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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by TheOak I grew up in the 70s... We talked sh1t. Ali was talking sh1t on national television before I was born. This is not a 'modern' or 'internet' thing. NFL players have been talking sh1t to each ...

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Old 10-15-2018, 04:30 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
I grew up in the 70s... We talked sh1t. Ali was talking sh1t on national television before I was born. This is not a 'modern' or 'internet' thing.

NFL players have been talking sh1t to each other across the line as long as there has been a line. Know what.. catchers do it to batters in baseball also.

I dont have any issue with what athletes do off the field on their own time.

As far as the implications of the word 'professional'.. Professional just indicates what someones primary occupation is. Prostitutes are professionals and there doesn't seem to be any expectation of conduct.

Many of us are professionals on the clock, and we still talk sh1t in these very public forums on our time off. Lets not be hypocrites.
You're talking about trash talk ON the field. I don't care so much about that, though I still think it's petty. At least it's better than whining over their twitters like teenage girls.

As for Ali, I have no respect for the way he conducted himself. Great boxer. But a stuck up person. It's not simply a matter of if he's a professional or not, it's just common decency, or lack thereof.

And the prostitute example? Yeah they are paid to be gross. That's their profession. Of course they don't have an expectation of conduct. There are different professions with different standards and expectations. When you represent an organization, and you are paid millions of dollars, there is absolutely an expectation to conduct yourself with some kind of class and dignity. Someone else made mention of the conduct policy earlier. That policy is there for a reason. Are you going to argue that? Really?

Does anyone on this site feud for weeks with another poster? Do any of us have millions of "followers" reading what we say? Do we argue like children? Whenever a person displays bad behavior around here, that person gets called out. I can think of a few off the top of my head who haven't posted in a while because they've either been banned, or they got tired of us telling them off.

So, no, I don't think we're being hypocrites.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Old 10-15-2018, 04:46 PM   #2
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You're talking about trash talk ON the field. I don't care so much about that, though I still think it's petty. At least it's better than whining over their twitters like teenage girls.

As for Ali, I have no respect for the way he conducted himself. Great boxer. But a stuck up person. It's not simply a matter of if he's a professional or not, it's just common decency, or lack thereof.

And the prostitute example? Yeah they are paid to be gross. That's their profession. Of course they don't have an expectation of conduct. There are different professions with different standards and expectations. When you represent an organization, and you are paid millions of dollars, there is absolutely an expectation to conduct yourself with some kind of class and dignity. Someone else made mention of the conduct policy earlier. That policy is there for a reason. Are you going to argue that? Really?

Does anyone on this site feud for weeks with another poster? Do any of us have millions of "followers" reading what we say? Do we argue like children? Whenever a person displays bad behavior around here, that person gets called out. I can think of a few off the top of my head who haven't posted in a while because they've either been banned, or they got tired of us telling them off.

So, no, I don't think we're being hypocrites.
I know some times what I say goes right over your head... but Ali talked trash on national television was in my reply.

Look! Old white people talking sh1t and the NFL promoting it.

OMG.. Old white professionals talking trash on national television.


Now your next reply will be another attempt at why its different. It isn't. Its all sh1t talking, and none of it is new.
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Old 10-15-2018, 06:36 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
I know some times what I say goes right over your head... but Ali talked trash on national television was in my reply.

Look! Old white people talking sh1t and the NFL promoting it.
https://youtu.be/G7rUfHgnh4Q

OMG.. Old white professionals talking trash on national television. https://youtu.be/YdVqabopESU


Now your next reply will be another attempt at why its different. It isn't. Its all sh1t talking, and none of it is new.
Wow... I'm almost at a loss for words at how incredibly bad a case you just presented.

Let me start from the top: You claim that things you say often go over my head. That is incorrect. In fact, you often say things that make little sense and when I point out the inconsistencies, or just plain nonsense, of some of the things you say, you always claim that I just don't understand you. Your unwillingness, or inability, to clarify with anything that makes sense leads me to believe that you don't really know what you're trying to say.

Now that we've dealt with that issue, on to the next: You followed up your claim that what you say goes over my head, by telling me that you said Ali talked trash on national television in your previous reply... Yeah... Didn't I acknowledge that and tell you that I didn't respect the way he handled himself? How is it that you believe that went over my head? If you're going to insult my intelligence, at least bother to read what I said before you put your foot in your mouth.

And then what did you do? You showed a video of FAKE trash talking on a commercial and used that to make your point? Then you used video from a celebrity roast, of which trash talking is the whole point and is done in jest for entertainment? Really?... Really, man?

Let me put that aside for just a second and get back to the principle of the whole argument. I don't care how long trash talking has been around, and playful banter is a completely different type of trash talk. We're talking about people acting like teenagers on social media. It's petty.

The likes of Ali, I have no more respect for. That kind of nonsense is bush league, period.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Wow... I'm almost at a loss for words at how incredibly bad a case you just presented.

Let me start from the top: You claim that things you say often go over my head. That is incorrect. In fact, you often say things that make little sense and when I point out the inconsistencies, or just plain nonsense, of some of the things you say, you always claim that I just don't understand you. Your unwillingness, or inability, to clarify with anything that makes sense leads me to believe that you don't really know what you're trying to say.

Now that we've dealt with that issue, on to the next: You followed up your claim that what you say goes over my head, by telling me that you said Ali talked trash on national television in your previous reply... Yeah... Didn't I acknowledge that and tell you that I didn't respect the way he handled himself? How is it that you believe that went over my head? If you're going to insult my intelligence, at least bother to read what I said before you put your foot in your mouth.

And then what did you do? You showed a video of FAKE trash talking on a commercial and used that to make your point? Then you used video from a celebrity roast, of which trash talking is the whole point and is done in jest for entertainment? Really?... Really, man?

Let me put that aside for just a second and get back to the principle of the whole argument. I don't care how long trash talking has been around, and playful banter is a completely different type of trash talk. We're talking about people acting like teenagers on social media. It's petty.

The likes of Ali, I have no more respect for. That kind of nonsense is bush league, period.
Simply put, you have stated your measurement of acceptable behavior online. You also have shared your lack of respect for other relatively accepted forms of banter.
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