QB Controversy

spkb25 · 12-30-2018, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Brees won on the road on MNF

Just sayin'

but the defense won that game, right?

WhoDat!656 · 12-30-2018, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

but the defense won that game, right?

Offense had to get the lead for the defense to protect.

burningmetal · 12-31-2018, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Offense had to get the lead for the defense to protect.

I guess it's stupid for me to post in the Saints forum, since certain people will say "you don't have the right", but, whatever. I just saw this comment and I can't help but reply.

Regardless of any controversy or no controversy, it just doesn't make any sense to say that the offense had to give the team a lead to protect. Who protected the lead, if they won a game while scoring 12 points? The offense? Not quite.

The extent to which people will go to protect the "sacred" ground Brees walks on has always amazed me. And I'm not doggin' on the guy, either. But there has to be a limit somewhere.

WhoDat!656 · 12-31-2018, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I guess it's stupid for me to post in the Saints forum, since certain people will say "you don't have the right", but, whatever. I just saw this comment and I can't help but reply.

Regardless of any controversy or no controversy, it just doesn't make any sense to say that the offense had to give the team a lead to protect. Who protected the lead, if they won a game while scoring 12 points? The offense? Not quite.

The extent to which people will go to protect the "sacred" ground Brees walks on has always amazed me. And I'm not doggin' on the guy, either. But there has to be a limit somewhere.

How soon we forget the years when the offense had to score like a pinball machine because the defense couldn't protect a lead.

burningmetal · 12-31-2018, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

How soon we forget the years when the offense had to score like a pinball machine because the defense couldn't protect a lead.

I haven't forgotten, my friend. Winning a game while needing to score 40 points is not the same as winning a game, scoring 12.

When you put up 40, you credit the offense. When you only score 12, you credit the defense if you win. It's not any more complicated than that.

burningmetal · 12-31-2018, 10:00 AM

Through the years, however, when Brees has had bad performances nobody has been allowed to say that he was bad. There's always been some weird, abstract analysis given to try to prove that he was somehow managing the game. Like as if he planned it that way.

Never made any sense to me.

WhoDat!656 · 12-31-2018, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Through the years, however, when Brees has had bad performances nobody has been allowed to say that he was bad. There's always been some weird, abstract analysis given to try to prove that he was somehow managing the game. Like as if he planned it that way.

Never made any sense to me.

You could probably count on both hands the number of games the Saints have lost because of Brees.

WhoDat!656 · 12-31-2018, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I haven't forgotten, my friend. Winning a game while needing to score 40 points is not the same as winning a game, scoring 12.

When you put up 40, you credit the offense. When you only score 12, you credit the defense if you win. It's not any more complicated than that.

If a team scores 40 points and loses, offense isn't the problem.

burningmetal · 12-31-2018, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

If a team scores 40 points and loses, offense isn't the problem.

.......?

Did you read what I said? If the offense scores 40, you credit them. If they score 12 and win, you credit the defense. That's what I said. In what way did I insinuate that scoring 40 and losing is the offense's fault?

It seems like you don't want to see a simple point for what it is.

12-30-2018, 03:22 PM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: QB Controversy Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Brees won on the road on MNF Just sayin' but the defense won that game, right?

12-30-2018, 03:26 PM	#2
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Re: QB Controversy Originally Posted by spkb25 but the defense won that game, right? Offense had to get the lead for the defense to protect.

12-31-2018, 09:20 AM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: QB Controversy Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Offense had to get the lead for the defense to protect. I guess it's stupid for me to post in the Saints forum, since certain people will say "you don't have the right", but, whatever. I just saw this comment and I can't help but reply. Regardless of any controversy or no controversy, it just doesn't make any sense to say that the offense had to give the team a lead to protect. Who protected the lead, if they won a game while scoring 12 points? The offense? Not quite. The extent to which people will go to protect the "sacred" ground Brees walks on has always amazed me. And I'm not doggin' on the guy, either. But there has to be a limit somewhere.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

12-31-2018, 09:52 AM	#4
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Re: QB Controversy Originally Posted by burningmetal I guess it's stupid for me to post in the Saints forum, since certain people will say "you don't have the right", but, whatever. I just saw this comment and I can't help but reply. Regardless of any controversy or no controversy, it just doesn't make any sense to say that the offense had to give the team a lead to protect. Who protected the lead, if they won a game while scoring 12 points? The offense? Not quite. The extent to which people will go to protect the "sacred" ground Brees walks on has always amazed me. And I'm not doggin' on the guy, either. But there has to be a limit somewhere. How soon we forget the years when the offense had to score like a pinball machine because the defense couldn't protect a lead.

12-31-2018, 09:55 AM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: QB Controversy Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 How soon we forget the years when the offense had to score like a pinball machine because the defense couldn't protect a lead. I haven't forgotten, my friend. Winning a game while needing to score 40 points is not the same as winning a game, scoring 12. When you put up 40, you credit the offense. When you only score 12, you credit the defense if you win. It's not any more complicated than that.

12-31-2018, 10:00 AM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: QB Controversy Through the years, however, when Brees has had bad performances nobody has been allowed to say that he was bad. There's always been some weird, abstract analysis given to try to prove that he was somehow managing the game. Like as if he planned it that way. Never made any sense to me.

12-31-2018, 11:45 AM	#7
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Re: QB Controversy Originally Posted by burningmetal Through the years, however, when Brees has had bad performances nobody has been allowed to say that he was bad. There's always been some weird, abstract analysis given to try to prove that he was somehow managing the game. Like as if he planned it that way. Never made any sense to me. You could probably count on both hands the number of games the Saints have lost because of Brees.

12-31-2018, 11:44 AM	#8
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Re: QB Controversy Originally Posted by burningmetal I haven't forgotten, my friend. Winning a game while needing to score 40 points is not the same as winning a game, scoring 12. When you put up 40, you credit the offense. When you only score 12, you credit the defense if you win. It's not any more complicated than that. If a team scores 40 points and loses, offense isn't the problem.

12-31-2018, 12:04 PM	#9
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: QB Controversy Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 If a team scores 40 points and loses, offense isn't the problem. .......? Did you read what I said? If the offense scores 40, you credit them. If they score 12 and win, you credit the defense. That's what I said. In what way did I insinuate that scoring 40 and losing is the offense's fault? It seems like you don't want to see a simple point for what it is.