2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

K Major · 11-14-2019, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...48612124782594

That’s good to hear... There were times last season that he showed more promise than Tre’Quan.

Good.

Hopefully he can suit up/line up and produce starting next week. Austin Carr has brought absolutely nothing to the table. Nothing.

AsylumGuido · 11-14-2019, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Tre'quan Smith had 1 catch for 13 yards vs a so call bad ATL team. 1 catch from your third rounder.

Meanwhile his draft mate from Dallas Michael Gallup (on pace for 1k receiving) had 4 catches / 76 yards and a TD vs MINN.

Anyone still believe that we don't have a WR #2, #3 concern in New Orleans?

I will admit that you are correct. Atlanta knew that 1.) we had no one beyond Thomas who could successfully find an open spot, 2.) catch the ball consistently, and 3.) block successfully even a basic four man rush (for whatever reason). They completely took away our running game as an option knowing that our passing attack was limited even with minimal pressure. If we had a couple more reasonable threats at WR they would not have been able to sell out to stop the run. The Saints have always been their best under Payton when they were able to execute the pass to set up the run, not vise versa.

jeanpierre · 11-14-2019, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That’s good to hear... There were times last season that he showed more promise than Tre’Quan.

His injury is still a mystery to me; loved what the guy showed last camp, phenomenal hands, exceptional catch radius, adequate speed...

But this durability thing is a problem...

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AsylumGuido · 11-14-2019, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...48612124782594

His injury is still a mystery to me; loved what the guy showed last camp, phenomenal hands, exceptional catch radius, adequate speed...

But this durability thing is a problem...

Let's hope this is why we were more active in the WR trade market.

K Major · 11-14-2019, 10:01 AM

Can't Guard Mike is getting over 60% of the targets thus far. That is an incredible, mind boggling number to me.

What other team in the league has that type of disparity ??

Other guys must step up vs Tampa. I hope the emphasis all week was route running. IMO we'll never see the O line play that poorly in a game. We're better than that.

st thomas · 11-14-2019, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...48612124782594

That’s good to hear... There were times last season that he showed more promise than Tre’Quan.

Is he the step up guy, the missing link? Is he the reason we didn’t pull the trigger in trade.

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jeanpierre · 11-14-2019, 10:12 AM

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – Week 10: New Orleans Saints @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019), 27 - Dwayne Washington

FB (1) 42 - Zach Line *LP (Knee)

WR-X (1) 13 - Michael Thomas

WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan (FA 2019), 80 - Austin Carr

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead *DNP (Illness), 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat *OUT (Forearm Fx), 64 - Will Clapp

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019)

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook (FA 2019), 89 - Josh Hill, 85 - Dan Arnold (FA 2019)

WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith

DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 99 - Shy Tuttle (UDFA 2019)

DT3 (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019)

LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019)

MLB (1) 54 - Kiko Alonso (Trade MIA)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 58 - Stephone Anthony (FA 2019)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore *DNP (Hamstring), 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019)

NCB (3) 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105), 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson *LP (Hamstrung)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177)

SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 48 - J.T. Gray

LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA - 2019)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019)

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019)

RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019) *DNP (Hamstring)

Practice Squad

LG 68 - Derrick Kelly (UDFA 2019)

RG 65 - John Leglue (UDFA DEN 2019)

TE 86 - Jason Vander Laan (FA NE 2019)

WR 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019)

WR 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (UDFA 2019)

DE 70 - Mitchell Loewen (FA 2019)

NT 95 - Taylor Stallworth (FA 2019)

FS 32 - T. J. Green (FA 2019)

FS 36 - Trae Elston (FA 2019 NO/TB/CLE/BUF/PHI/BUF/MIA/PHI)

RS 44 - Taquan Mizzel (UDFA BAL/CHI 2017)

Active Roster Count - Total: 51; Offense: 24; Defense: 25; Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 10

Reserve/Injured

45 - Garrett Griffin

51 - Colton Jumper (FA 2019)

54 - Josh Martin (FA 2019)

63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019)

47 - Alex Anzalone

18 - Keith Kirkwood

55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244)

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

54 - Chase Hansen (UDFA 2019)

KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2019)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2019)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2019)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2019)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

blackangold · 11-14-2019, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I will admit that you are correct. Atlanta knew that 1.) we had no one beyond Thomas who could successfully find an open spot, 2.) catch the ball consistently, and 3.) block successfully even a basic four man rush (for whatever reason). They completely took away our running game as an option knowing that our passing attack was limited even with minimal pressure. If we had a couple more reasonable threats at WR they would not have been able to sell out to stop the run. The Saints have always been their best under Payton when they were able to execute the pass to set up the run, not vise versa.

They didn't sell out to stop the run, we never tried running the ball. We had 10 rushing attempts all game and averaged more than 4ypc... it was a coaching decision to not run the ball. I have heard the excuse that we were behind so it forced us to pass, but I discount that, we were within 1 score until the 4th QTR.

AsylumGuido · 11-14-2019, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

They didn't sell out to stop the run, we never tried running the ball. We had 10 rushing attempts all game and averaged more than 4ypc... it was a coaching decision to not run the ball. I have heard the excuse that we were behind so it forced us to pass, but I discount that, we were within 1 score until the 4th QTR.

Read this post:

http://blackandgold.com/saints/96007...tml#post867357

It will explain.

K Major · 11-14-2019, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

They didn't sell out to stop the run, we never tried running the ball. We had 10 rushing attempts all game and averaged more than 4ypc... it was a coaching decision to not run the ball. I have heard the excuse that we were behind so it forced us to pass, but I discount that, we were within 1 score until the 4th QTR.

Just to piggy back on this ....

Latavius has had 2 games against good defenses where he's had over 120 yards of total offense yet in the ATL game, he rarely touched the ball.

I'm not really sure what Coach was trying to prove here.

Passing the ball 40+ times when you don't have to was asking for a L.

11-14-2019, 08:55 AM	#771
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,624 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by ChrisXVI https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...48612124782594 That’s good to hear... There were times last season that he showed more promise than Tre’Quan. Good. Hopefully he can suit up/line up and produce starting next week. Austin Carr has brought absolutely nothing to the table. Nothing. st thomas likes this.

11-14-2019, 09:17 AM	#772
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major Tre'quan Smith had 1 catch for 13 yards vs a so call bad ATL team. 1 catch from your third rounder. Meanwhile his draft mate from Dallas Michael Gallup (on pace for 1k receiving) had 4 catches / 76 yards and a TD vs MINN. Anyone still believe that we don't have a WR #2, #3 concern in New Orleans? I will admit that you are correct. Atlanta knew that 1.) we had no one beyond Thomas who could successfully find an open spot, 2.) catch the ball consistently, and 3.) block successfully even a basic four man rush (for whatever reason). They completely took away our running game as an option knowing that our passing attack was limited even with minimal pressure. If we had a couple more reasonable threats at WR they would not have been able to sell out to stop the run. The Saints have always been their best under Payton when they were able to execute the pass to set up the run, not vise versa. jeanpierre likes this.
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11-14-2019, 09:34 AM	#773
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Twitter Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That’s good to hear... There were times last season that he showed more promise than Tre’Quan. His injury is still a mystery to me; loved what the guy showed last camp, phenomenal hands, exceptional catch radius, adequate speed... But this durability thing is a problem... AsylumGuido likes this.

11-14-2019, 09:39 AM	#774
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...48612124782594 His injury is still a mystery to me; loved what the guy showed last camp, phenomenal hands, exceptional catch radius, adequate speed... But this durability thing is a problem... Let's hope this is why we were more active in the WR trade market.

11-14-2019, 10:01 AM	#775
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,624 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Can't Guard Mike is getting over 60% of the targets thus far. That is an incredible, mind boggling number to me. What other team in the league has that type of disparity ?? Other guys must step up vs Tampa. I hope the emphasis all week was route running. IMO we'll never see the O line play that poorly in a game. We're better than that.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by ChrisXVI https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...48612124782594 That’s good to hear... There were times last season that he showed more promise than Tre’Quan. Is he the step up guy, the missing link? Is he the reason we didn’t pull the trigger in trade. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11-14-2019, 10:12 AM	#777
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – Week 10: New Orleans Saints @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers OFFENSE QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019), 27 - Dwayne Washington FB (1) *42 - Zach Line LP (Knee) WR-X (1) 13 - Michael Thomas WR-S (2) 81 - Krishawn Hogan (FA 2019), 80 - Austin Carr LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead DNP (Illness), 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019) LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat OUT (Forearm Fx), 64 - Will Clapp C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48)*, 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019)* RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019) RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk TE (3) *87 - Jared Cook (FA 2019), 89 - Josh Hill, 85 - Dan Arnold (FA 2019)* WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith DEFENSE RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019) NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 99 - Shy Tuttle (UDFA 2019) DT3 (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019) LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019) MLB (1) 54 - Kiko Alonso (Trade MIA) SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 58 - Stephone Anthony (FA 2019) RCB (2) *23 - Marshon Lattimore DNP (Hamstring)*, 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019)* NCB (3) 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105), 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), *21 - Patrick Robinson LP (Hamstrung) FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177) SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 48 - J.T. Gray LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 29 - Johnson Bademosi (FA - 2019) KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019) P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019) RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019) DNP (Hamstring)* Practice Squad LG 68 - Derrick Kelly (UDFA 2019) RG 65 - John Leglue (UDFA DEN 2019) TE 86 - Jason Vander Laan (FA NE 2019) WR 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019) WR 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (UDFA 2019) DE 70 - Mitchell Loewen (FA 2019) NT 95 - Taylor Stallworth (FA 2019) FS 32 - T. J. Green (FA 2019) FS 36 - Trae Elston (FA 2019 NO/TB/CLE/BUF/PHI/BUF/MIA/PHI) RS 44 - Taquan Mizzel (UDFA BAL/CHI 2017) Active Roster Count - Total: 51; Offense: 24; Defense: 25; Kicking: 4; Practice Squad: 10 Reserve/Injured 45 - Garrett Griffin *51 - Colton Jumper (FA 2019)* *54 - Josh Martin (FA 2019)* *63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019)* 47 - Alex Anzalone 18 - Keith Kirkwood 55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244) Reserve/Non-Football Injury 54 - Chase Hansen (UDFA 2019) KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2019) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2019) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2019) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2019) Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP
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11-14-2019, 10:26 AM	#778
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I will admit that you are correct. Atlanta knew that 1.) we had no one beyond Thomas who could successfully find an open spot, 2.) catch the ball consistently, and 3.) block successfully even a basic four man rush (for whatever reason). They completely took away our running game as an option knowing that our passing attack was limited even with minimal pressure. If we had a couple more reasonable threats at WR they would not have been able to sell out to stop the run. The Saints have always been their best under Payton when they were able to execute the pass to set up the run, not vise versa. They didn't sell out to stop the run, we never tried running the ball. We had 10 rushing attempts all game and averaged more than 4ypc... it was a coaching decision to not run the ball. I have heard the excuse that we were behind so it forced us to pass, but I discount that, we were within 1 score until the 4th QTR.

11-14-2019, 10:29 AM	#779
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by blackangold They didn't sell out to stop the run, we never tried running the ball. We had 10 rushing attempts all game and averaged more than 4ypc... it was a coaching decision to not run the ball. I have heard the excuse that we were behind so it forced us to pass, but I discount that, we were within 1 score until the 4th QTR. Read this post: http://blackandgold.com/saints/96007...tml#post867357 It will explain. blackangold likes this.

11-14-2019, 10:31 AM	#780
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,624 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by blackangold They didn't sell out to stop the run, we never tried running the ball. We had 10 rushing attempts all game and averaged more than 4ypc... it was a coaching decision to not run the ball. I have heard the excuse that we were behind so it forced us to pass, but I discount that, we were within 1 score until the 4th QTR. Just to piggy back on this .... Latavius has had 2 games against good defenses where he's had over 120 yards of total offense yet in the ATL game, he rarely touched the ball. I'm not really sure what Coach was trying to prove here. Passing the ball 40+ times when you don't have to was asking for a L.

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