Antonio Brown...should we?

hitta · 09-07-2019, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Man hell naw.

This team has no time to be playing games with a malcontent.

It's too hard trying to win games without distractions as it is.

They were already playing games though when they said they were completely behind him throughout a big portion of the offseason. You can't just suddenly change your stance. I think Brown was being a baby over the helmet. The Raiders chose to let him be a baby. You don't just suddenly grow a spine.

vpheughan · 09-07-2019, 01:04 PM

Imagine that? Consequences for your actions? Doesn't Mayock realize he's dealing with an NFL PLAYER. Every other player on the team should just take a day off when they want to. That's how you build a "TEAM"

neugey · 09-07-2019, 01:09 PM

Would it be allowed to make a lobotomy part of AB's physical?

rezburna · 09-07-2019, 01:10 PM

Yep.

hitta · 09-07-2019, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Imagine that? Consequences for your actions? Doesn't Mayock realize he's dealing with an NFL PLAYER. Every other player on the team should just take a day off when they want to. That's how you build a "TEAM"

There should be consequences for what he did. They should have threatened fines weeks ago, unless he was injured. This may have even gotten AB on the field a lot earlier. Instead they balked at this. Then a week before the game Mayock tried to reassert authority. This is not his job, this is Gruden's job. Hell, this literally happened on the practice field, during practice. If Gruden was fine with whatever was occurring, Mayock should have stayed out of it. He's not the coach. I can almost guarantee you Gruden had a plan for how to treat Brown. What do you think would happen if Loomis came onto the practice field and started policing players behaviors during practice. Payton would be pissed. The practice field is not the GMs domain.

dizzle88 · 09-07-2019, 01:24 PM

Kind of Ironic that Mayocks last job was to evaluate talent and their biggest signing in his first offseason practices a few times and then near enough rips their team apart.

foreverfan · 09-07-2019, 01:27 PM

Antonio Brown destroys the Golden State.

vpheughan · 09-07-2019, 01:31 PM

According to Josiana Anderson of ESPN, Brown, who was upset with the fine given to him by the team, saw Mayock during practice and walked over to him to discuss the issue.

According to a team source, Mayock was trying to keep his cool and diffuse the situation from escalating any more.

The GM being on the field is "policing?" Brown confronted Mayock over the "Fine Letter"

TheOak · 09-07-2019, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

There should be consequences for what he did. They should have threatened fines weeks ago, unless he was injured. This may have even gotten AB on the field a lot earlier. Instead they balked at this. Then a week before the game Mayock tried to reassert authority. This is not his job, this is Gruden's job. Hell, this literally happened on the practice field, during practice. If Gruden was fine with whatever was occurring, Mayock should have stayed out of it. He's not the coach. I can almost guarantee you Gruden had a plan for how to treat Brown. What do you think would happen if Loomis came onto the practice field and started policing players behaviors during practice. Payton would be pissed. The practice field is not the GMs domain.

These things are so difficult to understand much less sort out. The only thing we truly know is that we have been told things by the media or people in front of microphones. The surface on all sides is a facade.

If you and I have a beef with our employer its us, a manager, maybe HR... A beef with your employer in the NFL is a player, agent, NFLPA, Owner, GM, coach, the League... Some things are said in public, some things are said because the person is in public, and some things are behind closed doors.

To pick a side in this is really a fools errand, no?

All we really know is that a player found himself sideways with the league over a helmet and that's not a smart move. Just a soon not deal with someone that wins that sort of stupid prize.

Barry from MS · 09-07-2019, 01:58 PM

AB had problems with management in Pittsburg...not his fault.

AB had problems with management in Oakland...not his fault.

We should bring him in cause clearly these issues with management are not AB's fault.

09-07-2019, 12:55 PM	#11
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,324	Re: Antonio Brown...should we? Originally Posted by K Major Man hell naw. This team has no time to be playing games with a malcontent. It's too hard trying to win games without distractions as it is. They were already playing games though when they said they were completely behind him throughout a big portion of the offseason. You can't just suddenly change your stance. I think Brown was being a baby over the helmet. The Raiders chose to let him be a baby. You don't just suddenly grow a spine. RailBoss likes this.
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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,525	Re: Antonio Brown...should we? Imagine that? Consequences for your actions? Doesn't Mayock realize he's dealing with an NFL PLAYER. Every other player on the team should just take a day off when they want to. That's how you build a "TEAM" subguy likes this.
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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Antonio Brown...should we? Would it be allowed to make a lobotomy part of AB's physical? Crusader and foreverfan like this.

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hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,324	Re: Antonio Brown...should we? Originally Posted by vpheughan Imagine that? Consequences for your actions? Doesn't Mayock realize he's dealing with an NFL PLAYER. Every other player on the team should just take a day off when they want to. That's how you build a "TEAM" There should be consequences for what he did. They should have threatened fines weeks ago, unless he was injured. This may have even gotten AB on the field a lot earlier. Instead they balked at this. Then a week before the game Mayock tried to reassert authority. This is not his job, this is Gruden's job. Hell, this literally happened on the practice field, during practice. If Gruden was fine with whatever was occurring, Mayock should have stayed out of it. He's not the coach. I can almost guarantee you Gruden had a plan for how to treat Brown. What do you think would happen if Loomis came onto the practice field and started policing players behaviors during practice. Payton would be pissed. The practice field is not the GMs domain.
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Antonio Brown...should we? Originally Posted by hitta There should be consequences for what he did. They should have threatened fines weeks ago, unless he was injured. This may have even gotten AB on the field a lot earlier. Instead they balked at this. Then a week before the game Mayock tried to reassert authority. This is not his job, this is Gruden's job. Hell, this literally happened on the practice field, during practice. If Gruden was fine with whatever was occurring, Mayock should have stayed out of it. He's not the coach. I can almost guarantee you Gruden had a plan for how to treat Brown. What do you think would happen if Loomis came onto the practice field and started policing players behaviors during practice. Payton would be pissed. The practice field is not the GMs domain. These things are so difficult to understand much less sort out. The only thing we truly know is that we have been told things by the media or people in front of microphones. The surface on all sides is a facade. If you and I have a beef with our employer its us, a manager, maybe HR... A beef with your employer in the NFL is a player, agent, NFLPA, Owner, GM, coach, the League... Some things are said in public, some things are said because the person is in public, and some things are behind closed doors. To pick a side in this is really a fools errand, no? All we really know is that a player found himself sideways with the league over a helmet and that's not a smart move. Just a soon not deal with someone that wins that sort of stupid prize.
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