Minkah Fitzpatrick

ChrisXVI · 09-14-2019, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

That’s a problem with today’s NFL. These rookie players all feel like they are entitled to playing for a contender. Nobody wants to sit on a team for 2-3 years while a team rebuilds. I don’t like the thought of what it would be like if players start deciding when and where they are going to play.
If players had this same attitude in 06 we wouldn’t be where we are.
Millennials suck and are *****s

But it’s the Dolphins organization choosing to trade away assets.

dizzle88 · 09-14-2019, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

But it’s the Dolphins organization choosing to trade away assets.

It's more that "multiple players have requested trades" though.

Imagine if 2007 and 2008 rolled around where we dont meet expectations and players like Colston, Bush, Jahri Evan's started requesting trades.

I'd say pass, the fact that Fitzpatrick has requested a trade so early means he will give up at the first sign of adversity. That's what it looks like to me anyway.

jeanpierre · 09-14-2019, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

That’s a problem with today’s NFL. These rookie players all feel like they are entitled to playing for a contender. Nobody wants to sit on a team for 2-3 years while a team rebuilds. I don’t like the thought of what it would be like if players start deciding when and where they are going to play.
If players had this same attitude in 06 we wouldn’t be where we are.
Millennials suck and are *****s

Guess you don't follow the NBA much?!? Ever heard of The Decision...?

The Dude · 09-14-2019, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Guess you don't follow the NBA much?!? Ever heard of The Decision...?

My point exactly. I don’t want players pissing and moaning because they wanna play with Labron. Then you have Lebron demanding they bring in the players HE wants. I don’t follow the NBA at all and have no intention to.

The Dude · 09-14-2019, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by subguy

Questioning how the coach is utilizing you can never end in anything good.

Kind of did for Akeem Hicks.

rezburna · 09-14-2019, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

That’s a problem with today’s NFL. These rookie players all feel like they are entitled to playing for a contender. Nobody wants to sit on a team for 2-3 years while a team rebuilds. I don’t like the thought of what it would be like if players start deciding when and where they are going to play.
If players had this same attitude in 06 we wouldn’t be where we are.
Millennials suck and are *****s

Why would you be against people deciding where they want to live and work?

jeanpierre · 09-14-2019, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Why would you be against people deciding where they want to live and work?

Rez, you make a valid point about that that we forget their human too; but fans, however meager it is to billionaire owners and millionaire athletes, do invest their time and little money in teams and players, too.

As irrational as it is, the hurt is real when your team is spurned, your values disrespected by a player(s). Yes, they're people too, often young, self-absorbed, enabled, and flawed...

But you don't get a complete pass as an athlete when you're willing to take the money and the spotlight for fame, they too have to make sacrifices to their loyal customer base...

How many here wouldn't change a spare tire and offer a meal inside their home for one of our Saints here? Hell, look at how many folks go out to MSY and welcome the team back - after a big loss!!!

Well, if you want the public adoration, fame, as well as the coin those people give to make those contracts possible - players too need to to sacrifice, respect those good folks who support their NFL Life...

jeanpierre · 09-14-2019, 03:20 PM

Back on subject, if Miami were to accept a third and a player, for example Vonn Bell on a sign and trade, then working Over The Cap's figures, we could take on Minkah's first round contract...

Play Minkah how Bell's used, let Gardner push P.J. for the nickel, let Marcus play out his rookie deal at FS until, maybe Saquan could take over; extend Lattimore in another year - secondary would be pretty solid...

All you'd need is an outside corner at Apple's spot should he find a better deal elsewhere, use your No. 1 pick there...

rezburna · 09-14-2019, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Rez, you make a valid point about that that we forget their human too; but fans, however meager it is to billionaire owners and millionaire athletes, do invest their time and little money in teams and players, too.

As irrational as it is, the hurt is real when your team is spurned, your values disrespected by a player(s). Yes, they're people too, often young, self-absorbed, enabled, and flawed...

But you don't get a complete pass as an athlete when you're willing to take the money and the spotlight for fame, they too have to make sacrifices to their loyal customer base...

How many here wouldn't change a spare tire and offer a meal inside their home for one of our Saints here? Hell, look at how many folks go out to MSY and welcome the team back - after a big loss!!!

Well, if you want the public adoration, fame, as well as the coin those people give to make those contracts possible - players too need to to sacrifice, respect those good folks who support their NFL Life...

As a fan I definitely understand the hurt when a player wants to leave. Anthony Davis and Chris Paul broke my heart with New Orleans. As a person I understand. I just moved to Kenner in July for more opportunity for upward mobility that Mississippi just couldn’t (or wouldn’t) provide me. I don’t want to go down with a sinking ship. That ship in Miami is on fire and I hope Flores can put it out.

foreverfan · 09-14-2019, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Pass.

Err... what part of NO did you people not understand...

09-14-2019, 11:37 AM	#21
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Minkah Fitzpatrick Originally Posted by The Dude That’s a problem with today’s NFL. These rookie players all feel like they are entitled to playing for a contender. Nobody wants to sit on a team for 2-3 years while a team rebuilds. I don’t like the thought of what it would be like if players start deciding when and where they are going to play. If players had this same attitude in 06 we wouldn’t be where we are. Millennials suck and are *****s But it’s the Dolphins organization choosing to trade away assets. CHA_CHING likes this.

09-14-2019, 12:03 PM	#22
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Minkah Fitzpatrick Originally Posted by ChrisXVI But it’s the Dolphins organization choosing to trade away assets. It's more that "multiple players have requested trades" though. Imagine if 2007 and 2008 rolled around where we dont meet expectations and players like Colston, Bush, Jahri Evan's started requesting trades. I'd say pass, the fact that Fitzpatrick has requested a trade so early means he will give up at the first sign of adversity. That's what it looks like to me anyway. Rsanders24 and SmashMouth like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Minkah Fitzpatrick Originally Posted by The Dude That’s a problem with today’s NFL. These rookie players all feel like they are entitled to playing for a contender. Nobody wants to sit on a team for 2-3 years while a team rebuilds. I don’t like the thought of what it would be like if players start deciding when and where they are going to play. If players had this same attitude in 06 we wouldn’t be where we are. Millennials suck and are ***s Guess you don't follow the NBA much?!? Ever heard of The Decision...?** Rsanders24 and SmashMouth like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Minkah Fitzpatrick Originally Posted by jeanpierre *Guess you don't follow the NBA much?!? Ever heard of The Decision...?* My point exactly. I don’t want players pissing and moaning because they wanna play with Labron. Then you have Lebron demanding they bring in the players HE wants. I don’t follow the NBA at all and have no intention to.
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Minkah Fitzpatrick Originally Posted by The Dude That’s a problem with today’s NFL. These rookie players all feel like they are entitled to playing for a contender. Nobody wants to sit on a team for 2-3 years while a team rebuilds. I don’t like the thought of what it would be like if players start deciding when and where they are going to play. If players had this same attitude in 06 we wouldn’t be where we are. Millennials suck and are *****s Why would you be against people deciding where they want to live and work? Rell&Gold and K Major like this.

09-14-2019, 03:14 PM	#27
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Minkah Fitzpatrick Originally Posted by rezburna Why would you be against people deciding where they want to live and work? Rez, you make a valid point about that that we forget their human too; but fans, however meager it is to billionaire owners and millionaire athletes, do invest their time and little money in teams and players, too. As irrational as it is, the hurt is real when your team is spurned, your values disrespected by a player(s). Yes, they're people too, often young, self-absorbed, enabled, and flawed... But you don't get a complete pass as an athlete when you're willing to take the money and the spotlight for fame, they too have to make sacrifices to their loyal customer base... How many here wouldn't change a spare tire and offer a meal inside their home for one of our Saints here? Hell, look at how many folks go out to MSY and welcome the team back - after a big loss!!! Well, if you want the public adoration, fame, as well as the coin those people give to make those contracts possible - players too need to to sacrifice, respect those good folks who support their NFL Life... Crusader and rezburna like this.
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09-14-2019, 03:20 PM	#28
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Minkah Fitzpatrick Back on subject, if Miami were to accept a third and a player, for example Vonn Bell on a sign and trade, then working Over The Cap's figures, we could take on Minkah's first round contract... Play Minkah how Bell's used, let Gardner push P.J. for the nickel, let Marcus play out his rookie deal at FS until, maybe Saquan could take over; extend Lattimore in another year - secondary would be pretty solid... All you'd need is an outside corner at Apple's spot should he find a better deal elsewhere, use your No. 1 pick there... Crusader, Rugby Saint II, K Major and 1 others like this.
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09-14-2019, 03:24 PM	#29
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Minkah Fitzpatrick Originally Posted by jeanpierre Rez, you make a valid point about that that we forget their human too; but fans, however meager it is to billionaire owners and millionaire athletes, do invest their time and little money in teams and players, too. As irrational as it is, the hurt is real when your team is spurned, your values disrespected by a player(s). Yes, they're people too, often young, self-absorbed, enabled, and flawed... But you don't get a complete pass as an athlete when you're willing to take the money and the spotlight for fame, they too have to make sacrifices to their loyal customer base... How many here wouldn't change a spare tire and offer a meal inside their home for one of our Saints here? Hell, look at how many folks go out to MSY and welcome the team back - after a big loss!!! Well, if you want the public adoration, fame, as well as the coin those people give to make those contracts possible - players too need to to sacrifice, respect those good folks who support their NFL Life... As a fan I definitely understand the hurt when a player wants to leave. Anthony Davis and Chris Paul broke my heart with New Orleans. As a person I understand. I just moved to Kenner in July for more opportunity for upward mobility that Mississippi just couldn’t (or wouldn’t) provide me. I don’t want to go down with a sinking ship. That ship in Miami is on fire and I hope Flores can put it out. Crusader, jeanpierre and K Major like this.

09-14-2019, 08:36 PM	#30
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Minkah Fitzpatrick Originally Posted by Crusader Pass. Err... what part of NO did you people not understand...