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Exactly. The Ingram camp knew all about this long before now. Who knows, Ingram may have fired his old agent due to this case. The media could have easily interpreted the change of agent to desire for a contract renegotiation. Or it could be coming from the ex-agent.

Either way, that's why I refuse to take a negative look at anything that comes out via the media until ALL facts are known. By that time LAZY fans have already made a decision based upon earlier speculations they they continue to take as fact.

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He just lost 25% of his $ on his current contract... about $1 million.

Hope the Saints don't make a mistake here.

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This is what I am talking about. First, there were no bounty programs. Twenty-six Saints players and coaches testified to that fact in District Court in Jonathon Vilma's Suit against Goodell and the league? Did you forget about that? There was a simple performance pool only, that was common in every defensive locker room in the league. There were, at the time, no rules against such a thing.

And where did you come up with three Saints being suspended for PED use in the past three years? To begin with, Snead was suspended for a DUI. It had nothing to do with PED's. Try including at least something resembling facts in your idiotic claims.

:rolleyes:

Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games
 

You angry about something? Your comments on my post about the release of Fleener had the same condescending aggressive tone. I was correct then, and I’m correct now with the exception of being 2/3 correct on the PED suspension number.

It’s almost as though you are trying to provoke something.

Have a great day.

Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games
 

You implied that Vaccaro, Snead and Ingram's performances were due to PED use. That is crap. Vaccaro got hit for Adderall during the season. That isn't something you take to affect your regular season play. He said he took it to stay alert while attending his brother's game on a Saints bye week. He was wrong, but it wasn't anything you can ever get away with to "enhance performance" on the field.

You did admit you were wrong about Snead. The jury is still out on what triggered the Ingram violation.

And, you are still misrepresenting the whole deal with the performance pool being trumped up by Goodell to appear to be something vile. Yes, that does raise my ire a bit.

Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games
 

The league doesn’t disclose what triggered the positive test. Players say it was Adderall when often times it’s steroids (which is rumored to be the case with Vaccaro.)

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Re: Mark Ingram Suspended Four Games
 

Where exactly is that rumored? I have searched and cannot find any mention of that.

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Just a guess.... you love that we moved up for him and that he took 4 years to learn how to play? ;):p

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Clearly not on B&G. Funny how many members suddenly come out of the woodwork to quickly lay blame whenever any negative news surfaces concerning the Saints. But, to be honest, I see it happen the same way on other team's forums, as well. Some people just enjoy thinking the worst. I never could understand that concept. It seems so counterproductive.

Oh, and to your point, once "due process" was allowed to complete in the performance pool case all players were cleared of any wrong doing by Paul Tagliabue at which time Vilma dropped his suit against the league.