picks for 2 OL"ers for OL depth an absolute critical need weather you like them or not they were the BPA at the position when we picked?

Trade picks from this year draft to Stockpile another mid round pick next year?

jeanpierre · 04-29-2018, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

We got a good first round pick at a position of need but broke the bank on him. Seems like they were just playing with house money in Benson’s absence.
FA wasn’t any better. We pick up a decent “when healthy” veteran and an aging TE. I do like having Watson back but I don’t see him being a game changer.
We pick 2 CBs to throw into an already crowded backfield and a RB that we plain out don’t need.
We’ve ALWAYS found solid depth backs in UDFA. This guy ain’t no Ingram.

Please point out some positives

First, our coaching staff stayed in-tact; we have a coaching staff among the best in all of football...

Second, we brought in a wiser, better Patrick Robinson who was among the best nickel CBs last year to upgrade the nickel and make our secondary among the best...

Third, it may be TE by committee, but we brought back a veteran tight end and two promising UDRFA that should make the position very competitive, stronger...

Fourth, an under-the-radar draft pick is S Natrell Jamerson, an absolute ball hawk, an upgrade at safety to the two-draft pick expensed Vonn Bell...

Jamerson's a terrific gunner on kick coverage and can return punts in a pinch; Natrell will be a difference maker by season's end...

Fifth, he'll need more strength and better technique (coaching), but we found an able replacement for interior swing offensive lineman in Will Clapp...

Sixth, we signed a terrific veteran swing safety in Kurt Coleman who upgrades our safety group with a better disciplined approach in the secondary...

Seventh, we got a 1-A receiver as our slot receiver for only 5mil/year who should solve a lot of last season's headaches on third downs and red zones...

I'm not happy with the draft as a whole, in fact, I'm disappointed and skeptical of the return we'll get on the first round pick...

Nor did I like overpaying for a MLB who's only had one positive graded season in the NFL and is now in essentially his fifth defense...

But I appreciate the opportunity to be fair and point that there are many positives to a team that lost in the playoffs in the final minutes at a tough stadium...

turbo_dog · 04-30-2018, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

We got a good first round pick at a position of need but broke the bank on him. Seems like they were just playing with house money in Benson’s absence.
FA wasn’t any better. We pick up a decent “when healthy” veteran and an aging TE. I do like having Watson back but I don’t see him being a game changer.
We pick 2 CBs to throw into an already crowded backfield and a RB that we plain out don’t need.
We’ve ALWAYS found solid depth backs in UDFA. This guy ain’t no Ingram.

Please point out some positives

I think you're being extreme. I will grant you that the Boston Scott and Kamrin Moore picks weren't my favorites. I was hoping for more LB depth. But I have a feeling our special teams just improved with those two guys.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2018, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

I think you're being extreme. I will grant you that the Boston Scott and Kamrin Moore picks weren't my favorites. I was hoping for more LB depth. But I have a feeling our special teams just improved with those two guys.

I honestly feel we are loaded at LB, especially with the free agency addition of DeMario Davis. The guy is a baller and will be starting Mike on day one.+

turbo_dog · 05-03-2018, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I honestly feel we are loaded at LB, especially with the free agency addition of DeMario Davis. The guy is a baller and will be starting Mike on day one.+

I like the addition of Davis a lot! Especially that he hasn't missed a game in his career. If Klein, Davis, and Robertson are on the field, I'm pretty happy. I just worry about the depth, since Anzelone and Kikaha haven't stayed healthy.

K Major · 05-03-2018, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

I like the addition of Davis a lot! Especially that he hasn't missed a game in his career. If Klein, Davis, and Robertson are on the field, I'm pretty happy.

I agree. Demario is a sleeper FA signing. I know our great friend Hagan was beating the drum to get AJ Klein last year but I'm just not all that impressed with his play. Just felt that Robertson was the most consistent LB we had. It wouldn't surprise me to see Nolan slide AJ over to SAM.

IMO Davis (MLB) will become our Ellerbe in 2018 without the injury concerns. He adds much needed speed, instincts & physical nature you must have at the position.

billyt81 · 04-30-2018, 02:11 PM

Cameron Meredith if healthy is a great athlete. He could really help us. Keith Kirkwood WR UDFA from Temple will help us. Boston Scott can return kicks and add another home run threat to an already potent offense. Ben Watson is a legit all around good tight end. Davenport adds a monster athlete to the DE spot making a solid defense even better. Of course we need Davenport to be the impact player they obviously think he is. But if he is the real deal and we have Cam Jordan and a young stud Davenport........It could work out.

shawnkytonk · 04-30-2018, 02:21 PM

How did we break the bank to get Davenport? I keep seeing this nonsense.

04-29-2018, 10:05 PM	#1
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,808	Re: I really don’t see anything that we have done this offseason to improve this team. Are you serious? I think you need to explain what they should've done a better job of. It'd be easier for you to argue your own points than wait for someone else's logic to change your mind. Can you explain you're position on the off season and what you think should've been done?

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,076	Re: I really don’t see anything that we have done this offseason to improve this team. Originally Posted by jnormand Are you serious? I think you need to explain what they should've done a better job of. It'd be easier for you to argue your own points than wait for someone else's logic to change your mind. Can you explain you're position on the off season and what you think should've been done? Should have at least bundled some of those later picks and try to stockpile some for next year. 2 players make this roster and that’s only because they pretty much have to keep Laquan to save face.
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WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,286 Blog Entries: 1	Re: I really don’t see anything that we have done this offseason to improve this team. Originally Posted by The Dude Should have at least bundled some of those later picks and try to stockpile some for next year. 2 players make this roster and that’s only because they pretty much have to keep Laquan to save face. Confused ... You would have bundled the later round picks and ended up with fewer picks this year ... ? Not use this years picks for 2 OL"ers for OL depth an absolute critical need weather you like them or not they were the BPA at the position when we picked? Trade picks from this year draft to Stockpile another mid round pick next year?

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I really don’t see anything that we have done this offseason to improve this team. Originally Posted by The Dude We got a good first round pick at a position of need but broke the bank on him. Seems like they were just playing with house money in Benson’s absence. FA wasn’t any better. We pick up a decent “when healthy” veteran and an aging TE. I do like having Watson back but I don’t see him being a game changer. We pick 2 CBs to throw into an already crowded backfield and a RB that we plain out don’t need. We’ve ALWAYS found solid depth backs in UDFA. This guy ain’t no Ingram. Please point out some positives First, our coaching staff stayed in-tact; we have a coaching staff among the best in all of football... Second, we brought in a wiser, better Patrick Robinson who was among the best nickel CBs last year to upgrade the nickel and make our secondary among the best... Third, it may be TE by committee, but we brought back a veteran tight end and two promising UDRFA that should make the position very competitive, stronger... Fourth, an under-the-radar draft pick is S Natrell Jamerson, an absolute ball hawk, an upgrade at safety to the two-draft pick expensed Vonn Bell... Jamerson's a terrific gunner on kick coverage and can return punts in a pinch; Natrell will be a difference maker by season's end... Fifth, he'll need more strength and better technique (coaching), but we found an able replacement for interior swing offensive lineman in Will Clapp... Sixth, we signed a terrific veteran swing safety in Kurt Coleman who upgrades our safety group with a better disciplined approach in the secondary... Seventh, we got a 1-A receiver as our slot receiver for only 5mil/year who should solve a lot of last season's headaches on third downs and red zones... I'm not happy with the draft as a whole, in fact, I'm disappointed and skeptical of the return we'll get on the first round pick... Nor did I like overpaying for a MLB who's only had one positive graded season in the NFL and is now in essentially his fifth defense... But I appreciate the opportunity to be fair and point that there are many positives to a team that lost in the playoffs in the final minutes at a tough stadium... foreverfan and mleg1972 like this.
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turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,717	Re: I really don’t see anything that we have done this offseason to improve this team. Originally Posted by The Dude We got a good first round pick at a position of need but broke the bank on him. Seems like they were just playing with house money in Benson’s absence. FA wasn’t any better. We pick up a decent “when healthy” veteran and an aging TE. I do like having Watson back but I don’t see him being a game changer. We pick 2 CBs to throw into an already crowded backfield and a RB that we plain out don’t need. We’ve ALWAYS found solid depth backs in UDFA. This guy ain’t no Ingram. Please point out some positives I think you're being extreme. I will grant you that the Boston Scott and Kamrin Moore picks weren't my favorites. I was hoping for more LB depth. But I have a feeling our special teams just improved with those two guys. mleg1972 likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,962	Re: I really don’t see anything that we have done this offseason to improve this team. Originally Posted by turbo_dog I think you're being extreme. I will grant you that the Boston Scott and Kamrin Moore picks weren't my favorites. I was hoping for more LB depth. But I have a feeling our special teams just improved with those two guys. I honestly feel we are loaded at LB, especially with the free agency addition of DeMario Davis. The guy is a baller and will be starting Mike on day one.+ mleg1972 and Thirty3 like this.

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turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,717	Re: I really don’t see anything that we have done this offseason to improve this team. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I honestly feel we are loaded at LB, especially with the free agency addition of DeMario Davis. The guy is a baller and will be starting Mike on day one.+ I like the addition of Davis a lot! Especially that he hasn't missed a game in his career. If Klein, Davis, and Robertson are on the field, I'm pretty happy. I just worry about the depth, since Anzelone and Kikaha haven't stayed healthy. K Major likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I really don’t see anything that we have done this offseason to improve this team. Originally Posted by turbo_dog I like the addition of Davis a lot! Especially that he hasn't missed a game in his career. If Klein, Davis, and Robertson are on the field, I'm pretty happy. I agree. Demario is a sleeper FA signing. I know our great friend Hagan was beating the drum to get AJ Klein last year but I'm just not all that impressed with his play. Just felt that Robertson was the most consistent LB we had. It wouldn't surprise me to see Nolan slide AJ over to SAM. IMO Davis (MLB) will become our Ellerbe in 2018 without the injury concerns. He adds much needed speed, instincts & physical nature you must have at the position.

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billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: I really don’t see anything that we have done this offseason to improve this team. Cameron Meredith if healthy is a great athlete. He could really help us. Keith Kirkwood WR UDFA from Temple will help us. Boston Scott can return kicks and add another home run threat to an already potent offense. Ben Watson is a legit all around good tight end. Davenport adds a monster athlete to the DE spot making a solid defense even better. Of course we need Davenport to be the impact player they obviously think he is. But if he is the real deal and we have Cam Jordan and a young stud Davenport........It could work out.

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