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No, what I mean is the guy they drafted in rd 6 (Scott) is the same style as AK.

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How is this the NFL's fault. Other players on other teams have gotten PED suspensions. We are no outlier.

Am I surprised by this? Yes, but now I know why Ingram looked so dominant against fluff competition and division games now and so incapable against the stout run defenses or teams that sell out to stop the run.


Maybe we can go and get a top back next offseason in free agency. Someone like Bell.

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bucs browns falcons giants

weak part of the schedule

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Sometimes getting a crucial first down to run down the clock is better than getting a stop.

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Mark the shark looking for a new contract...

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Someone on a recent thread posted they didn't know why people were down on Ingram or think he isn't that great.

- I don't know he was worth the draft pick at the time
- then there is this... lol. SMH.

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He's got to switch to Vicodin first

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Agree with Danno, Jonathan Williams too..... let's face it, we're stacked with talent everywhere.

Rumor is our backup waterboy trainer has dual degrees Hydrology Engineering and Hospitality Sciences....and dat's 'da backup!

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While he certainly did something incredibly stupid here, the degree of stupidity is hard to ascertain cause they don't say what he tested positive for. It could have been something accidental, it could have been obvious PED use. We may actually never know.

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Well dang it Mark, you're gonna make us bring AP back in for a workout.

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:roflmao:

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Is now time to trade him and/or cut our losses with him? Likely not as he does not count much against the cap.

Mark Ingram Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac

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5 things to know about the Saints' running back depth

For 2nd straight season, a member of the Saints' offense begins the season on suspension
For the second consecutive season, a key member of the Saints' offense who is entering a contract year will begin the season on suspension. Ingram, who switched agents this offseason, is coming off career highs of 1,124 yards and 12 touchdowns along with 58 receptions for 416 yards.
In 2017, then-Saints receiver Willie Snead began the season on suspension, missing the first three games because of an offseason DUI. Snead too was entering a contract year and ended up joining the Baltimore Ravens as a restricted free agent after the Saints declined to match their offer.

The Saints drafted a running back in the sixth round
The team also drafted running back Boston Scott out of Louisiana Tech in the sixth round of this year’s draft.
Scott was drafted with a special teams role in mind but he excelled as runner between the tackles later in his career for the Bulldogs.
The former walk-on played one of the best games of his career in the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in the 2015 New Orleans Bowl where he rushed for more than 100 yard on just four carries.
During the draft process Scott said that teams contacting often compared him to former Saints running back Darren Sproles. Sproles enjoyed three productive seasons in New Orleans from 2011-13.
The Saints could also explore the free agent market to add another running back as several veterans including former Saints running back Adrian Peterson are still on the market.


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AP be like "Yeah, well at least I don't use PED's" :D

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To me that shows a culture of that kind of behavior. Seems like Payton and company need to stop looking the other way.

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He’ll appeal and it get reduced to 2 or 3 like everybody else.

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Cut Bait! Move on, like we did with that...safety dude. Can't remember his name.... Vascro or something like that.

Obviously did not leave a lasting impression.
:dunce:

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Welp..Can't fart no rays of sunshine about this. Straight up sucks.

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Captain Ray Obvious taps into his superpowers on this one, but it's still a hopeful article for Saints' fans...

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Is Victor with the team still? I’m surprised we went with Edmunds over him.
The Falcons will be tough to beat.
Vicodin, Bountygate, and 3 players caught taking PEDs. At some point you have to start looking at the staff and Coaches.
Seems There is always something shady goin down.

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This should end any debate over a high dollar, long term contract for Ingram.

Just say no.

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Dayum! After I was thinking the plan was to get our 1st rd pick back or at least a 2nd rd pick after the season on a trade, this happen! GOOD LUCK ON CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.

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Wtf Mark? Hey I'm not gonna hide. I was just complaining about all the hate on him. I still think he's a great back. I'm upset about the PEDS ****, but I can forgive that. But the contract talk post suspension is ridiculous.

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Not sure what he took but if it's supplements, stuff is not regulated. Eat healthy meals and stay away from it. Any real nutritionist will say the same.

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This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone anymore than bounty programs existing. You don’t stay competitive amongst elite competition in a brutal sport on whole milk, chicken, multi-vitamins, and a protein shake.

I am surprised at three suspensions in as many years but only because that’s a low number compared to reality.

Are we naive enough to believe that after 5-6 seasons a player just got good? It’s not a coincidence that the three suspensions were for players that had hot previous seasons, the league knows where to look.

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I wouldn't have been giving him a big paid contract after this year anyway. RB is pretty easy to get players in. Why pay big money for a man just about to enter his 30s. Get soneone young,hungry and cheap with luttle wear on them

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The Vicodin coach is long gone ... Vitt. Bountygate was total BS. Three players takings PED's? Name a team that hasn't had that many hit in the past dozen years. A frickin' throat lozenge can trigger a failed PED test. So can a diluted urine sample. In the Star Cap suspension it was an completely unlisted ingredient in an over the counter supplement.

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Exactly. The Ingram camp knew all about this long before now. Who knows, Ingram may have fired his old agent due to this case. The media could have easily interpreted the change of agent to desire for a contract renegotiation. Or it could be coming from the ex-agent.

Either way, that's why I refuse to take a negative look at anything that comes out via the media until ALL facts are known. By that time LAZY fans have already made a decision based upon earlier speculations they they continue to take as fact.

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He just lost 25% of his $ on his current contract... about $1 million.

Hope the Saints don't make a mistake here.

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This is what I am talking about. First, there were no bounty programs. Twenty-six Saints players and coaches testified to that fact in District Court in Jonathon Vilma's Suit against Goodell and the league? Did you forget about that? There was a simple performance pool only, that was common in every defensive locker room in the league. There were, at the time, no rules against such a thing.

And where did you come up with three Saints being suspended for PED use in the past three years? To begin with, Snead was suspended for a DUI. It had nothing to do with PED's. Try including at least something resembling facts in your idiotic claims.

:rolleyes:

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You angry about something? Your comments on my post about the release of Fleener had the same condescending aggressive tone. I was correct then, and I’m correct now with the exception of being 2/3 correct on the PED suspension number.

It’s almost as though you are trying to provoke something.

Have a great day.

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You implied that Vaccaro, Snead and Ingram's performances were due to PED use. That is crap. Vaccaro got hit for Adderall during the season. That isn't something you take to affect your regular season play. He said he took it to stay alert while attending his brother's game on a Saints bye week. He was wrong, but it wasn't anything you can ever get away with to "enhance performance" on the field.

You did admit you were wrong about Snead. The jury is still out on what triggered the Ingram violation.

And, you are still misrepresenting the whole deal with the performance pool being trumped up by Goodell to appear to be something vile. Yes, that does raise my ire a bit.

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The league doesn’t disclose what triggered the positive test. Players say it was Adderall when often times it’s steroids (which is rumored to be the case with Vaccaro.)

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Where exactly is that rumored? I have searched and cannot find any mention of that.

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Just a guess.... you love that we moved up for him and that he took 4 years to learn how to play? ;):p

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Clearly not on B&G. Funny how many members suddenly come out of the woodwork to quickly lay blame whenever any negative news surfaces concerning the Saints. But, to be honest, I see it happen the same way on other team's forums, as well. Some people just enjoy thinking the worst. I never could understand that concept. It seems so counterproductive.

Oh, and to your point, once "due process" was allowed to complete in the performance pool case all players were cleared of any wrong doing by Paul Tagliabue at which time Vilma dropped his suit against the league.