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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by burningmetal Actually, it's not football. It's people who happen to play football, who don't know how to quit feuding after the game is played. We're just giving opinions, here. The difference is we haven't been at it ...

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Old 10-15-2018, 06:43 AM   #1
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Re: Micharl Thomas fined $10,026

Originally Posted by burningmetal View Post
Actually, it's not football. It's people who happen to play football, who don't know how to quit feuding after the game is played.

We're just giving opinions, here. The difference is we haven't been at it for weeks.
'They' don't know how to quit huh? lol... Give it time
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Old 10-15-2018, 06:47 AM   #2
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'They' don't know how to quit huh? lol... Give it time
Why do you say "'they'"? I'm sure there is some kind of sarcasm embedded in your comment, but your point is not exactly clear to me.

How much time do they need? It's already been quite some time, has it not?
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Old 10-15-2018, 12:01 PM   #3
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I am not a fan of trash-talking. I do get in the head of rugby players after a good play telling them to get used to that and that I will be bringing it all day long. I like to make them nervous. But I try to do it with a little bit of class. No one has ever talked trash to me after a match because I was giving them flak during a game. If anything it Garners me a little respect.
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Old 10-15-2018, 02:35 PM   #4
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I definitely grew up before the internet and social media existed so that probably does contribute to my attitude that taking any aspect of your professional interactions to social media in a negative fashion is childish and unprofessional. I personally don't like Thomas jarring with a competitor on social media and I expect better from him and the organization in handling these things. I have always had more respect for people who let their play do the talking, but I do understand that many players utilize some trash talking and mind games to complement their play style and I am fine with that on the field. Keep it there.

I personally give no weight to the argument about age or culture. Don't care. Act like a the professional you are being highly compensated to be. This is a "culture" that is perfectly fine for your personal life but has no place when it comes to business. It's why the league and teams have had to come up with a player conduct policy to penalize this kind of stupidity. You want your millions of dollars then curb your immaturity and represent the league and your organization with some professionalism.
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Old 10-15-2018, 04:07 PM   #5
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I grew up in the 70s... We talked sh1t. Ali was talking sh1t on national television before I was born. This is not a 'modern' or 'internet' thing.

NFL players have been talking sh1t to each other across the line as long as there has been a line. Know what.. catchers do it to batters in baseball also.

I dont have any issue with what athletes do off the field on their own time.

As far as the implications of the word 'professional'.. Professional just indicates what someones primary occupation is. Prostitutes are professionals and there doesn't seem to be any expectation of conduct.

Many of us are professionals on the clock, and we still talk sh1t in these very public forums on our time off. Lets not be hypocrites.
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Old 10-15-2018, 04:30 PM   #6
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I grew up in the 70s... We talked sh1t. Ali was talking sh1t on national television before I was born. This is not a 'modern' or 'internet' thing.

NFL players have been talking sh1t to each other across the line as long as there has been a line. Know what.. catchers do it to batters in baseball also.

I dont have any issue with what athletes do off the field on their own time.

As far as the implications of the word 'professional'.. Professional just indicates what someones primary occupation is. Prostitutes are professionals and there doesn't seem to be any expectation of conduct.

Many of us are professionals on the clock, and we still talk sh1t in these very public forums on our time off. Lets not be hypocrites.
You're talking about trash talk ON the field. I don't care so much about that, though I still think it's petty. At least it's better than whining over their twitters like teenage girls.

As for Ali, I have no respect for the way he conducted himself. Great boxer. But a stuck up person. It's not simply a matter of if he's a professional or not, it's just common decency, or lack thereof.

And the prostitute example? Yeah they are paid to be gross. That's their profession. Of course they don't have an expectation of conduct. There are different professions with different standards and expectations. When you represent an organization, and you are paid millions of dollars, there is absolutely an expectation to conduct yourself with some kind of class and dignity. Someone else made mention of the conduct policy earlier. That policy is there for a reason. Are you going to argue that? Really?

Does anyone on this site feud for weeks with another poster? Do any of us have millions of "followers" reading what we say? Do we argue like children? Whenever a person displays bad behavior around here, that person gets called out. I can think of a few off the top of my head who haven't posted in a while because they've either been banned, or they got tired of us telling them off.

So, no, I don't think we're being hypocrites.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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You're talking about trash talk ON the field. I don't care so much about that, though I still think it's petty. At least it's better than whining over their twitters like teenage girls.

As for Ali, I have no respect for the way he conducted himself. Great boxer. But a stuck up person. It's not simply a matter of if he's a professional or not, it's just common decency, or lack thereof.

And the prostitute example? Yeah they are paid to be gross. That's their profession. Of course they don't have an expectation of conduct. There are different professions with different standards and expectations. When you represent an organization, and you are paid millions of dollars, there is absolutely an expectation to conduct yourself with some kind of class and dignity. Someone else made mention of the conduct policy earlier. That policy is there for a reason. Are you going to argue that? Really?

Does anyone on this site feud for weeks with another poster? Do any of us have millions of "followers" reading what we say? Do we argue like children? Whenever a person displays bad behavior around here, that person gets called out. I can think of a few off the top of my head who haven't posted in a while because they've either been banned, or they got tired of us telling them off.

So, no, I don't think we're being hypocrites.
I know some times what I say goes right over your head... but Ali talked trash on national television was in my reply.

Look! Old white people talking sh1t and the NFL promoting it.

OMG.. Old white professionals talking trash on national television.


Now your next reply will be another attempt at why its different. It isn't. Its all sh1t talking, and none of it is new.
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I know some times what I say goes right over your head... but Ali talked trash on national television was in my reply.

Look! Old white people talking sh1t and the NFL promoting it.
https://youtu.be/G7rUfHgnh4Q

OMG.. Old white professionals talking trash on national television. https://youtu.be/YdVqabopESU


Now your next reply will be another attempt at why its different. It isn't. Its all sh1t talking, and none of it is new.
Wow... I'm almost at a loss for words at how incredibly bad a case you just presented.

Let me start from the top: You claim that things you say often go over my head. That is incorrect. In fact, you often say things that make little sense and when I point out the inconsistencies, or just plain nonsense, of some of the things you say, you always claim that I just don't understand you. Your unwillingness, or inability, to clarify with anything that makes sense leads me to believe that you don't really know what you're trying to say.

Now that we've dealt with that issue, on to the next: You followed up your claim that what you say goes over my head, by telling me that you said Ali talked trash on national television in your previous reply... Yeah... Didn't I acknowledge that and tell you that I didn't respect the way he handled himself? How is it that you believe that went over my head? If you're going to insult my intelligence, at least bother to read what I said before you put your foot in your mouth.

And then what did you do? You showed a video of FAKE trash talking on a commercial and used that to make your point? Then you used video from a celebrity roast, of which trash talking is the whole point and is done in jest for entertainment? Really?... Really, man?

Let me put that aside for just a second and get back to the principle of the whole argument. I don't care how long trash talking has been around, and playful banter is a completely different type of trash talk. We're talking about people acting like teenagers on social media. It's petty.

The likes of Ali, I have no more respect for. That kind of nonsense is bush league, period.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Wow... I'm almost at a loss for words at how incredibly bad a case you just presented.

Let me start from the top: You claim that things you say often go over my head. That is incorrect. In fact, you often say things that make little sense and when I point out the inconsistencies, or just plain nonsense, of some of the things you say, you always claim that I just don't understand you. Your unwillingness, or inability, to clarify with anything that makes sense leads me to believe that you don't really know what you're trying to say.

Now that we've dealt with that issue, on to the next: You followed up your claim that what you say goes over my head, by telling me that you said Ali talked trash on national television in your previous reply... Yeah... Didn't I acknowledge that and tell you that I didn't respect the way he handled himself? How is it that you believe that went over my head? If you're going to insult my intelligence, at least bother to read what I said before you put your foot in your mouth.

And then what did you do? You showed a video of FAKE trash talking on a commercial and used that to make your point? Then you used video from a celebrity roast, of which trash talking is the whole point and is done in jest for entertainment? Really?... Really, man?

Let me put that aside for just a second and get back to the principle of the whole argument. I don't care how long trash talking has been around, and playful banter is a completely different type of trash talk. We're talking about people acting like teenagers on social media. It's petty.

The likes of Ali, I have no more respect for. That kind of nonsense is bush league, period.
Simply put, you have stated your measurement of acceptable behavior online. You also have shared your lack of respect for other relatively accepted forms of banter.
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I have no idea where anyone on these boards grew up or what environment they grew up in...

I know I went to Herod Elementary in Abbeville Louisiana in the 70s/80s.. There was a 10' chain link fence and the other side were the projects. There are people so poor they only have attitude and can only afford to talk sh1t... That is what they know. Some are lucky enough to find a way out but that doesn't mean they forgot where they came from.

Beyond that I have lived in at least five countries... I have had white Frenchmen CDG airport say things they didnt think I could understand (in French), and I have had Nigerians take me into their church and homes.

People everywhere are different. Not better. Not worse. Just different, and that's a good thing.
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