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It’s always ****ing something when it comes to the Saints. Always.
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Maybe we/they just need to bend over and take the 4-game suspension and get it over with. The 4 games will hurt, but I'd rather have that than another Starcaps.
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Well......dang!:argue:
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These guys Always appeal the suspension, they never win the appeal, and they are ALWAYS innocent. C'mon man, not fooling anyone. Just take your lumps, bc to me, the denial makes it worse.
Now I'm sure Guido will have an answer as to why I am wrong, and this is a different situation. So let's hear it, but I ain't buying it. |
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I wasn’t aware of this... our RB coach Joel Thomas held the same position at Arkansas while Jonathan Williams was there. That explains why we signed him. Joel Thomas knows he can contribute.
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I hope he shows something at camp & good luck :bng:. |
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My bet is that Ingram thought the TUE had been properly submitted by his agent (who should be the person responsible) and was then hit with the test that showed the medication he thought was pre-approved. That would explain why he fired his agent and pursued the appeal. Not because he has taken the medication, but because he thought it had been approved. No doubt he would lose that appeal, but it would explain everything to this point. Once the written decision is released they could appeal the length of the suspension itself, NOT the earlier ruling. As for the success on appealing the suspension, it is rather common that they get reduced based upon circumstances. I think you are getting confused with the appeal of the test results which rarely get overturned. |
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There is nothing to suggest that Ingram was purposely using PEDs to try to cheat. It could have easily been an accident. Airheaded yes, but tbh there are so many things on the list that it's incredibly easy to do. I've seen Ingram go out there and lay it all on the field week in, week out. This isn't the time to withdraw our support for the guy. All players have their issues. One thing I know for sure is that Mark bleeds black and gold. Being able to stick with these guys that give so much to the team even in their most trying moments is the hallmark of a strong and dedicated fan base. It is that sort of solidarity that wins championships.
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I wish Mrk was using his roids and coke on this play
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Simply ask yourselves this:
WWBBD ... What Would Bill Belichek Do? I think we all know the answer! :popcorn: |
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Kamara and Ingram both ran up the middle and caught passes. The only differ was Kamara was more reliable on deep pass plays and Ingram was more reliable in protection.
Now that Ingram is out 4 games Kamara will be more counted on protection and Scott will take on more of Kamara plays for relief. If everything works out and Scott turnout to be a doppelgänger of Sproles, Kamara shows he can be reliable protecting Brees, this might turnout to be a blessing in disguise |
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I played 18 years and got tested 1-2 times every year (WADA rules), that made me have to be very aware of everything I ate. The only time that was even remotely an issue thou was regarding medicines or supplements. And if i could do it as an amateur I would expect him as a pro to be able to. |
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Let him play out his contract, as is.
Watch the film, check the time, if he's still hitting the hole, offer him a modest contract, be consistent and use the same discipline used recently with Jimmy Graham... At the end of the day, committing money to a RB long-term at his age is foolish - it's not like he'll get the All-Time Rushing Record in 3 years... |
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as a fan base sure but this is also a business... and he just made himself trade bait.
We are without a first rounder next year... hmmm. |
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The Saints need Ingram. Kamara needs Ingram. Ingram needs Kamara. BOTH were the reason the Saints were so successful last season. Losing Ingram is a big loss.
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Just listened to an interview with Zack Strief on NFL Radio with James Lofton and Bruce Murray. When asked about Ingram, Strief said that there isn't a better individual on the team than Mark Ingram and he is sure that Ingram would never do anything consciously that wasn't allowed. He was then asked about supplements and the 24 hour per day phone service that players can use to verify than a product they are considering in not included on the banned list. Strief said that the system is broken and does not work. He said one manufacturer could have 50 products they make. Thirty of them contain a component banned by the NFL. The other twenty are not supposed to have any of those components. He said the problem is that at times there can be cross pollution in processes that could introduce a tiny trace of a banned substance into a product that is supposed to be clean. The reason why this can get by is that the supplement business is not controlled by the FDA.
So, basically, a player can call the official number and ask if a product was okay to take and he would be told "yes". Then, if he came up with a trace of a banned substance from a tainted product he would be in violation of the PED policy. You can fight it "vigorously" as a player, but you are going to lose. Very interesting. Perhaps Strief knows what actually happened. Or perhaps he was just answering the host's question. :confused: |
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Unfortunate for MI. |
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Still, unfortunate for Ingram. His legal team has exhausted the appeals process through the league, but can still call for an outside arbiter to review the suspension. That's how Ray Rice got his suspension reduced and that is also how the Saints players wrongly accused of having a "bounty program" got all of their suspensions stricken. |
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if you keep dipping sudafed in coke and roids does it make you pop?
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