Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals

AsylumGuido · 08-21-2018, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I know I'll probably get flamed for this (I may deserve it) but I think we've bought too much into that angle. In 11, 12+ years, coach has yet to develop even a backup QB despite taking more than a half dozen bites at the apple. Just about every season we've been left with hoping a veteran can fill the role. I've come to believe that it's simply about talent & we just lack it at the position behind the Great Drew Brees .

I hope within the next couple of years, we pick high with real proven talent at the collegiate level & develop at the QB position.

Brees can't do it forever.

Not sure how we'd be able to pick high coming off back to back Lombardi's.

Just saying.

The Dude · 08-21-2018, 02:32 PM

Bottom line is that if Brees goes down we are screwed.

RailBoss · 08-21-2018, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Bottom line is that if Brees goes down we are screwed.

I think we all realize it, almost like we are running on borrowed time.
Every game I hold my breath when Drew takes a hit, and of course
comes the short prayer...
Please Lord we Who Dats don't ask for much if there's any way you can
keep him upright for just one more season.

spkb25 · 08-21-2018, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Bottom line is that if Brees goes down we are screwed.

Uh no, we have Savage

spkb25 · 08-21-2018, 08:51 PM

finding a QB is hard, I'd like to see what JT can do over time, but as far as finding another Brees...ain't gonna happen

Supertek · 08-23-2018, 08:10 AM

I really do not want to see Savage make this roster. He is washed up as far as I a, concerned. I don't believe in developing a player for 2 or 3 years. Either you go "IT" or you don't. Look at the overall performance of he three players and let the other 2 go. Hill can play special teams which is a plus which may help him stick around and be an emergency option so they may keep 2. I say JT is probably their best option at this point. If he doesn't come around we could be in big trouble. It's really hard to find a franchise quarterback. It looks like there is going to be a big drop off for this team when Brees goes. It's going to take a lot of luck to find his replacement.

K Major · 08-23-2018, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Supertek

I really do not want to see Savage make this roster.

Savage looks like a statue in the pocket, staring down receivers.

jeanpierre · 08-23-2018, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Savage looks like a statue in the pocket, staring down receivers.

Yep, and it's a bad habit to correct; in fact, Savage didn't even seem to have eyes down field, going right to the check-down receiver who was immediately tackled...

vpheughan · 08-23-2018, 10:40 AM

I know I'll probably get flamed for this (I may deserve it) but I think we've bought too much into that angle. In 11, 12+ years, coach has yet to develop even a backup QB despite taking more than a half dozen bites at the apple.

LIKE THE ONE'S I MENTIONED 4 PAGES AGO?
YOUNG QB'S DRAFTED SINCE 2009 TYLER PALKO, SEAN CANFIELD, GARRET GRAYSON THE FREE AGENTS ACTUALLY TO MAKE OTHER ROSTERS CHASE DANIEL AND RYAN GRIFFIN

SaintsBro · 08-24-2018, 03:12 PM

I still think coach puts a lot of value in the experienced guy with the clipboard, who has veteran experience when it comes to seeing stuff and talking to Drew and the O line on the sidelines, and especially for having ice water in his veins when holding those crucial kicks and extra points in clutch situations. Mark Brunnell being the classic example, but there have been others. Luke McCown. Coach Payton likes guys like that. Remember, Mark Brunnell was the steady-handed veteran holder for head case kid Hartley, hit the fleur de lis, pigs have flown and all that. Guys like McCown and Brunnell may not have burned up the stat sheet but they were always pretty solid under the bright lights and high pressure on special teams.

08-21-2018, 03:37 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals Originally Posted by K Major I know I'll probably get flamed for this (I may deserve it) but I think we've bought too much into that angle. In 11, 12+ years, coach has yet to develop even a backup QB despite taking more than a half dozen bites at the apple. Just about every season we've been left with hoping a veteran can fill the role. I've come to believe that it's simply about talent & we just lack it at the position behind the Great Drew Brees . I hope within the next couple of years, we pick high with real proven talent at the collegiate level & develop at the QB position. Brees can't do it forever. Not sure how we'd be able to pick high coming off back to back Lombardi's. Just saying. RailBoss and K Major like this.

08-21-2018, 02:32 PM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals Bottom line is that if Brees goes down we are screwed. RailBoss, SaintsBro and K Major like this.
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RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals Originally Posted by The Dude Bottom line is that if Brees goes down we are screwed. I think we all realize it, almost like we are running on borrowed time. Every game I hold my breath when Drew takes a hit, and of course comes the short prayer... Please Lord we Who Dats don't ask for much if there's any way you can keep him upright for just one more season. Attached Thumbnails

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals Originally Posted by The Dude Bottom line is that if Brees goes down we are screwed. Uh no, we have Savage The Dude likes this.

08-21-2018, 08:51 PM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals finding a QB is hard, I'd like to see what JT can do over time, but as far as finding another Brees...ain't gonna happen

08-23-2018, 08:10 AM	#6
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals I really do not want to see Savage make this roster. He is washed up as far as I a, concerned. I don't believe in developing a player for 2 or 3 years. Either you go "IT" or you don't. Look at the overall performance of he three players and let the other 2 go. Hill can play special teams which is a plus which may help him stick around and be an emergency option so they may keep 2. I say JT is probably their best option at this point. If he doesn't come around we could be in big trouble. It's really hard to find a franchise quarterback. It looks like there is going to be a big drop off for this team when Brees goes. It's going to take a lot of luck to find his replacement. Barry from MS likes this.

08-23-2018, 08:17 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals Originally Posted by Supertek I really do not want to see Savage make this roster. Savage looks like a statue in the pocket, staring down receivers. Garry42 likes this.

08-23-2018, 11:11 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals Originally Posted by K Major Savage looks like a statue in the pocket, staring down receivers. Yep, and it's a bad habit to correct; in fact, Savage didn't even seem to have eyes down field, going right to the check-down receiver who was immediately tackled...

08-23-2018, 10:40 AM	#9
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,543	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals I know I'll probably get flamed for this (I may deserve it) but I think we've bought too much into that angle. In 11, 12+ years, coach has yet to develop even a backup QB despite taking more than a half dozen bites at the apple. LIKE THE ONE'S I MENTIONED 4 PAGES AGO? YOUNG QB'S DRAFTED SINCE 2009 TYLER PALKO, SEAN CANFIELD, GARRET GRAYSON THE FREE AGENTS ACTUALLY TO MAKE OTHER ROSTERS CHASE DANIEL AND RYAN GRIFFIN
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08-24-2018, 03:12 PM	#10
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Taysom Hill falters in first start as Saints drop preseason matchup to Cardinals I still think coach puts a lot of value in the experienced guy with the clipboard, who has veteran experience when it comes to seeing stuff and talking to Drew and the O line on the sidelines, and especially for having ice water in his veins when holding those crucial kicks and extra points in clutch situations. Mark Brunnell being the classic example, but there have been others. Luke McCown. Coach Payton likes guys like that. Remember, Mark Brunnell was the steady-handed veteran holder for head case kid Hartley, hit the fleur de lis, pigs have flown and all that. Guys like McCown and Brunnell may not have burned up the stat sheet but they were always pretty solid under the bright lights and high pressure on special teams.

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