Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip)

GumboBC · 05-01-2005, 01:47 PM

Here's a clip from SaintRob. It's the 80's offense with a lot of Dalton's highlights.

Personally, I think Dalton was the better back. You decide.

Click on the link to view.

http://www.cdol.com/saints/80soffense.wmv

saintswhodi · 05-01-2005, 04:43 PM

Wow, from those limited clips, I guess we can say Bobby Hebert is better than Brooks too. He seemed to avoid rushes, throw touch passes, and I didn\'t see a fumble or INT. Also, we can say Eric Martin is better than Joe Horn, cause from those limited clips, I saw that he averaged about 25 YAC, which is much more than Joe. Hell, from those clips, Reuben Mayes and Ironhead was better than Deuce too. The team was also able to run screen passes, so from the limited clips those offenses must have been better than our current one.

Dalton is my all time favorite Saint, and Ronnie Lott even said when he was playing, Dalton Hilliard was the hardest tackle he had to make, but Dalton is not better than Deuce IMO. Did you see the holes he had from those limited clips? Not one had a defender in the backfield ever, and every screen worked. Imagine highlights would put a certain player in a very preferable light. Guess that\'s why they call them HIGHlights.

GumboBC · 05-01-2005, 04:52 PM

saintswhodi --

Come on dude ... I\'m not suggesting anyone draw a conclusion on Deuce vs. Dalton strictly from that video clip.

But, I think most fans remember seeing Dalton Hillard in his prime. The video clip was just a little reminder of how good Dalton was.

To me, Dalton could make defenders miss like no other Saints\' RB I\'ve ever seen. And, IMO, Dalton was a much better receiver than Deuce.

FireVenturi · 05-01-2005, 05:12 PM

Dalton was a very good, under-rated back, and also a family friend as he did business with my father, but i still think Deuce is better.

dberce1 · 05-01-2005, 05:48 PM

Dalton is shifty and hard to tackle.
Deuce is bigger and faster.
In today\'s game, I don\'t see Dalton being able to carry 25 times a game.

spkb25 · 05-01-2005, 06:08 PM

dalton wasa great back until the knees got him. deuce is a great back too. its hard to say. i loved hilliard. but i love deuce too. but both were very good backs.

bayouking318 · 05-01-2005, 06:35 PM

It surprise how people forget. Dalton is by far better than Deuce. Deuce is more like potential to be the best saint\'s rb & Dalton is the best saint \'s rb. Out of the 4 season he played only 2 great season. Dalton was closest player I seen to run like Barry, however Deuce run more like Bo Jackson ....but if he don\'t come in better condition than last year he want be in comparison to the saint \'s old time great...

papz · 05-01-2005, 07:32 PM

ROFL OMG LOL... Dalton versus Deuce. Are you being serious here? It\'s not April fools again is it? :rollinglaugh:

He might have been a fan favorite... but between 1986-1993 he averaged 3.6 yards per carry and had only ONE thousand yard season. There is no comparison here.

spkb25 · 05-01-2005, 07:50 PM

it is really hard to compare people from different eras. but hilliard only went over the 1000 yard mark once. deuce has done it 3 times already. i think right there deuce has to be the better back. bayou king if out of 4 seasons that deuce has been here, having gone over the 1000 yard mark 3 times and not 4 because he sat one year, and hilliard only did it one in his career, how do you say how hilliard was the better back? and to you also gumbo i ask

spkb25 · 05-01-2005, 07:52 PM

Dalton Hilliard
Running Back
Born: 1964
1-time Pro Bowler: 1989

+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1986 nor | 16 | 121 425 3.5 5 | 17 107 6.3 0 |
| 1987 nor | 12 | 123 508 4.1 7 | 23 264 11.5 1 |
| 1988 nor | 16 | 204 823 4.0 5 | 34 335 9.9 1 |
| 1989 nor | 16 | 344 1262 3.7 13 | 52 514 9.9 5 |
| 1990 nor | 6 | 90 284 3.2 0 | 14 125 8.9 1 |
| 1991 nor | 10 | 79 252 3.2 4 | 21 127 6.0 1 |
| 1992 nor | 16 | 115 445 3.9 3 | 48 465 9.7 4 |
| 1993 nor | 16 | 50 165 3.3 2 | 40 296 7.4 1 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 108 | 1126 4164 3.7 39 | 249 2233 9.0 14 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

Seasons among the league\'s top 10
Rushes: 1989-2
Rushing yards: 1989-5
Rushing TDs: 1987-6t, 1989-4
Yards from scrimmage: 1989-2
Rush/Receive TDs: 1987-8t, 1989-1

Dalton Hilliard is not in the all-time top 50 in any major category.

Postseason data
Please read this fine print before using this data or sending questions or corrections.

Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1987 min L,10-44 | 8 39 0 | 2 15 0
1990 chi L,6-16 | 4 13 0 | 0 0 0
1991 atl L,20-27 | 4 5 1 | 5 33 0
1992 phi L,20-36 | 3 7 0 | 1 10 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 19 64 1 | 8 58

05-01-2005, 01:47 PM	#1
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) Here's a clip from SaintRob. It's the 80's offense with a lot of Dalton's highlights. Personally, I think Dalton was the better back. You decide. Click on the link to view. http://www.cdol.com/saints/80soffense.wmv
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05-01-2005, 04:43 PM	#2
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) Wow, from those limited clips, I guess we can say Bobby Hebert is better than Brooks too. He seemed to avoid rushes, throw touch passes, and I didn\'t see a fumble or INT. Also, we can say Eric Martin is better than Joe Horn, cause from those limited clips, I saw that he averaged about 25 YAC, which is much more than Joe. Hell, from those clips, Reuben Mayes and Ironhead was better than Deuce too. The team was also able to run screen passes, so from the limited clips those offenses must have been better than our current one. Dalton is my all time favorite Saint, and Ronnie Lott even said when he was playing, Dalton Hilliard was the hardest tackle he had to make, but Dalton is not better than Deuce IMO. Did you see the holes he had from those limited clips? Not one had a defender in the backfield ever, and every screen worked. Imagine highlights would put a certain player in a very preferable light. Guess that\'s why they call them HIGHlights.

05-01-2005, 04:52 PM	#3
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) saintswhodi -- Come on dude ... I\'m not suggesting anyone draw a conclusion on Deuce vs. Dalton strictly from that video clip. But, I think most fans remember seeing Dalton Hillard in his prime. The video clip was just a little reminder of how good Dalton was. To me, Dalton could make defenders miss like no other Saints\' RB I\'ve ever seen. And, IMO, Dalton was a much better receiver than Deuce.
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05-01-2005, 05:12 PM	#4
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05-01-2005, 06:08 PM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) dalton wasa great back until the knees got him. deuce is a great back too. its hard to say. i loved hilliard. but i love deuce too. but both were very good backs.

05-01-2005, 06:35 PM	#7
bayouking318 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 209	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) It surprise how people forget. Dalton is by far better than Deuce. Deuce is more like potential to be the best saint\'s rb & Dalton is the best saint \'s rb. Out of the 4 season he played only 2 great season. Dalton was closest player I seen to run like Barry, however Deuce run more like Bo Jackson ....but if he don\'t come in better condition than last year he want be in comparison to the saint \'s old time great...

05-01-2005, 07:32 PM	#8
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) ROFL OMG LOL... Dalton versus Deuce. Are you being serious here? It\'s not April fools again is it? :rollinglaugh: He might have been a fan favorite... but between 1986-1993 he averaged 3.6 yards per carry and had only ONE thousand yard season. There is no comparison here.

05-01-2005, 07:50 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) it is really hard to compare people from different eras. but hilliard only went over the 1000 yard mark once. deuce has done it 3 times already. i think right there deuce has to be the better back. bayou king if out of 4 seasons that deuce has been here, having gone over the 1000 yard mark 3 times and not 4 because he sat one year, and hilliard only did it one in his career, how do you say how hilliard was the better back? and to you also gumbo i ask

05-01-2005, 07:52 PM	#10
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Deuce better than Dalton Hillard? (Video Clip) Dalton Hilliard Running Back Born: 1964 1-time Pro Bowler: 1989 +--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| Rushing \| Receiving \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| Year TM \| G \| Att Yards Y/A TD \| Rec Yards Y/R TD \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| 1986 nor \| 16 \| 121 425 3.5 5 \| 17 107 6.3 0 \| \| 1987 nor \| 12 \| 123 508 4.1 7 \| 23 264 11.5 1 \| \| 1988 nor \| 16 \| 204 823 4.0 5 \| 34 335 9.9 1 \| \| 1989 nor \| 16 \| 344 1262 3.7 13 \| 52 514 9.9 5 \| \| 1990 nor \| 6 \| 90 284 3.2 0 \| 14 125 8.9 1 \| \| 1991 nor \| 10 \| 79 252 3.2 4 \| 21 127 6.0 1 \| \| 1992 nor \| 16 \| 115 445 3.9 3 \| 48 465 9.7 4 \| \| 1993 nor \| 16 \| 50 165 3.3 2 \| 40 296 7.4 1 \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ \| TOTAL \| 108 \| 1126 4164 3.7 39 \| 249 2233 9.0 14 \| +----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+ Seasons among the league\'s top 10 Rushes: 1989-2 Rushing yards: 1989-5 Rushing TDs: 1987-6t, 1989-4 Yards from scrimmage: 1989-2 Rush/Receive TDs: 1987-8t, 1989-1 Dalton Hilliard is not in the all-time top 50 in any major category. Postseason data Please read this fine print before using this data or sending questions or corrections. Year Opp Result \| RSH YD TD \| REC YD TD ---------------------+-----------------+----------------- 1987 min L,10-44 \| 8 39 0 \| 2 15 0 1990 chi L,6-16 \| 4 13 0 \| 0 0 0 1991 atl L,20-27 \| 4 5 1 \| 5 33 0 1992 phi L,20-36 \| 3 7 0 \| 1 10 0 ---------------------+-----------------+----------------- TOTAL \| 19 64 1 \| 8 58
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