Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games(Update: Appeal denied)

05-16-2018, 03:31 PM

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spkb25 · 05-16-2018, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://youtu.be/KpJo2F_1WSY

yeah but these former NFL players are wrong because people on this board say he didn't do anything and only took the sudafed. Sudafed, the player killer

SmashMouth · 05-16-2018, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

yeah but these former NFL players are wrong because people on this board say he didn't do anything and only took the sudafed. Sudafed, the player killer

st thomas · 07-16-2018, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I wonder what the odds are that we’ve seen Mark play his last down in a Saints uniform. I know odds are pretty low, but holding out and getting suspended... We know what happens when you get into Payton’s doghouse.

Seems Payton is taking this in stride , it could be the gilateen when he gets back though!

AsylumGuido · 07-16-2018, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Seems Payton is taking this in stride , it could be the gilateen when he gets back though!

I have a feeling that Payton knows that Ingram was ****ed over in the deal. Every indication is that trace amount of substance was found in his sample of a non-performance menacing, yet still prohibited nature. Four different Saints players talked about supplemental products that are not on the banned list at all, but had been tainted that led to the suspension. Zack Strief said that's why he NEVER used any supplement at all because of the chance that this could occur. He said that the manufacturers produce their products for the general public (banned substances galore!) and the professional community.

Beastmode · 07-16-2018, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I have a feeling that Payton knows that Ingram was ****ed over in the deal. Every indication is that trace amount of substance was found in his sample of a non-performance menacing, yet still prohibited nature. Four different Saints players talked about supplemental products that are not on the banned list at all, but had been tainted that led to the suspension. Zack Strief said that's why he NEVER used any supplement at all because of the chance that this could occur. He said that the manufacturers produce their products for the general public (banned substances galore!) and the professional community.

Which he should know as a true professional. Do not take that stuff. Workout and eat healthy meals. Supplements won't add any value nutritionally if one is eating right. Supplements are pseudo science. And these guys eat very very well. I have eaten at their training camps and there is no king on this planet that eats better than them.

I believe he will in fact be traded. For one, he will not be here next year regardless. Boston Scott and West will be the new 3 headed monster. We will actually be better off. Defenses will have no clue and Kamara can get more of a breather.

jeanpierre · 07-17-2018, 02:36 AM

Chris Carter made a great point - this suspension is at the start of the season and not hanging over the team being a distraction - it is done...

Sean Payton will have all of training camp to redistribute the work load for Ingram's production and to game plan and mask Ingram's absence...

And there's one more point to also throw in - Ingram will be coming in fresh, fired up, and energized for a team in the second quarter of the season...

This is also a terrific opportunity to evaluate the roster, identifying Ingram's replacement when his contract demands at age 30 are not sustainable...

I'm more concerned about having quality reserves to sustain a Run for the Lombardi Trophy than I am missing Ingram for four games...

The Dude · 07-17-2018, 10:45 PM

I won’t mind having fresh legs. If Kamara is still healthy hopefully he will be just as potent. Plus teams won’t have any film from this year with him in it. Mark Ingram is mark Ingram but I’m sure Payton will have evolved the game plan.

saintsfan1976 · 07-18-2018, 05:32 AM

Must start the season hot. Anything can happen in a season but as it stands our mid year stretch looks absolutely brutal.

Beastmode · 07-18-2018, 08:08 AM

One point I heard is that if the PED that was in his system, how much of of factor was that last year? He's not a young man. His touches also declined there right at the end.

All I know is we have done extremely well drafting as of late so what is best in life looking down the road? If BS or West work out really have to consider getting something for MI right now. We won't get much but, start building picks up to get back in the 1st.

05-16-2018, 04:57 PM	#192
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games(Update: Appeal denied) Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://youtu.be/KpJo2F_1WSY yeah but these former NFL players are wrong because people on this board say he didn't do anything and only took the sudafed. Sudafed, the player killer SmashMouth likes this.

05-16-2018, 05:59 PM	#193
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07-16-2018, 02:51 PM	#194
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games(Update: Appeal denied) Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I wonder what the odds are that we’ve seen Mark play his last down in a Saints uniform. I know odds are pretty low, but holding out and getting suspended... We know what happens when you get into Payton’s doghouse. Seems Payton is taking this in stride , it could be the gilateen when he gets back though! Beastmode likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,044	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games(Update: Appeal denied) Originally Posted by st thomas Seems Payton is taking this in stride , it could be the gilateen when he gets back though! I have a feeling that Payton knows that Ingram was ****ed over in the deal. Every indication is that trace amount of substance was found in his sample of a non-performance menacing, yet still prohibited nature. Four different Saints players talked about supplemental products that are not on the banned list at all, but had been tainted that led to the suspension. Zack Strief said that's why he NEVER used any supplement at all because of the chance that this could occur. He said that the manufacturers produce their products for the general public (banned substances galore!) and the professional community.
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07-16-2018, 05:42 PM	#196
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games(Update: Appeal denied) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I have a feeling that Payton knows that Ingram was ****ed over in the deal. Every indication is that trace amount of substance was found in his sample of a non-performance menacing, yet still prohibited nature. Four different Saints players talked about supplemental products that are not on the banned list at all, but had been tainted that led to the suspension. Zack Strief said that's why he NEVER used any supplement at all because of the chance that this could occur. He said that the manufacturers produce their products for the general public (banned substances galore!) and the professional community. Which he should know as a true professional. Do not take that stuff. Workout and eat healthy meals. Supplements won't add any value nutritionally if one is eating right. Supplements are pseudo science. And these guys eat very very well. I have eaten at their training camps and there is no king on this planet that eats better than them. I believe he will in fact be traded. For one, he will not be here next year regardless. Boston Scott and West will be the new 3 headed monster. We will actually be better off. Defenses will have no clue and Kamara can get more of a breather. SmashMouth likes this.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games(Update: Appeal denied) I won’t mind having fresh legs. If Kamara is still healthy hopefully he will be just as potent. Plus teams won’t have any film from this year with him in it. Mark Ingram is mark Ingram but I’m sure Payton will have evolved the game plan.
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games(Update: Appeal denied) One point I heard is that if the PED that was in his system, how much of of factor was that last year? He's not a young man. His touches also declined there right at the end. All I know is we have done extremely well drafting as of late so what is best in life looking down the road? If BS or West work out really have to consider getting something for MI right now. We won't get much but, start building picks up to get back in the 1st.
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