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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major Can't Guard Mike is getting over 60% of the targets thus far. That is an incredible, mind boggling number to me. What other team in the league has that type of disparity ?? Other guys ...
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11-14-2019, 08:21 PM | #791 |
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Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by K Major
Are you proposing we throw the ball more than we do now or do we take passes away from Thomas and give them to the young guys? Cause I can't say that I agree with either idea.
CGM is the best receiver in the NFL right now. He has an 85% completion percentage so he's almost a sure thing every throw. And he has the 2nd highest YAC among wide receivers, 359 yards. We've played some pretty good defenses and nobody's shut him down yet. Just my opinion, but you feed him as much as you can. And I don't think passing more is a good idea. So far this season we're 334 pass/223 rush. I think most of us would agree, they have more success when they're more balanced. I'd like to see Murray and Kamara in the line up together more often. Just my opinion. |
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11-14-2019, 08:41 PM | #792 |
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Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
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Not speaking for KMajor, but I do believe our QBs completion rate and our 3rd Down conversion rate, as well as our Red Zone Efficiency are not what they could be because of a lack of Total Receiving Production... You're absolutely right about @CantGuardMike's efficiency (have had him in nearly every fantasy team in every league the past two years, so I follow him closely), even he's not open on every Saints Offensive Snap... And I dare say he'd probably have more Big Plays if he wasn't being double, tripled-teamed as he is; and Payton has pulled the best compensated, and best WR in the NFL on several red zone trips... Ginn can't run a route to save his life, and he's dropping easy ones now... Kirkwood went down like a stealth fighter, and I'm still not sure of his injury... Tre'Quan has flashed, rarely, and is looking more like a bust every week... Jared Cook should be on a milk carton, and I don't see him turning it around... Josh Hill has made some fine plays, and yet he still can't get a larger role from Payton... And I totally agree about running the ball more... But Payton seems to have been slow to trusting Murray with more opportunities - this really p*sses me off because we let groomed, developed, known value in Ingram go for less when we had terrific balance?? |
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11-14-2019, 09:14 PM | #793 |
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Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by Utah_Saint
As long as MT13 is healthy, we are fine... If he missed ANY TIME AT ALL... we pretty much lose all of our production at the Wide Receiver position. That is unacceptable, and is way beyond time we addressed it. We'd become a better team with a #2.
Smith and Kirkwood are not reliable based on history of injuries. Playoff time comes, def coordinators will take away Mike and that's a fact. See NFCCG with a trip to the Super Bowl on the line of last year. |
11-15-2019, 12:02 PM | #794 |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – Week 11: New Orleans Saints @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers
OFFENSE QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019), 27 - Dwayne Washington FB (1) 42 - Zach Line *LP (Knee) WR-X (1) 13 - Michael Thomas WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan (FA 2019), 80 - Austin Carr LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead *DNP (Illness), 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat *OUT (Forearm Fx), 64 - Will Clapp C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019) RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019) RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook (FA 2019), 89 - Josh Hill, 85 - Dan Arnold (FA 2019) WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019) NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 99 - Shy Tuttle (UDFA 2019) DT3 (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019) LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019) MLB (1) 54 - Kiko Alonso (Trade MIA) SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 58 - Stephone Anthony (FA 2019) RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore *DNP (Hamstring), 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019) NCB (3) 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105), 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson *LP (Hamstrung) FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177) SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 48 - J.T. Gray LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA - 2019) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019) P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019) RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019) *DNP (Hamstring) Practice Squad LG 68 - Derrick Kelly (UDFA 2019) RG 65 - John Leglue (UDFA DEN 2019) TE 86 - Jason Vander Laan (FA NE 2019) WR 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019) WR 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (UDFA 2019) DE 70 - Mitchell Loewen (FA 2019) NT 95 - Taylor Stallworth (FA 2019) FS 32 - T. J. Green (FA 2019) FS 36 - Trae Elston (FA 2019 NO/TB/CLE/BUF/PHI/BUF/MIA/PHI) RS 44 - Taquan Mizzel (UDFA BAL/CHI 2017) Active Roster Count - Total: 51; Offense: 24; Defense: 25; Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 10 Reserve/Injured 45 - Garrett Griffin 51 - Colton Jumper (FA 2019) 54 - Josh Martin (FA 2019) 63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019) 47 - Alex Anzalone 18 - Keith Kirkwood 55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244) Reserve/Non-Football Injury 54 - Chase Hansen (UDFA 2019) KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2019) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2019) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2019) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2019) Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP |
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11-17-2019, 08:35 PM | #795 |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – Week 11: New Orleans Saints @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers
OFFENSE QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019), 27 - Dwayne Washington FB (1) 42 - Zach Line *LP (Knee) WR-X (1) 13 - Michael Thomas WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan (FA 2019), 80 - Austin Carr \INACTIVE LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019) \INACTIVE LG (2) 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019), 75 - Andrus Peat *OUT (Forearm Fx) \INACTIVE C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 64 - Will Clapp RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019) RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook (FA 2019), 89 - Josh Hill, 85 - Dan Arnold (FA 2019) \INACTIVE WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019) \INACTIVE NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 99 - Shy Tuttle (UDFA 2019) DT3 (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019) LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis *LP (Hamstring), 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019) MLB (1) 54 - Kiko Alonso (Trade MIA) SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 58 - Stephone Anthony (FA 2019) RCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 23 - Marshon Lattimore *DNP (Hamstring) \INACTIVE NCB (3) 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105), 21 - Patrick Robinson *FP (Hamstrung), 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019) FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177) SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 48 - J.T. Gray LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA - 2019) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019) P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019) RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019) *DNP (Hamstring) \INACTIVE Practice Squad LG 68 - Derrick Kelly (UDFA 2019) RG 65 - John Leglue (UDFA DEN 2019) TE 86 - Jason Vander Laan (FA NE 2019) WR 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019) WR 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (UDFA 2019) DE 70 - Mitchell Loewen (FA 2019) NT 95 - Taylor Stallworth (FA 2019) FS 32 - T. J. Green (FA 2019) FS 36 - Trae Elston (FA 2019 NO/TB/CLE/BUF/PHI/BUF/MIA/PHI) RS 44 - Taquan Mizzel (UDFA BAL/CHI 2017) Active Roster Count - Total: 51; Offense: 24; Defense: 25; Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 10 Reserve/Injured 45 - Garrett Griffin 51 - Colton Jumper (FA 2019) 54 - Josh Martin (FA 2019) 63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019) 47 - Alex Anzalone 18 - Keith Kirkwood 55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244) Reserve/Non-Football Injury 54 - Chase Hansen (UDFA 2019) KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2019) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2019) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2019) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2019) Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP |
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11-18-2019, 11:49 AM | #796 |
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62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019)
With Andrus Peat out the next month + (6-8 weeks) or so this will be a great audition for Nick. He already has one solid performance against a stout Tampa Bay run D under his belt. |
11-18-2019, 02:41 PM | #797 |
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11-18-2019, 04:11 PM | #798 |
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18 - Keith Kirkwood
Never thought I'd say this but I'm looking forward to Keith's return. Surely he can make a play or two & keep a drive going catching the football. Tre Smith stats vs the Bucs ... 0 REC 0 YDS but he's a great blocker . |
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We've got that in 81 - Krishawn Hogan (FA 2019) - considering the holding calls on Jared Cook (yes, ticky-tack or naught, it was holding), he's a positive before catching a ball!!!
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