What Will Make Or Break Murray

Beastmode · 08-06-2019, 08:01 AM

I've watched all his games the last few years. If we use him like we did Ingram early in his career or AD it will fail. He will get stuffed for 2-3 yards most of the time if not blown up at the line just like they did.

It wasn't until Ingram got involved in passing he started having success but that took a while to develop.

Utah_Saint · 08-06-2019, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I've watched all his games the last few years. If we use him like we did Ingram early in his career or AD it will fail. He will get stuffed for 2-3 yards most of the time if not blown up at the line just like they did.

It wasn't until Ingram got involved in passing he started having success but that took a while to develop.

Ingram career catch percentage - 79.7%
Murray career catch percentage - 79.0%

Ingram career yards/target - 5.58
Murray career yards/target - 5.45

Ingram career yards/reception - 7.0
Murray career yards/reception - 6.9

You'd be hard pressed to find two running backs with closer receiving stats.

Beastmode · 08-07-2019, 04:25 AM

The stats though are from different sample sizes and different routes.

Murray career catches: 128
Ingram career catches: 228

As for routes, just looking at highlights, Murray has almost no screens. It's mostly Carlos Hyde style dump offs. With Ingram lots of screens with bigger gains.

If Murray can have some success with screens he's going to have probably one of his best outliner years and really screw up defenses. If not, he can still do ok with GL runs but there will be a drop in production. I could see a 3 back rotation develop like with AD, Kamara and Ingram.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: What Will Make Or Break Murray I've watched all his games the last few years. If we use him like we did Ingram early in his career or AD it will fail. He will get stuffed for 2-3 yards most of the time if not blown up at the line just like they did. It wasn't until Ingram got involved in passing he started having success but that took a while to develop. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: What Will Make Or Break Murray Originally Posted by Beastmode I've watched all his games the last few years. If we use him like we did Ingram early in his career or AD it will fail. He will get stuffed for 2-3 yards most of the time if not blown up at the line just like they did. It wasn't until Ingram got involved in passing he started having success but that took a while to develop. Ingram career catch percentage - 79.7% Murray career catch percentage - 79.0% Ingram career yards/target - 5.58 Murray career yards/target - 5.45 Ingram career yards/reception - 7.0 Murray career yards/reception - 6.9 You'd be hard pressed to find two running backs with closer receiving stats. SmashMouth, K Major and SaintGnome like this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: What Will Make Or Break Murray The stats though are from different sample sizes and different routes. Murray career catches: 128 Ingram career catches: 228 As for routes, just looking at highlights, Murray has almost no screens. It's mostly Carlos Hyde style dump offs. With Ingram lots of screens with bigger gains. If Murray can have some success with screens he's going to have probably one of his best outliner years and really screw up defenses. If not, he can still do ok with GL runs but there will be a drop in production. I could see a 3 back rotation develop like with AD, Kamara and Ingram.
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