Teddy Bridgewater or Taysom Hill?

dizzle88 · 09-16-2019, 09:11 AM

Taysom - he provides a spark and the offense feeds off his energy.

I hated bridgewaters demeanor, he looked defeated and constantly throwing off his back foot.

jeanpierre · 09-16-2019, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Taysom - he provides a spark and the offense feeds off his energy.

I hated bridgewaters demeanor, he looked defeated and constantly throwing off his back foot.

That right there. That's what bothered me most about Bridgewater's performance. Right behind that was his reluctance to pull the ball down and take off when he had as much as a 20yd cushion...

He could have easily scampered to first downs on the sideline.

On one third down, he done it already before when I mentioned it to my krewe, they finally came around and said he definitely hesitated and now defenses know it and will scheme accordingly...

Bridgewater is still playing fearful of injury. I can empathize with him, but you can't play scared and be successful in the NFL, Not for Long...

brees84 · 09-16-2019, 09:46 AM

There are way too many holes in Teddy's game for him to be considered legit NFL starter. No pocket presence whatsoever, slow reads, doesn't throw with anticipation, throwing mechanics, awful body language. This guy lacks natural leadership. Last night it was obvious that saints players don't believe in this guy. Focus on some stars on Saints offense last night. Completely different behavior on the field from what we are used to. After some catches Michael Thomas was like Colston 2.0 which is definitely not him. No emotion, no flexing muscles...

Hill is exact opposite. Hill is not great passer but he is quick decision maker, going through his reads much faster than Teddy, smart player, great runner and most importantly he brings that spark in our offense. Dude is a natural born leader. He will make some mistakes on the filed but I'd rather watch that than anemic offense with mister checkdown under center.

In the NFL starters get hurt and their backups more often than not make some very nice plays on the field. Just look at that Minshew guy from Jacksonville. And he is not paid 7+ millions...

brees84 · 09-16-2019, 09:53 AM

This reminds me of McCown vs Panthers. Drew gets hurt, McCown plays next week against at the time great Panthers defense. Almost wins the game. Seahawks are not that great on defense but solid test nonetheless.

SaintsBro · 09-16-2019, 10:54 AM

Rather amazingly, the defense held on, and kept us hanging by a fingernail in that game, until a certain point early in the 4th when the defense's back was finally broken, and they just couldn't keep up any longer. But even at a score of 20-9, if somewhere during that early window of time, if ANYWHERE in the first 3 quarters, if Teddy had shown up and made 3, 4, maybe 5 decent or clutch plays, that game could have had a much different tone and it could have been close right up to the very end.

For all the griping about the Saints defense (and there is much to gripe about) they STILL kept the Saints in the game, for most of the game, against a team that was in the Super Bowl last year. But Teddy running with the offensive 1's, produced almost nothing noteworthy to write home about. That was very dispiriting and disheartening to watch.

Cruize · 09-16-2019, 11:04 AM

I voted for Hill. Look for Thomas. Look for Kamara. Look for Cook. Run Taysom Run! I truly believe he's absolutely ready. But, it won't happen. Bridgewater will start. I understand it. He can win. I fear he has to be perfect to do so though. Tough ask. Hill on the other hand brings an x factor. An athletic QB is almost impossible to defense. And he's just a tough, positive cat that I feel the team would rally around.

Rugby Saint II · 09-16-2019, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by brees84

There are way too many holes in Teddy's game for him to be considered legit NFL starter. No pocket presence whatsoever, slow reads, doesn't throw with anticipation, throwing mechanics, awful body language. This guy lacks natural leadership. Last night it was obvious that saints players don't believe in this guy. Focus on some stars on Saints offense last night. Completely different behavior on the field from what we are used to. After some catches Michael Thomas was like Colston 2.0 which is definitely not him. No emotion, no flexing muscles...

Hill is exact opposite. Hill is not great passer but he is quick decision maker, going through his reads much faster than Teddy, smart player, great runner and most importantly he brings that spark in our offense. Dude is a natural born leader. He will make some mistakes on the filed but I'd rather watch that than anemic offense with mister checkdown under center.

In the NFL starters get hurt and their backups more often than not make some very nice plays on the field. Just look at that Minshew guy from Jacksonville. And he is not paid 7+ millions...

I could not have said it better. You nailed it!

papz · 09-16-2019, 11:25 AM

Bridgewater but I'd like to see Taysom get a couple of full series in so we can evaluate him further.

On sheer will and intangibles, I do feel Taysom could Tebow us into a couple of wins if given the chance.

leilung · 09-16-2019, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

This is the most logical answer. Teddy sure looks like he lacks pocket presence.

True. But how does a QB get that presence working with the 2's in practice. He really can't. From what I saw, TB was hesistant in throwing the routes so he held onto the ball far longer than he should have.

I believe that if anyone can get him up to speed with running the offense, SP can. But I give him 3 games to show me someething before Taysom Time...

K Major · 09-16-2019, 12:01 PM

Due to the Brees injury, the "Swiss Army knife" role has been put on ice for Taysom. Simply can't risk it if something happens to TB. I saw Hill lined up as a WR on a couple of series yesterday.

I think the coaches plan will be to start TB against the Seahawks but if he has another bad performance, Hill may get his chance vs the Cowboys in the dome.

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09-16-2019, 09:11 AM	#21
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Teddy Bridgewater or Taysom Hill? Taysom - he provides a spark and the offense feeds off his energy. I hated bridgewaters demeanor, he looked defeated and constantly throwing off his back foot. xan, foreverfan, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Teddy Bridgewater or Taysom Hill? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Taysom - he provides a spark and the offense feeds off his energy. I hated bridgewaters demeanor, he looked defeated and constantly throwing off his back foot. That right there. That's what bothered me most about Bridgewater's performance. Right behind that was his reluctance to pull the ball down and take off when he had as much as a 20yd cushion... He could have easily scampered to first downs on the sideline. On one third down, he done it already before when I mentioned it to my krewe, they finally came around and said he definitely hesitated and now defenses know it and will scheme accordingly... Bridgewater is still playing fearful of injury. I can empathize with him, but you can't play scared and be successful in the NFL, Not for Long... Thirty3 likes this.
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brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Teddy Bridgewater or Taysom Hill? There are way too many holes in Teddy's game for him to be considered legit NFL starter. No pocket presence whatsoever, slow reads, doesn't throw with anticipation, throwing mechanics, awful body language. This guy lacks natural leadership. Last night it was obvious that saints players don't believe in this guy. Focus on some stars on Saints offense last night. Completely different behavior on the field from what we are used to. After some catches Michael Thomas was like Colston 2.0 which is definitely not him. No emotion, no flexing muscles... Hill is exact opposite. Hill is not great passer but he is quick decision maker, going through his reads much faster than Teddy, smart player, great runner and most importantly he brings that spark in our offense. Dude is a natural born leader. He will make some mistakes on the filed but I'd rather watch that than anemic offense with mister checkdown under center. In the NFL starters get hurt and their backups more often than not make some very nice plays on the field. Just look at that Minshew guy from Jacksonville. And he is not paid 7+ millions... foreverfan and Rugby Saint II like this.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Teddy Bridgewater or Taysom Hill? Originally Posted by brees84 There are way too many holes in Teddy's game for him to be considered legit NFL starter. No pocket presence whatsoever, slow reads, doesn't throw with anticipation, throwing mechanics, awful body language. This guy lacks natural leadership. Last night it was obvious that saints players don't believe in this guy. Focus on some stars on Saints offense last night. Completely different behavior on the field from what we are used to. After some catches Michael Thomas was like Colston 2.0 which is definitely not him. No emotion, no flexing muscles... Hill is exact opposite. Hill is not great passer but he is quick decision maker, going through his reads much faster than Teddy, smart player, great runner and most importantly he brings that spark in our offense. Dude is a natural born leader. He will make some mistakes on the filed but I'd rather watch that than anemic offense with mister checkdown under center. In the NFL starters get hurt and their backups more often than not make some very nice plays on the field. Just look at that Minshew guy from Jacksonville. And he is not paid 7+ millions... I could not have said it better. You nailed it! foreverfan likes this.

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,369	Re: Teddy Bridgewater or Taysom Hill? Originally Posted by SmashMouth This is the most logical answer. Teddy sure looks like he lacks pocket presence. True. But how does a QB get that presence working with the 2's in practice. He really can't. From what I saw, TB was hesistant in throwing the routes so he held onto the ball far longer than he should have. I believe that if anyone can get him up to speed with running the offense, SP can. But I give him 3 games to show me someething before Taysom Time...

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