Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip)

Danno · 05-01-2005, 07:55 PM

it is really hard to compare people from different eras. but hilliard only went over the 1000 yard mark once. deuce has done it 3 times already. i think right there deuce has to be the better back. bayou king if out of 4 seasons that deuce has been here, having gone over the 1000 yard mark 3 times and not 4 because he sat one year, and hilliard only did it one in his career, how do you say how hilliard was the better back? and to you also gumbo i ask

My vote goes to Dalton until Deuce shows me some more. Put Dalton on this Saints team and he\'s Marshall Faulk.
A couple more years success from Deuce and he\'ll easily pass Dalton. If he can stay healthy that is. But he\'s not there yet.

papz · 05-01-2005, 07:58 PM

I was going to post it too spkb25, but then I didn\'t want anyone to feel so :casstet: when they saw it. So funny... if he was better than or anywhere as good as Deuce, they wouldn\'t have drafted so many different guys to try to replace him... Dunbar, Brown, Heyward, Bates... goodness how long could this list be.

creole_t · 05-01-2005, 08:05 PM

It sure was good to see some of those old names from the day...

Hilliard was one of my all time favorite Saints, and will always be. But Duece, when in shape (Danno), is far and away a better back. He is like a fine blend of Hilliard, Mayes, and Heyward all mixed together--enough power to bowl over a LB but enough elusiveness and speed to break a 60 yard run.

Danno · 05-01-2005, 08:09 PM

But Duece, when in shape (Danno), is far and away a better back.

And Jonathan Sullivan, when in shape is probably a really good DT too.

spkb25 · 05-01-2005, 08:10 PM

thats funny papz. i know what you mean. and i think deuce in 4 years has already met hilliards career rushing numbers. danno you have no argument at all. but hey it was a good try. i mean what else does he have to do to be better than hilliard. especially when he already has the same numbers. but hey he isnt there yet, huh?

spkb25 · 05-01-2005, 08:12 PM

#26 Deuce McAllister New Orleans Saints | Roster | NFL Index ESPN

ATT
269 YDS
1074 TD
9

Height: 6-1
Weight: 232 lbs.
Pos: Running Back

Age: 26
Born: December 27, 1978, Lena, MS
Drafted: 2001, 1st Round, 23rd Pick by New Orleans Saints.
Experience: 5 years
College: Mississippi

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RUSHING STATS
YEAR TEAM G GS ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
2001 NO 16 4 16 91 5.7 54 1 4 0 0
2002 NO 15 15 325 1388 4.3 62 13 65 4 3
2003 NO 16 16 351 1641 4.7 76 8 69 6 4
2004 NO 14 14 269 1074 4.0 71 9 53 5 4
CAREER 61 -- 961 4194 4.4 76 31 191 15 11

RECEIVING STATS
YEAR TEAM G GS REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
2001 NO 16 4 15 166 11.1 22 1 8 0 0
2002 NO 15 15 47 352 7.5 30 3 15 0 0
2003 NO 16 16 69 516 7.5 39 0 22 0 0
2004 NO 14 14 34 228 6.7 20 0 5 0 0
CAREER 61 -- 165 1262

spkb25 · 05-01-2005, 08:17 PM

well in his young 4 year career he has 34 more career yards then hilliard. and he isnt better? i love hilliard too but man it isnt even a contest. had i looked at the numbers before i would have said this right away. but with me having been so young back then i didnt know or remember. when i became a saints fan i was 12. that was 87. he only played a couple of more years and only a very few times without his knee problems after that

spkb25 · 05-01-2005, 08:19 PM

another thing deuce has been over 4 yards a carry every year in his career. hilliard went over 4 yards a carry twice in his career.

spkb25 · 05-01-2005, 08:22 PM

George Rogers
Running Back
Born: 1958
2-time Pro Bowler: 1981, 1982

+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1981 nor | 15 | 378 1674 4.4 13 | 16 126 7.9 0 |
| 1982 nor | 6 | 122 535 4.4 3 | 4 21 5.2 0 |
| 1983 nor | 13 | 256 1144 4.5 5 | 12 69 5.8 0 |
| 1984 nor | 16 | 239 914 3.8 2 | 12 76 6.3 0 |
| 1985 was | 15 | 231 1093 4.7 7 | 4 29 7.2 0 |
| 1986 was | 15 | 303 1203 4.0 18 | 3 24 8.0 0 |
| 1987 was | 11 | 163 613 3.8 6 | 4 23 5.8 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 91 | 1692 7176 4.2 54 | 55 368 6.7 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+----------------

spkb25 · 05-01-2005, 08:23 PM

unfortunately for me i dont remember the guy. i was just to young. but he would have been more comparable. and he was a great rb. or had the potential to be. shame he got hurt. but that lets you know what we have in deuce!

05-01-2005, 07:55 PM	#11
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) it is really hard to compare people from different eras. but hilliard only went over the 1000 yard mark once. deuce has done it 3 times already. i think right there deuce has to be the better back. bayou king if out of 4 seasons that deuce has been here, having gone over the 1000 yard mark 3 times and not 4 because he sat one year, and hilliard only did it one in his career, how do you say how hilliard was the better back? and to you also gumbo i ask My vote goes to Dalton until Deuce shows me some more. Put Dalton on this Saints team and he\'s Marshall Faulk. A couple more years success from Deuce and he\'ll easily pass Dalton. If he can stay healthy that is. But he\'s not there yet.

05-01-2005, 07:58 PM	#12
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) I was going to post it too spkb25, but then I didn\'t want anyone to feel so :casstet: when they saw it. So funny... if he was better than or anywhere as good as Deuce, they wouldn\'t have drafted so many different guys to try to replace him... Dunbar, Brown, Heyward, Bates... goodness how long could this list be.

05-01-2005, 08:05 PM	#13
creole_t Registered Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 53	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) It sure was good to see some of those old names from the day... Hilliard was one of my all time favorite Saints, and will always be. But Duece, when in shape (Danno), is far and away a better back. He is like a fine blend of Hilliard, Mayes, and Heyward all mixed together--enough power to bowl over a LB but enough elusiveness and speed to break a 60 yard run.
creole_t Registered Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 53

05-01-2005, 08:09 PM	#14
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) But Duece, when in shape (Danno), is far and away a better back. And Jonathan Sullivan, when in shape is probably a really good DT too.

05-01-2005, 08:10 PM	#15
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) thats funny papz. i know what you mean. and i think deuce in 4 years has already met hilliards career rushing numbers. danno you have no argument at all. but hey it was a good try. i mean what else does he have to do to be better than hilliard. especially when he already has the same numbers. but hey he isnt there yet, huh?

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05-01-2005, 08:12 PM	#16
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) #26 Deuce McAllister New Orleans Saints \| Roster \| NFL Index ESPN ATT 269 YDS 1074 TD 9 Height: 6-1 Weight: 232 lbs. Pos: Running Back Age: 26 Born: December 27, 1978, Lena, MS Drafted: 2001, 1st Round, 23rd Pick by New Orleans Saints. Experience: 5 years College: Mississippi Scouts Inc. Scouting Report New Orleans Saints Profile \| Fantasy \| Statistics \| Splits \| Game Log \| Player Tracker \| Search: ESPN \| Web RUSHING STATS YEAR TEAM G GS ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST 2001 NO 16 4 16 91 5.7 54 1 4 0 0 2002 NO 15 15 325 1388 4.3 62 13 65 4 3 2003 NO 16 16 351 1641 4.7 76 8 69 6 4 2004 NO 14 14 269 1074 4.0 71 9 53 5 4 CAREER 61 -- 961 4194 4.4 76 31 191 15 11 RECEIVING STATS YEAR TEAM G GS REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST 2001 NO 16 4 15 166 11.1 22 1 8 0 0 2002 NO 15 15 47 352 7.5 30 3 15 0 0 2003 NO 16 16 69 516 7.5 39 0 22 0 0 2004 NO 14 14 34 228 6.7 20 0 5 0 0 CAREER 61 -- 165 1262
	Your team stinks

05-01-2005, 08:17 PM	#17
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) well in his young 4 year career he has 34 more career yards then hilliard. and he isnt better? i love hilliard too but man it isnt even a contest. had i looked at the numbers before i would have said this right away. but with me having been so young back then i didnt know or remember. when i became a saints fan i was 12. that was 87. he only played a couple of more years and only a very few times without his knee problems after that

05-01-2005, 08:19 PM	#18
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) another thing deuce has been over 4 yards a carry every year in his career. hilliard went over 4 yards a carry twice in his career.

05-01-2005, 08:22 PM	#19
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) George Rogers Running Back Born: 1958 2-time Pro Bowler: 1981, 1982 +--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| Rushing \| Receiving \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| Year TM \| G \| Att Yards Y/A TD \| Rec Yards Y/R TD \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| 1981 nor \| 15 \| 378 1674 4.4 13 \| 16 126 7.9 0 \| \| 1982 nor \| 6 \| 122 535 4.4 3 \| 4 21 5.2 0 \| \| 1983 nor \| 13 \| 256 1144 4.5 5 \| 12 69 5.8 0 \| \| 1984 nor \| 16 \| 239 914 3.8 2 \| 12 76 6.3 0 \| \| 1985 was \| 15 \| 231 1093 4.7 7 \| 4 29 7.2 0 \| \| 1986 was \| 15 \| 303 1203 4.0 18 \| 3 24 8.0 0 \| \| 1987 was \| 11 \| 163 613 3.8 6 \| 4 23 5.8 0 \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| TOTAL \| 91 \| 1692 7176 4.2 54 \| 55 368 6.7 0 \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+----------------
	Your team stinks

05-01-2005, 08:23 PM	#20
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) unfortunately for me i dont remember the guy. i was just to young. but he would have been more comparable. and he was a great rb. or had the potential to be. shame he got hurt. but that lets you know what we have in deuce!